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let's discuss now, our john kasich, former republican of ohio.y much, i am so glad that you can join us tonight to talk about all these issues. i know you heard my conversation with frank and you will agree the internal war is tearing the gop apart. it is what i say every single night. here is a pollster, a republican-leaning pollster saying the same thing that i say on the show every night and you have been saying. >> yeah, don, you have to have an alternative. you just cannot be there bashing somebody else and not have any kind of a program or plan at all. you need modernized conservative solutions is what you need. modern size and 21st century answers to these problems. and fighting internally is crazy. i got to tell you where i disagree with frank, it looks good for the republicans to take back the house. it is historic and they control the map and it is likely to win. the problem is what are we going to do and what happens? i think frank is absolutely right. i have been saying this for a long time. the $6 trillion in spending is as astronomi

john kasich verses barney frank. "outfront" tonight, cheney verses trump. cheney today met behind closed doors at the republican conference and tore into the president and his lies about the election. we can't whitewash what happened on january 6th to perpetuate trump's big lie. what he did on january 6th is a line that can't be crossed. stunning remarks by the highest republican woman in the house. just by saying those, she could lose her leadership. cheney could lose her vote and take out of leadership. kevin mccarthy quotes "furious of cheney." >> the 2020 election was not stolen. anyone who claims it is is spreading the big law and paysonpa payspa payspa payspa poisoning our system. the fraudulent of the 2020 election known as capped, "the big lie." >> trump is doing what he succeeding his own life. he knows the word "the big lie" refers to trump's election. and it did not stop there. he released another statement calling cheney a warmonger claiming she will never run in another election again. >> the president and many around him pushing the idea that

i think that's a great question for john kasich. next. >>> turning against congresswoman liz cheney. next week she is likely to be tossed out of her position as the third highest ranking republican in the house. kevin mccarthy caught on a hot mic today saying he's lost confidence in her. she calls it poison to democracy. let's see what our senior commentator john kasich, the former governor of ohio thinks about that. good evening. >> good evening mr. lemon. >> she's not backing down. why is she brafer than so many other republicans, willing to stand up for the truth. really, what's going to happen with her? >> look. what's going to happen to us. so she won't be in the republican leadership. it's not like this golden ticket you got from willie wonka. it's not that big a deal, number one. number two her father, her father's a tough guy. you might have taken him on but he doesn't budge. the apple doesn't fall frar from the tree. in addition to that i've been wondering when we would have people who will stand up and say i've had enough.

what do you say john kasich?> republicans think they got to suck up to donald trump because they need him to fire up their base and they take the map and make it good for their own party to win the majority. it is all about power. i hear mr. potato head and i hear about "dr. seuss" and the cancel culture. what are they thinking of healthcare and prescription drugs and environment and the spending since they went out the door and spending after donald trump. it is pathetic. erin, i will say this. if they win the majority, they'll moderate joe biden, i am surprised of joe biden's performance so far. if they win the majority, they'll moderate joe biden. they'll be happy with that. what are they going to be for or improve the lives of americans. that's why you get elected. you get elected to try to improve people's lives. this is a sad day in our country. another sad day. we'll get through it. >> jamie, i want to ask you about this vote, you point out last time a couple of months ago when there was a vote of cheney,

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. >> let's get some analysis from our chief political correspondent dana bash and john kasich.kasich, we all saw the violent images of the attack on the capital january 6th. the justice department says it's made already 430 criminal arrests. how unsettling is it to see some of your fellow republicans defend those rioters trying to rewrite history, suggesting they were patriotic tourists? >> wolf, i'm disturbed at not just republicans but any americans who are saying these kinds of things. i mean, it would be like denying that we ever landed on the moon to say that what happened on january 6th was not a riot, was not an insurrection would be to me equal to saying, oh no, no, we never made it on the moon, they were really out in some desert in arizona. it's shocking to try to cover up. they're trying to repaint history. you can't do it. i can't believe any american wants to do that. we're all so upset about what happened that day and it was a shame on our country. it was viewed around the world. it's amazing to me. it's like you think we've gone as low as we can, and then an argu

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what a lesson for our kids. >> yeah. >> what a lesson for their kids. >> john kasich, look at that. guest on the don lemon tonight show. >> oh my god, 20? i mean. >> i'm joking. i'm making up a number. thank you, john. >> i used to be important, you know. i sweep the streets i used to own. col coldplay. you will some day too, don lemon. >> you don't even know what i'm saying. that's a whole another thing. thank you, sir, mr. cold play. >>> republicans doubling down on conspiracies and misinformation. stunts over substance. what is it doing to our democracy? jon meacham weighs in. he is next. ♪ ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪this magic moment,♪ but there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪so different and so new.♪ ♪was like any other...♪ cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ ♪ ♪ security at your fingertips. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. >>>

