because they weren't conservative enough. >> it wasn't a real right-wing government. >> so how does john kasichit into that? >> kasich represents, if you went back to that time before 2000, kasich was one of the stars of the right. he was -- >> the hard right. >> kasich was in the 1990s was roughly what paul ryan is today. he came out of the house, he was a midwesterner in the house who was the point man on budget issues, on fiscal issues. when bill clinton became president in '93, bill clinton's budget was raise taxes and later in the decade, a lot of people say, one of the reasons you had surpluses by the end of the decade was the '93 budget. the '93 budget, the republicans universally opposed it in the house and stood behind an alternative that was authored by john kasich. john kasich was their guy. and that's where his 2000 presidential campaign came at it. he was hot on the right in the '90s. unfortunately for him, the party was decided on george w. bush. but it wasn't a rejection of john case kick, it was just, bush is our guy. now you fast forward 15, 16 years later, i don't think john k

and so did john kasich. there's a moment they said this is un-american, not the nation we were based or founded on. that was an interesting turning point. >> at the top of the show there was a moment where marco rubio said that welders make more than philosophers, and made the argument about letting market forces decide the minimum wage. it's not true. according to the bureau of statistics, philosophers makes more man welders. i'm surprised carly fiorina didn't correct everyone, she was a philosophy major. >> in ohio, a private plane crashed into an apartment building. no one was inside the building or the house next door that caught fire. investigators are trying to determine how many were on board. authorities confirmed two deaths, but local news reports said as many of nine may have been killed. >> the white house says president obama will sign a new bill. the u.s. senate passes the bill. stopping detainees being travelled to the united states. >> reporter: the billion final legislative approval. freezing

single biggest misconception about john kasich is -- blank. gov. like mark halperin. >> there are people who think that. who would play you in a lifetime movie about john kasich? gov. kasich: probably harrison ford. david to company some people say -- david to company, some people say. >> this is a complicated one. gov. kasich: you haven't asked me how i'm doing in the polls. >> we never talk about polls. iowakasich: we've got coming and new hampshire. we are going to take those midterms. it will be really fun. i'm going to get a really high grade. >> if you were stranded on a desert island and could bring one fox news host with you, who would it be? gov. kasich: i'm not going to pick a host because i want to go on their shows. >> john kasich spirit animal is? gov. kasich: what does that mean? >> do you identify with any woodland creature? jungle creature? chipmunk? gov. kasich: you guys are just weirder's. -- weirdos. >> ideal set of pizza toppings. gov. kasich: just pepperoni. >> how do you feel about double pepperoni? gov. kasich: that's like do

coming up, why your high school yearbook might be helping john kasich and how jerry seinfeld is metaphorically back. ♪ john: there is a fascinating story up right now on bloomberg politics.com by sasha eisenberg. an unusual technique used to target voters in new hampshire. to understand that better, it is time for us to head to the victory lap. -- lab. beakers and everything else. thank you for joining us. targeting is something now that every candidate does. what is different about this for john kasich's super pac? sasha: we have heard a lot in the past year about super pac's. they have a program called targeted sharing. it was based on facebook where they asked supporters to open a list of friends in the campaign would tell them who the target is and will encourage their supporters to call or e-mail them. but there is a whole world not on the internet. you look as a republican primary election and those are the folks who are most likely to vote republican and who are least likely to be on facebook or active on facebook. then, also, when you look at the obama model, you need supporters to opt

i mean, maybe john kasich will cut that ad down to a 30-second version, we don't yet know. friday night and saturday night in iowa, south carolina and new hampshire are about to experience a whole ton of some previously very obscure, very invisible republican presidential candidates. and they are all getting it for free. thanks, mr. trump. we got lots more ahead tonight. stay with us. sure, tv has evolved over the years. it's gotten squarer. brighter. bigger. thinner. even curvier. but what's next? for all binge watchers. movie geeks. sports freaks. x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. that we were going to get a response, but tonight, we got a response and an answer, ask and ask and ask and you will finally get something at the last minute. this is a story about the ted cruz for president campaign. the response from the campaign to our reporting is really not what i was expecting, but that story, includinged campaign's response, is next, stay with us. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don

