>> what are you hearing from your governor, john kasich, who i remember as being a fairly conservative republican in the house, although that was a different era in the house, i suppose. >> yeah. some good news in ohio is it looks like in spite of the legislature that we're going to see medicaid expansion. there's discussion about an announcement today. it's not final but it looks good in that direction. it's $3 million in the state, it means hundreds of thousands of people are going to get health insurance that wouldn't have otherwise. >> he's joined the rhino caucus, as it were? >> perhaps. it's not my party. >> right. >> johnny has to answer for them. >> do you think, last question for you, is a big deal going to be done or is this going to end with a small deal and hopes for a big deal? >> somewhere in between. i think we'll get a deal done. i think we'll get the government back open. i think we'll get the debt ceiling lifted for a period of time, which i hope is certainly longer than six weeks and goes into next year so we can sit down and do some tough negotiating on debt, defici

the other thing here, john kasich is shining the light on.o the irritation of fellow republicans is that obama care work. i mean not the website. but hon drepdz undreds of thous americans have gotten health care through expansion of medicaid which is significant. one of the biggest parts of obama care. here is something again. how are they going to repeal this? republicans are going to come in. say okay, $275 americans in ohio. and the hundreds of thousand. don't know if we are up to millions yet. throughout the country. we are going to repeal that and take that away from you. and throw you back out there without any insurance. again. once again parts of obama care are working as promised. not the news you get these days for good reason. but john kasich is making the case publicly, the medicaid expansion is a good deal for ohio. which means a good deal for the states who haven't taken it. >>> thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure. >> the senate held a hearing on stand your ground and heard the dramatic testimony of a mother who believes fl

in ohio there are pockets of poverty and misery that john kasich that used to be a doctrineaire republican, it has put him in the traditional mainstream of ohio republicans who if anything are among the most practical. there's a reason why so many republicans were elected to the presidency from ohio. they understand the gritty reality of that state. kasich does. >> you know, also, what's really interesting -- >> i want you to answer a question though. when they say we the american people, who are he this talking about? are they only talking about people of a certain evangelical background? of a certain region? who are they talking about when they confidently say we the american people as if they don't mean blacks from the big cities. they don't mean people of other religions besides christianity, who are they talking about? let's nail it? >> they mean people they see at meetings? how do they get to be we americans? >> they're free to say whatever delusional thing they want to say. but you know, talking about practical politics here, what i was going to say, too, they both live, not just in

what john kasich is him and he is a guy who governs. you go back in time, you only had one balanced budget in recent memory, and that was a result of the balanced budget act of 1997 that john kasich, newt gingrich, bill clinton crafted together that let us pay our bills and actually pay down the deficit for a period of time, did not reduce it to 0 -- kate down the debt. -- paid down the debt. that could not happen today. john kasich is very much a conservative but he also says -- and he is a realist and he is a federal -- fellow who wants to govern -- saying, look, we have uninsured people in ohio, we have billions that will be made available to the state of ohio to cover our uninsured. why did we do that? the reaction on the other side -- if it was a decent argument on the other side, i would sort of perk up and listen. the argument is -- it is a bumper sticker, a sound bite. that is obamacare. as if anything related to obamacare is poison. if you go near it, you are going to die. that is a bad view. so, i give john kasich, the governo

>> i'm thinking john kasich. >> really?> i like john kasich. >> i do too. >> this debate is not unhealthy. there is this shift in the country. >> here's another moderate republican, the former republican governor of pennsylvania addressed the log cabin republicans last night. he had a stark warning for his party. for many observers, the gop has become intolerant, judgmental, and self-righteous. perhaps worthy of the pilgrims in 1620. but hardly attractive qualities for hundreds of years later. is the democratic party lucky, fortunate in having as its opposite a party which is basically out-moded in terms of social issues? >> i think out-moded in social issues makes them lucky. but we're talking about the economic movement. >> the 47% thing. >> yeah. the 47% and the idea of job creators. >> look at mitt romney. that guy's face said i made money. and you'll never make as much. >> mitt romney was the richest candidate we've ever put forward in history. and rich people are actually very unpopular. so it was not good. >> that wa

ohio's republican governor, john kasich today steamed past the hard right legislature to get more people covered, even if it costs him the support of some in his own party. ohio's decision leaves half the states in the country, all of them red states, controlled by republicans who are refusing to expand medicaid to cover more people. but these two billionaires are trying to hold that line. do they get their way in the half of the country that is still up for grabs? can they push their agenda, state capital by state capital, when the rest of the country is either struggling to make this thing work or just too fixated on d.c. to notice much of what they're doing? joining is dr. zeke emanuel, former white house adviser on health care policy, former chair -- chair of health ethics and policy at the university of pennsylvania. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me again. >> why is it important from your perspective that states do expand medicaid to cover more people? >> so, there is the health reason, which is this is the poorest people in the country that are being excluded. they're

