let's do what john judas said to liberals in "the new republic." he said -- if obama care doesn't work as promised, the fail your will have reinforced for a generation the argument against any government initiatives. does it worry you that this roll-out, other an obama care is clunky, will really make people question the role of government? >> s.e., i don't lay awake at nights worries about political philosophy and theory. i'm here in washington, as john is, to help people. i'd i make no bones about it. there are a lot of kinks in the law. >> to help people, i assume you want democrats elected. to get democrats elected, people have to have faith that they'll be honest and confident and government will solve their problems. those are the promise that's democrats make. so this doesn't worry you at all watching government in action? >> i think you've got your finger right on it. if the president's numbers are low, it is a credibility problem. right from if you like your policy, you can keep it. now he is working to make that promise come true and you