. >> john kasich was the top candidate on immigration. en donald trump was saying we are going to deport 11 million people all at once kasich stood up and said that's not economically feasible. even if you supported that there's no way you can do it. we are not structured to. the economic impact would be a terrible disaster. >> i like the point when it talks about the people that have attempted to i am great here legally and how it isn't fair to them. i agree with that point. >> overall winner. >> i know it isn't popular but i think john kasich is next to rubio the biggest threat with the democratic party. despite the fact that he didn't poll well he stands for issues and can get into the details. everybody else was rehearsed. >> you think he has best chance against democrats because he's most in line with him on a lot of ideas. >> maybe and he is from ohio. >> i think marco rubio is hitting hid stride at every debate he has been there and good. he's really communicating and connecting with the voters and able to take per roddy attacks tha

so what is it about john kasich?'s been successful in ohio. >> he's the biggest liberal in that state. that is the most liberal comment i've ever heard in a republican debate stage. >> why is it liberal? >> all we've heard about in the past, what he's done. nothing for the future. >> he's like a card board cut out of what he thinks we want to hear. >> he turned ohio around. >> he sounded like obama. who can afford it? who can't? >> we went from number two, right off the chart. >> because? why? >> he was acting like he was running the debate, just did not present himself well. >> i have to ask a question for you. we have the five debate don'ts. number one is don't interrupt. what is the issue there? >> politeness. >> how do you get in? >> but have you to wait for the moderator to call on you. if you have a chance to respond, they give you a chance. there is no need to interrupt. >> there is a specific moment. and donald trump is fascinating because carly fiorina is one of the most aggressive candidates. she's going to

>> well w people in milwaukee applauded for the john kasich and jeb bush prescription, as well as the ted cruz prescription. >> and not for donald trump? >> no, they didn't go for the donald trump, and he did not effectively land the punch the way that ted cruz did and the way that john kasich and jeb bush did for the other. in that room, he worked the least. on actual policy for trump to be subscribing to the 1954 eisenhower operation wetback project, i was deeply inhumane and flawed and nobody has been able to prove that it actually had long lasting impact on a illegal immigration is deeply problematic for the future of the party. you can have a reasonable immigration reform, like jeb has, like john kasich has without amnesty, and they laid out the best message for the republican party going towards a general election. >> and donna, is jeb bush right when he says that the folks in the hillary clinton campaign were high fiving each other with some of donald trump's comments and ted cruz on immigration? >> well, for the 12 million americans who are here undocumented, they are relieved

and john kasich spoke of the fantasy policies of carson and trump. >> kasich was like a jack in the box tonight. >> and he was frustrated at times. >> i do want to talk about the game that john kasich is playing and jeb bush plays. anyone that does want to stop illegal immigration. is it the sole reason that donald trump has risen in the polls. they play this game if you want to secure the border you are for deporting millions of people from america. that is why ted cruz jumped in with the line that played very well saying if we act like the democrats on amnesty we will lose. that is a shot at jeb bush and john kasich for playing the games that republicans play. >> look, i don't think it's a game. i think there are diverse thoughts in the republican party when it comes to immigration and you saw it in that room. you saw ted cruz's line play well but you saw kasich and bush's lines play well. we don't agree on this. and what you heard from jeb bush and john kasich was a practical plan and saying, look, there is no practical plan to deport 11 million people in one fell swoop. and what jeb