and evidently rick perry does and john kasich doesn't.ly would support whoever the democrat is going to run against him. you know, when -- when people do the right thing, that's to commended. >> okay. they did the right thing. they did have a little nudging from the people who recognized that not having health care would be unacceptable. >> karen, you are absolutely right. they did. pary didn't give a damn what the people in texas said. they have 25% uninsured -- he can brag about his economy and all these ads all over of the country. this is a developing country in terms of social services. >> this is an important point. democrats didn't support that law. but when it became law, they helped to implement it. they said, look, we didn't like it. but they help d implement it as opposed to continuing to sabotage it at every point along the way. the law is getting more popular. more people that sign up the more popular lit get. i understand. republicans realize they are -- up a creek if then don't destroy it now. come on. >> governor dean, to

john kasich when you interviewed him this morning said something very interesting.id ohioans are not going to pay for the insurance in other states. we pay money for our federal taxes, we're going to get that back. you look at states like texas and texas is going to have all those texans paying for the insurance in california or in michigan? i don't think so. it's a great 2014 issue for both congress and for democrats running for governor. >> that's not the case. texas is not expanding their medicaid rolls. they're not giving them away because they're not expanding the rolls which is care cost for them, and you know the obama care only pays the bills for a short period of time. 90% but they don't pay the whole thing. again, you're asking people to expand the role of government, and in texas, they don't want to do that. they want to have private sectose sectors -- >> so they'll give those away. the texans pay those taxes. >> those tax dollars are not paying for obama care. >> let's not just talk about the expansion of medicaid, though. i think it's very easy to lose

cony, john kasich is trying to talk about how to bring back america when he was a loser. >> yes, he wasers tried to strip them of their right to collectively bargain. overwhelmingly defeated at the polls. and let's talk about the auto rescue, definitely federal legislation. it put countless auto workers -- i don't know the numbers off the tip of my tongue. in lordstown went to three shifts to produce the chevy cru cruze, which i drive, and affected the entire supply chain to automakers. >> you know, clarence, the one thing is, there is no difference between what these radical governors ahave done at the legislative level at their state and what the tea party is trying to do in washington. are the people going to make the connection and buy it? >> well, it's not totally different. john kasich, significant to note, went past his republican legislature, bypassed them, in order to participate in the medicaid expansion under obama care, even though he's opposed to obama care. he knows where his bread is buttered. that's free money to the state, you could say, from the feds. most of the repub

among his guests governor john kasich and steve beshear. >>> overseas a protest for women's right to drive in a country where they are not allowed to do so. it happened in saudi arabia as a group of women took a bold step. they got behind the wheel. our report tonight from anna bell roberts. >> reporter: aziza al yusef left home in her car as she does every day. this time it's different. she's in the driver's seat. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: my choice is to drive my car. why should i be deprived of that? the college lecturer got her permit two years ago abroad. in saudi arabia driving permits here are only handed out to men. women are forced to employ drivers or rely on close male relatives. the campaign women to drive was trending on twitter. >> we ask every woman who has a driving license and is able to drive to go out. >> reporter: a few uploaded clips of their actions. activists say their message is being heard. >> it is a basic human right. there is absolutely no reason in the world that we cannot drive. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: this man disagre

so john kasich is very much a conservative, but john kasich also says, and he's a realist, and he's a fellow who wants to govern, he says, look, we have these uninsured people in ohio. we have these billions of dollars that are going to be made available to the state of ohio to cover our uninsured, why wouldn't we do that? the reaction on the other side -- if it was a decent argument on the other side, then i would sort of perk up and listen, but the argument is, it's a bumper sticker, sound bite, that's obamacare. as if anything that's related to obamacare is poison. if you go near it you're going to die. that's a bad view. i give john kasich, the governor of the state of ohio, high marks, and chris chris t. and scott walker in wisconsin, and other republican governors who have said, you know what, i don't like the affordable care act. i don't like a lot of pieces of obamacare, in this instance if this helps people in my state get access to health care, why wouldn't i do it? host: bradford, pennsylvania, frank, republican line. caller: good morning, steve. i'm an 87-year-old republic

seriously, this one time only i'm going to say republicans, act like john kasich. orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. [ ding! ] losing your chex mix too easily? time to deploy the boring-potato chip decoy bag. then no one will want to steal the deliciousness. [ male announcer ] with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix is a bag of interesting. >>> healthcare.gov may be the only website associated with obama care that's getting any attention these days, but the exchanges aren't the only place americans can enroll in health care coverage under the new law. more than half the people expected to become newly insured under the affordable care act will be new enrollees

and even now in ohio where john kasich announced that he would expand medicaid to poor and lower classhioans, and then you see states not trying to participate in the law. what you're going to end up with is a real patchwork system of health care coverage in the united states. >> is this like nullification? zeke, is this like nullification where if a state wants to oppose a charter, they say you run it, but we hope it fails? we're not helping you? >> they're certainly taking that attitude. but i think in the end, and the end will be in the next year or so, the website is going to work. and people in those states are going to be able to buy insurance and are going to be able to to get coverage for a very good price. the people who are left out are basically the hard-working people mo earn less than 100% of the poverty line. so for a family of four, less than 23, $24,000. and aren't going to be covered in the exchange and won't get medicaid. and those are the poorest of the poor in this country. and that's a real tragedy. >> and where are they going to be? >> they're going to be in texas