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in the meantime, i want to bring in our cnn special correspondent jamie daniel, john kasich and david, what will tonight's vote, which we're about to hear, tell us about the current state of the republican party and its relationship for all practical matters for the truth? >> some republicans are going to vote for the bill. john kepko, the ranking member, republican from new york who is managing the bill on the side for republicans who negotiated this bipartisan deal, he said everything in this bill is designed to remove politics from it, to take it out of being politicized. clearly that's not what the leadership of the republican party is doing and so what you see here, wolf, is that the vast majority of republicans are saying we do not want nor do we need an independent bipartisan authoritative accounting of one of the greatest attacks on our democracy that we've seen in our lifetimes and that is a stunning statement. so their relationship here to wanting to get to the bottom of this is non-existent. >> yeah, that's really disturbing right now, jamie. talking to your republican sour

john kasich would be booed. mitt romney would be booed at that rally. every single principled conservative would be booed at that rally. the first order of paul ryan, who sits on the board of fox news, is to criticize what fox has done. if anybody has propped up donald trump over the course of the last five years, and continues to do, it's fox news. and the one main entity that is propagated the big lie that led to january 6 is fox news. and so if you want to redo the republican party, you've got to start with fox news. >> and the propaganda machine that is driving this messages that people are feeding off of. matthew, great to see you. thank you. governor, thank you again for your time. >> thank you. i'm not giving up. i'm not giving up on principle. >> you don't. i'm the cynical one. you always try to convince me to stop being cynical. thank you, governor. >> we shall overcome. believe me. >> thank you both. >>> up next, new information about the nine people killed during the mass shooting at the rail yard. i'll speak to a san jose councilman who is m

she endorsed john kasich as i mentioned earlier. just a little earlier tim miller was on nicolle's show and it blew my mind saying she helped him with the autopsy in 2012. she was on the team that did that. she says obviously very, very ambitious. but roll call wrote this about her. she's more of a liberal than 98% of her party. while cheney ranks right in the middle. 538's biden voting score shows her voting with the democratic president, voting with joe biden 18.8% of the time. only 20 other republicans are more biden-y than stefanik. so she is -- she is add much defrauding republican trumpy voters as bannon was accused of, right? >> right. so the question is -- the question is was she full of crap then when she was hanging out in bush world and romney world? or is she full of crap now? i don't know. so either way, crap is crap. and it is the best reflection of where the gop is right now, as they are about to knock out a principled woman for crap. and i think we need to be honest about what it is. donald trump brought the gold toi

john kasich eats like a pig. you may agree with him or not but trump told the truth.l de blasio. chadwick moore tells the truth. he's a columnist for a "spectator" and we're happy to have him. i just mostly heard in my earpiece fazio eating fries, pardon the expression, in a very moist way. it made me never want to take an advil. [laughs] you are killing me. >> we all had that stoner roommate in college that ate fast food for breakfast and now we just happen to be the chief executive of the nation's largest city. i don't think it's a big deal, he's a very busy guy. and he's got to eat but i do think it sort of concerning and really hypocritical. as i remember, president trump host the football team at the white house and, excuse me i don't think there will be eating at shake shack anytime soon. >> >> tucker: but to encourage everyone to take it including people who don't want to buy trying to bribe them, rather than just explain why they should and make a reasonable case as you would with adults but they are treating people like plebes, like they have total contempt f

john kasich verses barney frank. "outfront" tonight

last night john kasich and i -- i love john. he's great. but we have very tough conversations sometimes, and i think you should treat people who you are in friendship with or a family member with, you should have those conversations the way that you have at a dinner table, a barbecue, a picnic, and you say, man, you are crazy. now give me that rib. you no he what i'm saying? not everybody -- look, you should be respectful, but there's no -- you don't have to polite and tiptoe around things. i say, chris, wait a minute. whoa, whoa, whoa. >> it helps you find the connective tissue. there's a stat that really bothers me. 70% of the american people agree on the main priorities. well, then why the hell are we so divided? a little bit of that is the fridgification. fringification. but it's also because people's social media, you're not around. you're not confrontation with. you don't have that moment with, why do you want to take away my second amendment right? i'm like, i don't know. i'm a gun owner. they're like, what do you mean i'm a gun owne

john kasich teeth like a pig.ith him or not, but trump told the truth there. and so does bill de blasio. chadwick moore tells the truth, a columnist for "the spectator," and we're happy to have him on. chadwick moore, thanks so much. i just heard, mostly heard in my earpiece, bill de blasio eating fries, in a very moist way. [laughs] it made me never want to take in and fill. advil. >> we all had that stoner roommate in college who ate fast food for breakfast and now he just happens to be the chief executive of the nation's largest city. he's a very busy guy. that's what he's got to eat. i do think it is sort of concerning and really hypocritical, i remember president trump hosted a football team at the white house, and -- excuse me. he served mcdonald's, and the media was saying that was classist and racist. i don't know who de blasio is think he is trying with the fast food, but it seems a little bizarre. i mean come all of the people, the rich white people with their "i got vaccinated" stickers, i don't think t