john kasich is saying we have to bail out the banks and not let people suffer. never mind the laws we have that already protect people. insurance of up to $200,000. the debate over the bailouts is what spurred the tea party into action. people were so frustrated with what president bush did, they are still working out that anger, and that anger is now being directed at john kasich because he reminds people of the bushes. >>> governing is defined by a lot of these folks as moving the country. this is margaret thatcher's complaint about the british conservative party. later government would govern, move the country left, a conservative government would sit there and manage it then they would lose and repeat the cycle. she was determined to move the government and the country in the other direction because she thought it was really damaging britain. that was also ronald reagan's point. >> john kasich is the governor of a purple state. he has been in congress, he's been in the private sector, and he's now a governor of that purple state. the purplest of them all. th

there's going to be more of that both from the super pac in terms of advertising and more from john kasiche goal is not necessarily to bring down donald trump. the goal is to rev up people who might support kasich. he's focussed on that. >> focussed on it. let's see if he can make it a little wider. >> if you live in iowa or new hampshire, get ready to see more marco rubio on your tvs. he's starting his first ad in the early primary states tomorrow. it's a 60-second spot. focussed on his dad called "bartender." we looked a the data for wumr. already one in five commercials is geared to the presidential campaign. rubio has more reserve time than anybody else for the next two and a half months up until voting. and interestingly donald trump and ben carson have reserved no time so far. and this brings out the question of does it matter? there's been no return on investment so far from candidates who are airing tv ads. so the question heading forward is for rubio can you move the needle on the air? we're about to find that out. >> and does saving your resou e resources for the last dash help o

and john kasich spoke of the fantasy policies of carson and trump. >> kasich was like a jack in the box tonight. >> and he was frustrated at times. >> i do want to talk about the game that john kasich is playing and jeb bush plays. anyone that does want to stop illegal immigration. is it the sole reason that donald trump has risen in the polls. they play this game if you want to secure the border you are for deporting millions of people from america. that is why ted cruz jumped in with the line that played very well saying if we act like the democrats on amnesty we will lose. that is a shot at jeb bush and john kasich for playing the games that republicans play. >> look, i don't think it's a game. i think there are diverse thoughts in the republican party when it comes to immigration and you saw it in that room. you saw ted cruz's line play well but you saw kasich and bush's lines play well. we don't agree on this. and what you heard from jeb bush and john kasich was a practical plan and saying, look, there is no practical plan to deport 11 million people in one fell swoop. and what jeb

beefesting to see a between a front runner and a not front runner, john kasich.ot going after john kasich, he was going after a lot of other people, but he has turned his attention. kasich made it clear that they were going to try to take down trump. in of the biggest questions politics in the last three or four months is, where would someone put up several million dollars to go after trump? john kasich's campaign know that their man is far behind, so they are going to be one of the first one to go after him in a big way. million dollars is being targeted in new hampshire and they have made some, shall we say, creative ads in the past. they're are going to go after whether trump is fit to be president, fit to be commander in chief. we will see. you mentioned frank davis, he is a good ad maker with a history of making good ads that not only get attention, but are oversized for a lot more than just $2.5 million, so let's see what they come up with. i think it is going to be heartening for a lot of people in the establishment who say, you know, we like john kasich,

john kasich had a particularly bad night. jeb bush fairly mediocre night, couple of big whiffs by him. marco rubio had a very good night. ted cruz misnaming five government departments and repeated the commerce department once, honestly, i think it was very refreshing. i was proud to be an american last night. and that hasn't happened during the last couple of debates, that's for sure. lou: interesting point, because being there in milwaukee in the milwaukee theatre, having an opportunity to see some of the debate in the room itself, the crowd was with these candidates, now admittedly, they were obviously partisans, but there was an elevated sense of participation, i thought, and i thought there was a -- i felt better leaving milwaukee than i felt when i got there. i think that the republican party has put together -- and i had a chance to tell this to the rnc chairman, who he hasn't heard this from me before, they think this group of candidates is really quite remarkable. you know, it's interesting, betsy, i agree with you.