talking about chris christie in new jersey, whether you're talking about scott walker in wisconsin, john kasich in ohio, susanna martinez in new mexico. these are all popular governors in their own state, states that barack obama won, and governors that are concerned about their bond ratings. i remember when i had scott walker on a couple weeks ago. off the air, do you know what he bragged to me about? not about some fight with the unions. he said i'm in new york and i'm here to talk about how strong our state is and how our bond ratings are going to be higher. they've got to work with democrats, and that's exactly what they do. that's the great divide right now. republican governors are doing pretty darn well across america because they're not caught in this ideological trap that leads to nowhere. and i think that's why you see chris christie up by 33 points in a state that barack obama won by 18 points just last year. >> and i just understand the math to be that if you could get your bond rating up, that means it costs you less to borrow. and it's a lot easier to borrow if you have to. >> by

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john kasich in trouble at one point takes the medicaid funding. >> rick scott wants to take the medicaidunding. >> rick scott wants to take the medicaid funding. they have tried to move to a more moderate status even then. if they get re-elected, i think they will play an important role determining who the nominee is. >> alex, one thing. those guys get to run for re-election, governor of virginia gets one term. terry mcauliffe gets into office and hit the ground running, spotlight on the governorship will be intense because he has one term to do a lot. >> terry mccaskill, go do it. >>> coming up, is france really upset about the latest edward snowden revelations that the nsa listens to its phone calls or are the french feigning outrage because they play the same game? we'll discuss ahead. [ male announcer ] when you have sinus pressure and pain, you feel...squeezed. congested. beat down. crushed. as if the weight of the world is resting on your face. but sudafed gives you maximum strength sinus pressure and pain relief. so you feel free. liberated. released. decongested. open for busines

it makes me wonder is this the moment where john kasich is saying if that's the choice i'm choosing medicaidover running for president. >> you heard him speak from his heart about the religious values. >> leave that to sister simone and me. >> or if you can get your booking team on it, get him in here some way. but wherever you go on that hypothetical, it may be from the heart, which is great. it also may be the direction of the party. it's also important that people understand, you know, we reacted to that obama care ruling but saying they upheld the individual mandate. but never before had we seen an activist republican court try to open up a huge exception, right, basically inviting the state, opt out of this federal policy before the government could condition funds and they would have lost all their medicaid funds. and this was a political move by roberts. get the headline about upholding it and leaving this backdoor which has we have been discussing has left a lot of poor people out in the lurch. >> and sister, it's a horrible hole in the law. the people who would only qualify for the

. >> joining me now is one of the six lawmakers who filed the suit against john kasich. why do you want to deny these 270,000 ohioans medicaid? >> chris, thanks for having me. i knew it would be fun. this has not been an issue for us in the lawsuit, chris. we found a lawsuit to preserve the constitutional system in the state of ohio that separates the legislative authority. >> let me stop you right there. i totally understand that. there's a question before the court that has to do with the ohio state constitution, and i will admit to you, representative, i am not an expert on the ohio state constitution, but the point here to me is the lawsuit you've reverse engineered around opposition to the substance of the po policy. i mean, you don't want medicaid expanded. you're going to do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen. suspect that right? >> well, it's true i don't want medicaid expanded. and frankly many, many members of the legislature do not want medicaid expanded. we're still debating it. and frankly this action by the controlling board is preventing it

huge gains with gop leadership on the state level and i think those governors from scott walker to john kasich perry in texas and to bobby jindal, i think those guys and chris christie, i think those guys are enjoying a huge uptick in a popularity amidst all of this. now, that's a good thing because they're running their state. so before we get all, you know, giddy about, you know, hillary is going to love this, i don't think so. i think this whole thing looks terrible for obama, and you pointed it out with that military death benefits story. >> that is really, really -- >> i mean that and the world war ii memorial issue, bill, that kills obama. its makes him look terrible. >> his leadership quo shenlt is the lowest ever. thanks, laura. >>> our "mad as hell" segment. we'll be wild tonight. >>> up next, meg inkelly, a judge like you've never seen and a child who's raped because of it. [ woman #1 ] why do i cook? ♪ because an empty pan is a blank canvas. ♪ [ woman #2 ] to share a moment. ♪ [ man #1 ] to remember my grandmother. [ woman #3 ] to show my love. ♪ [ woman #4 ] because life needs flav

governor steve bashir and john kasich. >>> a high school math teacher murdered earlier this week. plans to lay her to rest. how police say the 14-year-old suspect tried to dispose of her body. ron allen is in danvers for us. good morning to you. what are you hearing about how she was killed? >> alex, we don't know why she was killed. it was a murder mystery that has this town very distraught. the family is trying to finalize funeral plans. it will take place on monday. we expect many students and teachers will attend that service. they return to school on friday. many describe it an emotional, difficult, but also very necessary day. just days aftermath teacher colleen ritzer was brutally murdered danvers high community returned with heavy hearts. >> it was good to be here and show support to the teachers because they needed it today. >> we move forward as a community and get through it the best we can. >> they want pink, her favorite color. they ventured into a school now the the scene of a horrific crime. >> it's just troubling to see. >> that is where 14-year-old phillip choice