last night, john kasich and i. i love john. he's great. but we -- we have very tough conversations, sometimes. and i think you should treat people, who you are in friendship with. you are a family member with. you should have those conversations the way you have at a dinner table, a barbecue, or a picnic or whatever, and then you say, oh, man, you are crazy. now, give me that rib. you know what i am saying? instead of like not everybody -- look, you should be respectful. but you don't have to polite and like tiptoe around things. chris, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> just help you find the connective tissue. you know, there is a stat that really bothers me. 70% of the american people agree on the main priorities. well, then, why the hell are we so divided? a little bit of that is the fringefication. a little bit of that is salacious. but it's also because people, social media, you're not around. you are not in confrontation with. you are not dealing with directly so you don't have that moment i will have with someone's lik

joining us now jamie gangel, john kasich and cnn political commentator mia love, a former republicanie, you're hearing from your sources, i understand, that this could happen as early as next week. tell us how this all might play out and what else you're learning. >> exactly as ryan said, i am told that kevin mccarthy thinks he has the votes, that it is a done deal and that they expect the vote on wednesday or as early as wednesday, may 12th. i'm also told that elise steph n anik is the front runner to replace liz cheney, that she is lobbying and has other people lobbying on her behalf. elise steph nick is a trump loyalist. that's what this is about. donald trump got kevin mccarthy to push liz cheney out. not too long ago i spoke to a source familiar with what liz cheney is thinking about all of this. i was told, quote, that liz cheney is -- this is all not a surprise to her, that she knew this was coming and she is not afraid of the consequences. the stakes are too high, the source told me. and finally, wolf, i'm told liz cheney will not step aside. she will wait for the vote. >> we

. >> let's get analysis from our abby phillip and john kasich.o see you both on this friday. governor, what goes through your mind seeing the republican party turn a blind eye to congressman gaetz and congresswoman marjorie taylor green but punish house number three liz cheney for refusing to lie? >> it gets crazier every day. i couldn't see this rally, but this raucous rally that is supporting someone obviously in deep trouble and i'm not about to convict him. everybody deserves their day. this lady, the qanon person, it's really pretty amazing to me. you know, it gets to a level that it's kind of hard for me to comprehend. as i have just been saying lately, this is the way it is for today. i hope tomorrow's going to be a much different day. >> you say it's hard to comprehend, but in some ways it also sort of crystallizes where the republican party is right now. you heard senator lindsey graham saying the republican party can't move forward without former president trump. how did the gop get from january 6th to here? >> i think they've seen that

he might have won john kasich over if he had any bona fides to be in the position. the game is so obvious and so ugly. you have mccarthy -- >> it is. >> saying one minute, trump called me, we had an "f"-bomb exchange. and he said he's going to send help. i'm okay. mcconnell, saying if he were still in office, i would be thinking about this. now, no new questions. it's just a game. the question is, do the people ever demand that it stops being played? >> well, you know, you heard, as you were ready to do the handoff from anderson cooper, the people reacting to him saying it was like a tourist visit. they were fed up. >> i don't know that they were fed up. >> sounded like it to me. >> he seemed like he did pretty good. but go ahead. >> look, what happens is, once you have ten, then 12, then 20, then 35. you see what is happening is people begin to realize, they can be their own people. they don't have to check their conscience at the doorway. they can go out there, defy the leadership, which is what they did today. they defied them, and they're going to live until tom

in 2016, she was a supporter of john kasich. so what happened? it looks like the age-old siren song of power and money over ethics. when trump was impeached the first time she saw an opportunity to play partisan ball. she was rewarded in donations for her campaign. sucking up to trump paid. she won praise from the president on fox news. when it came time to vote to overturn the election after the attack on the capitol, stefanik was a willing soldier in the sedition caucus. another ivy league populist who attacks democracy and then complains when she's called out. now she sees an opportunity to ride the big lie to more power. her re-election may be "liars prosper." liz cheney has chosen a different path writing, history is watching. our children are watching. we must be brave enough to defend the basic principles that underpin and protect our freedom and democratic process. i'm committed to doing that no matter what the short-term political consequences might be. that's a declaration of conscience for our times. a reminder that our political diffe