you are john kasich, right? looking at six, seven candidates, shoulder to shoulder with carly fiorina and you attack donald trump. think this through for a minute. you are a donald trump supporter and see an ad hammering donald trump from john kasich, you're going to stop and say wow, i hadn't thought of that before. john kasich has my vote. are you kidding me? you think you're going to go from trump to kasich? it's a suicide mission! >> the american people say by a significant margin, 54% that they do not want any more refugees from syria or the middle east in this country until some people can assure the american people of their safety. your thoughts. >> well, that's right, lou, all this week, they've gone through every litany, talked about people on the eve of world war ii coming here and how they were turned back. and talk about the christ child in bethlehem some kind of refugee. whoopi goldberg even said hitler was a christian. why are we worried about muslims coming in. and even john kasich said reasonably

joining us now is john kasich. governor, good to see you.nks for joining us. >> thank you, maria. >> you have called on the u.s. to go toward article five with nato. explain exactly what you are proposing, governor. >> you know, after 9/11 france wanted to join us on article five that says an attack on one member of nato affects all of us. in this case, i think article five should be implemented which means all nato members would assist france as they move to protect themselves and root out the terrorists. i think it's a very important and very strong message, and further more, maria, i think the president ought to go to europe and convene a meeting, not only to drive forward on article five but also we need better coordinated intelligence worldwide and i think we better be doing joint planning in terms of the need for military action to destroy isis and not only just involve nato but of course want to work with some of our allies in the middle east, whether it's the jordans and saudis but we can't keep waiting. i've been arguing about the n

sasha: so the new hampshire that the john say kasich folks figure out that he lives in a world wherelikely to be his supporters and he is too. ,o you talk to your neighbor and then his friends, george and , and hisnd his parents extended family, uncle leo, and his coworkers -- they are using these different sources. newman is not up there because he is a classic trump voter. and each of these are giving a connection depending on how close they are to jerry. that cramer fact lives next door, that gives him a stronger connection than george. and instead of coming into a new and callingnk people indiscriminately, they can prioritize people who are most likely to be at the center of this universe. a call him a social anchor. mark: so they are using this not just to reach voters that also to endorse them. sasha: take an elected official that they want to reach. -- a u.s. senator in new hampshire, and they want to find the people who are around her. one of the challenges of the super pac is that they can't do the work on the campaign for endorsing her. but they want her neighbors and colle

is in dubuque for his latest campaign "i've been an executive,,ave a presidential candidate john kasich says about his record. the ohio governor is in dubuque for his balanced budget townhall meeting. "and now i've put out another what i've always thought is the great american dream, which is our next generation will do b bter than this generation." it was filled with a small crowd of about sixty dubuque students who got to ask him questions. afterwards...i spoke directly with kasich to find out you mentioned it bbiefly in the what is your position? "i think that the enthanol subsidy over time should be phased out, but we don't wanna point." on reforming welfare...kasich says it should be done across the board for the poor and rich. "we need to make sure some of these big subsidies for big corporations where they get sweetheart deals need to be examined. it doesn't mean that on job creation iowa...kasich says.... "terry branstad he doesn't need advice from me, he's been a governor for a long time and uh, you let me take cre of business in washington and ohio and i think terry can do a g

the big clashes were over the economy, and immigration with john kasich and jeb bush trying to stealhe spotlight. david shuster has our story. >> the simple fact of the matter is we hear a lot of promises in this debate. >> reporter: john kasich blasted his republican rivals and described his tax cut policies as unique. but kasick's plan relies on government revenue assumptions that experts call absurd. on this night outside of the debate hall, protesters demanded a raise to the minimum wage, inside ben carson justified his opposition with this. >> every time we raise the minimum wage the number of jobless people increases. >> reporter: but history does not support that claim. since 1979 congress has raised the minimum wage 11 times. according to labor day ta there have been overall job growth six times and overall job losses five. florida senator marco rubio in explaining his opposition to the minimum wage tried to shift the focus to something he supports, vocational training. >> welders make more money than philosophers. >> reporter: the problem is according to the bureau of labor

