sherman who has great sources in the white house and conservative media that ivanka is looking for a john kelleyi think these headlines about president kelley or president miller undermine both of them. we know one of the reasons the president got sick of steve bannon was the perception that bannon was running the show. he does not like that. and given he already has tension with kelley, i think that's tough. he seems to like steve miller, he seems to -- they seem to have some kind of affinity. i don't really know what it is. but he and kelley kind of chafe, but he and miller are more comfortable. >> "time" magazine ran a thing that said, the most important person in washington for kelley or miller, that would truly be the end? >> that would be the end for killy. miller might get a talking-to. >> who influences president trump the most in the person who has his ear last? this administration came into office and it's been since they've been here, tumultuous from the start. a lot of staffers seemingly in the doghouse with this president. >> yeah, and i mean, i don't know the ins and outs of what's

. >>> plus white house steve of chaff john kelley says trump's pledge to build that wall was boss, the president? and how the author of fire and fury worked his way into donald trump's west wing. we will talk to the reporter who first broke these details as the 11th hour gets under way on a wednesday night. and good evening once bane from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 363 of the trump administration and the former white house chief strategist steve bannon remains in the news as the man they want to talk to in the russia matter. one day after mueller subpoenaed bannon to appear before a grand jury a source close to him said he is cooperating with the special counsel and will be interviewed by mueller's team instead of testifying before a grand jury per se. the date has yet to be determined. steve bannon spent nearly 10 hours in a closed door hearing in the house intelligence

chief of staff john kelley was on capitol hill to meet with members negotiating a daca deal, made headlines of his own with "the washington post" reporting that "kelley told democratic lawmakers wednesday that the united states will never construct a physical wall along the entire stretch of the u.s./mexico border and that some of president trump's campaign promises on immigration were "uninformed." he clarified those comments during a fox news appearance later this evening. >> as we talked about things, where this president and is how much he wants to deal with this daca issue and take it off the -- take it away, i told him, you know, there's been an evolutionary process that this president has gone through as a campaign. i pointed out to the members in the room that they all say things during the course of campaigns that may or may not be fully informed. >> here's where we are. if the house and senate can't agree on daca, republican leadership is urging congress to pass a, you guessed it, temporary funding bill kicking the can down the road. but even that is a questionable proposition. fo

along come right-wing members of his administration on immigration that includes chief of staff john kelley, but notably steven miller, who informed trump that that really isn't his position. and so what could have been a very easy and sensible fix that would have avoided all of this kerfuffle was pushed aside by trump. then that happened a second time with schumer. and it's not just democrats who are saying that trump is being pushed by right-wingers inside his administration or that he -- and that he really doesn't know the issues. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate, got on the floor and said, it would help if knew where the republicans stood. and of course lindsey graham called out steven miller outright. so this is one particularly stark example of how we could govern ourselves in a perfectly reasonable fashion that didn't tack way left or way right. and that the republican party is now in thrall to some very radically conservative elements who when the crunch comes win out. that's a real problem for the country. >> i guess what people all over the country and all over

there are some tweets that he runs by john kelley or skulls wi -- consults with aides.e social media director. others he just does, whether in response to perhaps something formal like a briefing that he had received in the hours or days before, or something very informal, because he saw it on "fox and friends" or other cable tv networks. it's obviously unclear as to what prompted this tweet. we don't know yet. we'll try to find out. reporting-wise, in terms of who, if anyone, he consulted before tweeting this. but that is one of the unknowns of the president's twitter account and one of the things he loves so much about it, he feels it keeps america's allies and adversaries alike on their toes. >> he has -- i think he tweeted in the last few days, sometime in the recent past. there's this clip of bill clinton when he was president in 1993 publicly making a threat to north korea, basically we have the ability to wipe you out, so don't mess with us. i think the message turnover was trying to send was,fy send a tweet like i just sent, it is not -- the message is not neces

. >> priebus replaced by retired general john kelley, the former secretary of the department of homeland security. he was brought in to bring stability and structure to a chaotic west wing. also leaving, press secretary sean spicer, who resigned immediately after the president hired anthony scaramucci as his communications director. >> i love the president and i'm very, very loyal to the president. >> scaramucci says he was brought on by mr. trump to quell the chaos caused by rival fiefdoms in the right wing. one fiefdom run by bannon, the second by probe us in, the third by president trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, and his wife, the president's daughter, ivanka trump. >> there was a lot of infighting. i was pushing to get to ghe peo i thought were bad actors out of the white house. >> scare much che says the groups battled each other with leaks to the press. >> president trump on a war against leaks. >> leaks. >> leaks. >> scaramucci's goal, he says, to plug the holes. >> i was handling it more like a business ceo, more like an entrepreneur, less like a surreptitious political operat

. >>> plus white house steve of chaff john kelley says trump's pledge to build that wall was boss, theow the author of fire and fury worked his way into donald trump's west wing. we will talk to the reporter who first broke these details as the 11th hour gets under way on a wednesday night. and good evening once bane from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 363 of the trump administration and the former white house chief strategist steve bannon remains in the news as the man they want to talk to in the russia matter. one day after mueller subpoenaed bannon to appear before a grand jury a source close to him said he is cooperating with the special counsel and will be interviewed by mueller's team instead