. >>> joined now by john kasich, republican, member of congress from ohio before serving as data, abby phillip. governor kasich, what do you think the consequences are going to be if liz cheney is ousted in favor of stefanik or someone else. >> they've got to be careful. you could create an insurgency inside the party. you think she's going to go away? and there will be people -- some will be openly for her. others will saddle up toer her. and i can tell you when people stand alone -- and i did that many times when i was in the congress -- it's amazing how people will come around you. and anderson, you said a number of things here tonight that i agree with. i think you were spot on. one of the most important things that you said was "these days." yes, that's where the republican party is today. but, you know, where it's going to be in the long run, we're hoping it's going to change. one other thing that i need to mention to you. they just had a special election in texas down in ft. worth, and i noticed the republican turnout dwarfed the democrat turnout. the republicans, even though th

. >> now, others before cheney have tried to turn that party tide like former governor john kasich, jeffally driven out of politics. several states have been passing voting restrictions and launching faux investigations centered on the lie that the election was stolen. >>> a near catastrophic example of why president biden is pushing for an infrastructure overhaul. a major crack has been discovered in the bridge carrying interstate 40 over the mississippi river. it is shut down for emergency repairs which could last months. boat traffic under the bridge also closed. 24 vessels and more than 300 barges waiting to travel the lower mississippi river. president biden will meet with republicans today after making little progress wednesday with top congressional leaders. cnn's daniella diaz is live on capitol hill with more. this bridge crack such a prime example of why the president is so focused on this issue. >> reporter: yep, and it's infrastructure week all over again, laura. look, biden is really focused on trying to negotiate a deal this week with republican and democratic leaders on an

. >>> joined now by john kasich. republican who was a member of congress from ohio before serving as governor. abby phillip, our senior political correspondent. governor kasich, i mean, what do you think the consequences are going to be if and when liz cheney is ousted in favor of elise stefanik or somebody else? >> you know, anderson, they better be careful. because you could create an insurgency inside the party. if they throw liz cheney out of that leadership job, you think she is going to go away? and there will be people, who will -- some will be openly for her. others will saddle up to her. and you -- you -- i can tell you that, when people stand alone, and i did that many, many times when i was in the congress. it's amazing how people will come around you. and, anderson, you said a number of things here, tonight, that i -- that i agree with. i think you were -- you were spot on. one of the most important things that you said was, these days. yes, that's where the republican party is today. but, you know, where

to be the front man for the establishment to bring our party back to the days of mitt romney and john kasichgoing back this is donald trump's party and i am a donald trump republican. marjorie: yeah. [cheers and applause] that's right. trump is the leader of the republican party. matt: i know what he is going to say when we talked about. he will say, matt, i got to go to the villages. they are ready for you, mr. president. majories: let's tell them a few stories. all right. i did talk to one democrat recently. [booing] just one. from new york 14. i'm in georgia's 14th district, she's from new york's 14th district. a.o.c. wait, wait. i mean sandy. sandy cortez. so little sandy wrote a little 14-page piece of legislation called the green new deal. is anyone familiar? little sandy has a degree in economics. i have a business degree and i'm a successful business owner. but sandy has worked in the restaurant industry. that's a hard job. i waited tables in college. i commend her for that, i'm serious. but i have a real big problem with the green new deal. it's going to destroy our economy. and it'

caller: you know, in 20 i voted for john kasich in the primary.ou have to understand, the low turnout that he got. now we want to kick liz cheney out because she seems to have a brain. are we going to follow trump back into the same ditch that he drove us into? i just don't understand what the republicans are thinking. seriously. host: to noel in lafarge ville, new york. hello there. caller: thanks for taking my call. first, i miss brian lamb. secondly, liz cheney should go. the only people who support is nancy pelosi, and these liberal democrats. they love her now. i'm not crazy about cheney. i'm not crazy about elise stefanik either. but liz cheney should go. if she is supported by democrats, that is an issue. host: this is an opinion piece this morning in the "national review," conservative publication. the headline of a piece is, "liz cheney is not the problem." i will scroll down and read a part of what they say in their opinion piece. they write that -- from "national review we hear from ken next in woodstock -- from "national review." we he

. >> look, we just had john bain boehner on his book tour, people in the trump cabinet that should have been speaking out. the kasich, even the bush family, frankly. why can't some of them just be for joe biden? if you have insurrection on one side, maybe spending too much to my taste on the other side, i just -- it's frustrating to see a lot of them saying, well, i'm just going to take a pass on that. >> claire, i share tim's feeling. i think we know the folks who have been out publicly, this wasn't a choice between a democratic candidate who might spend more, and a republican. this was a choice between a lying, corrupt, it turned into an insurrectionist and a patriot. i want to read you more. i saved this piece from new reporting in "the washington post." the piece goes on to describe, i think for the first time an interact, you have caused this, senator mitt romney erupted at hawley, referring to the events leading up to the storming of the capitol, according to a person who was family with the exchange, who spoke unanimously. can you manage all those names, people who have a lifetime of caring not just about our