you have to pick somebody that has experience and know-how and discipline. >> john kasich taking a shot at outsiders in the presidential race including ben carson and donald trump. james, that was clearly thought out strategic play. why do you think kasich did that and is it going to help him? >> he's trying to present himself as the conservative reformer who has gotten it done and can do it in the future. he has a few problems. one, substantive. the math can work on a low flat rate tax system. >> maybe not 10%. 20% or something. >> i would say even in the teens. you look at cruz and rand paul. they create revenue with value added tax on business. the point is this can be done. this is not an impossible idea to have a low flat rate tax system. economics are flawed. it's a muddled message. i'm conservative reformer that got it done but he lays out liberal positions and voter is left to wonder what they're getting here. >> the other thing about kasich's broadside is it wasn't so much aimed at carson and trump but in some ways at the voters saying wake up, people. you're out of it. get wit

then you have sort of a counter vailing point from john kasich who said i'm not so sure. maybe this is something that we have to reconsider and that we even did in ohio. you can sort of see the candidates, where it's this issue or several others jockeying for the hearts and minds of moderates, if you will, in addition to the conservative base. >> front runner ben carson's performance highlighted the fact that he has never held political office before. >> blizzard warnings are up in parts of the plains and rocky mountains. denver is getting buried in snow as a huge storm moves east into colorado, nebraska and cans. it could bring more than half a foot of snow and winds of more than 50 miles an hour to colorado and nebraska. that could mean white out conditions, as well as how are outages. nicole mitchell is tracking the storm. >> this has been a potent system and is intensifying getting into the central united states. we have seen most live the snowy side in the rockies pulling out into pores of the plains. we can see heavy snow, even in some cases blizzard conditions, bec

more bush and christie than john kasich. just have the executive in them.ness profile to at the end of the day, i think will have anz advantage over the governors. i think them demonstrating real expertise, marinating these issues for a wild, they have been in the middle of these foreign policy fights with president obama. they had to vote whether to send troops to syria. they had to take real responsibility. they had to vote on what to do with the intelligence and national security programs, the metadata program. a have a level of knowledge, discourse, and the credentials are less important than the experience that those credentials represents. mark: if hillary clinton got elected and ask you to be national security advisor, would you do it? dan: wow. mark: yeah, you would. would you do it? you would do it because you are a patriot. but there's not that much tween what you believe in terms of specific policy decisions then you do. true or false? dan: false. health care reform -- the biggest entitlement established in modern

john kasich, absolutely. yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. >> yeah. >> jimmy: sorry, i apologize. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i apologize. >> well, because, kind of, seriously. >> jimmy: yeah. >> he's a really, really nice man. and many years ago, he tried to stab me with a knife. >> jimmy: oh, my god, now, now, this is a big deal. you can't just say this on national tv if it's not real. the john kasich running for president or a different john kasich. >> tried to stab me with a a knife. mike huckabee tried to hit my mom in the head with a hammer. >> jimmy: that is not true. [ laughter ] you're making up all these stories. >> no, i'm not, ask them. >> jimmy: these are not true at all. >> i'm just corroborating. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: these are, nothing is true. >> fortunately, you know, i spend a lot of time out west in montana and oregon. our buckles are big. >> belt buckles. >> jimmy: oh, i love them. >> fortunately, my mom had one of those big rodeo belt buckles. >> jimmy: on her head. >> yes. >> jimmy: and mike h

a superpac supporting john kasich launched this attack ad against you. >> on the job training doesn't work. benghazi, beheadings, paris. our lives depend on a commander in chief with experience who understands the world. >> clear implication is that you don't, what is your response to that ad? >> john kasich is going nowhere, he was at the head of lehman, one of the top people at lehman, he's going nowhere. anybody who does an ad against me will be hit ten times. look, they want to do it because i'm leading. you just came out with the poll that says i'm leading. because people are sick and tired of stupid and incompetent people leading our nation. we have incompetent people, when president obama stands up and says isis is contained and, then a few hours later you have one of the most horrible attacks, and you have 300 people laying in the hospital, many of them dying, we have no idea, then he wants to take in people who have no documentation, no paperwork, no anything, from syria on the migration, people are going to come pouring in, and the number he wants is much higher than 10,000.