. >>> plus white house steve of chaff john kelley says trump's pledge to build that wall was "not fullymed." how will that go over with his boss the president? >>> how the author of "fire and fury" worked his way into donald trump's west wing. we'll talk to the reporter who first broke these details as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a wednesday night. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 363 of the trump administration, and the former white house chief strategist steve bannon remains in the news as the man investigators want to talk to in the russia matter. one day after we learn special counsel mueller had subpoenaed bannon to appear before a grand

. >> according to foreign policy magazine, john kelley is either out of the loop or not being truthfuld another staffer dodging questions, hope hicks was supposed to testify before the house intel committee, and learning her testimony has at least temporarily been put on hold. i'm joined by nick ackerman, former adviser to hillary clinton. nick, there are some who see you as skeptical of the white house position on these issues, but i think it is fair to say lawfully that there can be legitimate claims to executive privilege, especially before the congress as opposed to mueller. do you see anything wrong with how this is going down? >> i see a couple things, first of all executive privilege does not apply to donald trump until january 21st 2017 when he was sworn in as president. there's no such thing as president-elect privilege, it's like saying there's attorney-client privilege, when somebody's in law school and they're not an attorney. it just doesn't make sense, there's lots of material to question steve bannon on prior to january 20th. that's the time period for example when micha

speaking of slippery places, at the white house the chief of staff, john kelley, is reportedly asking people who work at the white house whether or not they're planning to stay on the job through the end of the year. morale among staffers is reported to be low. why, i have no idea, seems like everything's going great. [ laughter ] a lot of trump staffers want out. in fact, this video captured outside the white house after an all-staff meeting. [ laughter ] seems to indicate there is some unrest. i think i saw melania in there. [ laughter ] president trump had his first cabinet meeting of the year today where, you're not going to believe this, he took time out to boast about the media's reaction to his bipartisan meeting yesterday with members of congress. >> got great reviews by everybody other than two networks who were phenomenal for about two hours. then after that, they were called by their bosses, oh, wait a minute. and unfortunately a lot of those anchors sent us letters saying that was one of the greatest meetings they've ever witnessed. >> jimmy: really. a lot of those anchors

. >>> plus white house steve of chaff john kelley says trump's pledge to build that wall was "not fullyill that go over with his boss the president? >>> how the author of "fire and fury" worked his way into donald trump's west wing. we'll talk to the reporter who first broke these details as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a wednesday night. good evening once again from our nbc news

te press was having an off the record session with white house chief of staff john kelley when the presidentpped in and made big headlines. the president saying the interview with the special counsel could happen in two to three weeks. president trump left the white house bound for switzerland. a couple of hours before appearing eager for possible interview with special counsel robert mueller. >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. >> just awe second. there's been no collusion whatsoever. >> you would do it under oath. >> i would do it under oath he said mr. trump was peeking hurried -- speaking hurriedly and arrangements are being worked out. trump open to granting citizenship to the d.r.e.a.m.ers after a 10 to 12-year period. >> i think it's ouri issuissue. i think it's better for the republicans than the democrats. >> back to negotiating a deal to address the fate of nearly 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. >> trump set a march 5th deadline to end the daca program protecting them from deportati n deportation. he's open to extending the deadline if a deal is

kelley will join us to discuss the possibility of a government shutdown. and new jersey democratic congresswoman bonnie watson coleman will talk about hawaii's false missile alarm and emergency preparedness and johnfton of gallup finding global approval of u.s. leadership has the undergone its largest ever single-year drop. watch "washington journal" at 7:00 eastern thursday morning and be sure to watch us saturday and southbound unday as we look president trump's inauguration and the woman's march on washington. >> this weekend, c-span takes us to new port rhode island and we'll explore new ports rich literary life and history. saturday at noon on book tv we'll visit the redwood library the oldest working library and peter kiernan on his book american mojo about restoring america's shrinking middle class. the middle class has been the centerpiece. it's our dna. it literally has become our central nervous system and when it prosper, the whole rest of the economy prospers and when it doesn't, what it tends to do is create sort of a bar bell effect where the two uncertainties are. a few people get really, really rich and the poor get really, really poor, and the balance between these two, the key s

john on how his views might have evolved about the physical wall with mexico. who is negotiating behind the scenes right now? we see this close relationship between the foreign minister and jared kushner and jill kelley. -- general kelly. amb. gutierrez: we are engaging with the full cabinet. we do have differences. they are open and public and known. i honestly think we are finding common ground on both sides. we are trying to reach an agreement on both sides. we have huge respect for general kelly. we engaged with him when he was the dhs secretary . said: president trump is to have discussed issuing that six-month withdrawal notice. what would mexico do then? amb. gutierrez: i think that is really not a good idea. we would not negotiate under those circumstances. we believe nafta can be improved. we want to have more and better jobs throughout north america and we think that is possible. minister, we have consensus around 40% of the issues already. we have difficult things to tackle in the future. we have very competent teams. also, the industry has spoken clearly to the government saying we care about this, go ahead and update it and improve it, but we want to continue with nafta in the future. sh