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we saw him scraping with mostly ohio john kasich. still that fighting spirit in donald trump that we've come to know from him. >> jeb bush hanging in there. i want to show you sort of the number, how it broke down, how much time people had to speak. ben carson, nine minutes, two seconds. >> that's the bottom right there. >> he was mild mannered and didn't probably have to speak more than that. jeb bush with nine minutes and 50, jeremy. >> yeah, absolutely. ben carson didn't need to do he didn't need to have fireworks last night. he has been rising in the polls. he is challenging donald trump for the front runner status in the republican primary. reese height up there with donald trump with 20-plus percentage points in the polls. ben carson, this strategy has worked for him. it's the if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? he has been sticking with that in the past debates, his poll numbers have risen off of it. there is something working with his mild mannered style, his. that's what's worked well in iowa and i think ben carson wants

john kasich's for us. responsible for the content of erin: welcome back. the u.s. is considering new measures in the wake of that deadly russian plane crash. this comes as security is being beefed up at the egyptian airport where that flight took off from almost a week ago. president obama now saying there is a "possibility" it was abc' s marci gonzalez has the latest developments. marci: today, russian president vladimir putin suspending flights to egypt as security is stepped up at airports around all in response to last week' s deadly plane crash, and the belief a bomb may have brought the russian jet down. pres. barack obama: i think there is a possibility that and we' re taking that very marci: still no official cause of the crash that killed all 224 people on board. officials in moscow are now analyzing wreckage for traces of explosives, though u.s. and british authorities tell abc news they' ve intercepted electronic communications of isis terrorists talking specifically about a bomb. intelligence officials briefed congress that they' re still not certain wh

you'll hear john kasich talk about it. there's a cast of republicans, john, that have been ignoring john kasich, his success in ohio, when he's talking about protecting medicaid, protecting score, but then when you go to -- so -- anyway, okay, john, i was saying there's republicans on either side. some say that social security and medicaid should be protected, people like john kasich especially who are doing that, and -- >> mike, we're having trouble with your microphone. we'll try to get back to you. coming up next on the broadcast, the trouble with wages. the economy recovers. salaries remain stagnant. plus, where the republican candidates stabbed on raising the minimum wage after this. >>> for years wages have been stagnant. last month american workers did see an average increase in their wages. sit down for this. it was nine cents an hour. that's the biggest increase since the great recession. tonight if the issue of wages comes up, and it might, few candidates are likely to endorse raising them. >> the undeniable truth

neil: thank you very much, john kasich, governor of ohio. john kasich, governor of ohio. and he reminded me of that if you're an adult with type 2 diabetes and your a1c is not at goal with certain diabetes pills or daily insulin, your doctor may be talking about adding medication to help lower your a1c. ask your doctor if adding once-a-week tanzeum is right for you. once-a-week tanzeum is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes, along with diet and exercise. once-a-week tanzeum works by helping your body release its own natural insulin when it's needed. tanzeum is not recommended as the first medicine to treat diabetes or in people with severe stomach or intestinal problems. tanzeum is not insulin. it is not used to treat type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis, and has not been studied with mealtime insulin. do not take tanzeum if you or your family have a history of medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you're allergic to tanzeum or any of its ingredients. stop using tanze

donald trump is on rival john kasich's home turf, ohio. kasich is defending his ground, going after trump directly in a new ad, while the pro-kasich super pac does the same. the ohio governor also held two conference calls yesterday to talk about trump. but in typical trump fashion he is not backing down. trump got a mixed reaction when reading poll numbers at a rally last night. >> wow. -- only two, what happened? wow. >> then this from twitter. going to ohio, home of one of the worst presidential candidates in history, kasich. can't debate, loves obamacare. dummy. trump also released an anti-hillary clinton video on his instagram, showing the democrat laughing while headlines, and at one point the flames from benghazi burn on the screen. >> including fbi -- >> look -- >> i don't know why that's funny. >>> meanwhile john kasich is one of the republicans taking advantage of equal time rules on nbc, after donald trump's appearance on "snl." he and mike huckabee, jim gilmore and lindsey graham will have local ad time in key early voting stat

i've been favorably disposed to john kasich from what i've seen of him thus far.t disappointed me. what was your reaction? >> well good morning, michael. i actually would have to agree with you on that. i don't think we they'd more government. government is the problem. we don't need government to promote judeo-christian values. what we need are government leaders that respect our constitutional freemgs of the freedom of religion and that means the foreign minister of expression which has been consistently under attack under the last seven years of this administration. so we need elected leaders that are committed to upholding and living by the constitution. >> i know that governor kasich walked back a portion of that but i focused more on what you just said which is the establishment of a new agencies or a new arm of the bureaucracy. that wasn't the part that was troublesome to me. the troublesome part is we'll seek to expand our religious interpretation, so-called judeo-christian values, that plays right into the hands of isis. that's the part i was finding prob

you think john kasich had a bad night?mum wage, declared the amnesty support and supported it bailout. if we wanted to throw in the hat and get in the democratic debate that would be a winner. but this doesn't work in the republican party. i think he barely made the stage with 3% and he is .05 from falling off the stage. >> bill: trump is the third person you want to single out. this is what he had about having a tax plan on behalf of the republican challengers. >> we all have a different tax plan, some i don't agree with, but each one of those tax plans is better than the mess we have right now. >> bill: pretty generous as a competitor. you say he was nice but substance-free. >> instead of talking about rubio being sweaty and carson being low energy he complimented them. he was being supportive. but the interesting thing is what fox business did yesterday, which i thought was interesting, was they gave every candidate 90 seconds to answer so you can expand on your ideas. this was a debate with the most substance. trump wa

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john kasich and jeb bush pushed back very hard against that.n the middle of that. he switched over to the line you just showed. i think at some point he's going to have to be pressed on that and asked whether he embraces a really fight radical plan trump is talking about in shipping the 11 million people out of the country. >> so, matt, did anything change the playing field last night, including chris christie's performance which many said was very strong in the undercard debate? >> christie did well. rand paul did well. i think it was mostly a status quo debate. it was a good debate, substantive. i don't see any huge shifts. the one thing i would keep an eye on, though, that i'm starting to sense, is the emergence of a looming ted cruz versus marco rubio battle. a lot of us believe that eventually when -- if and/or when donald trump and ben carson sort of fade away, you're going to have the big sort of clash be cruz versus marco rubio. and cruz is starting to lay the ground work for attacking rubio on amnesty and sugar subsidies. we saw that l

jon: does john kasich win support with that argument?the field this spread out, you could win a state by consolidating moderate republicans and other republicans and that is john kasich's goal making headway in new hampshire. the substance of what he is saying, comes across as very ornery, sometimes hectoring. the liberal policy positions he takes are going to be difficult but you could make some head way to consolidate moderate and liberal republicans, it is hard to get behind them. jon: a fascinating evening. john mccormack from the weekly standard. jenna: an event that is supposed to be beyond politics, arlington national cemetery we are watching the beginning of a program where we expect to see the president's speech in a few moments on the importance of this day and we expect an update as well on the issues for the department of veterans affairs. we have that after the break. hi, i'm henry winkler and i know there are many myths out there about a reverse mortgage so i want you to know the facts. a reverse mortgage is insured by the