were you went from john kelly being here through 2022 he is out after the midterms? >> there are a lot of elements to it. i'm not sure the family ever enjoyed kelly style of controlling access to the president. that was a sling an arrow towards him. i think the president got frustrated that he was trying to be controlled in one way or another. in that interview that i did with general kelly, he was very honest. that is often the issue in washington that gets you in trouble. he may have gotten on the wrong side of the president on the way he described the wall, on the way he described it being paid for by mexico in different elements of that interview that perhaps the president didn't like. if you look back on john kelly service to the country as a marine general, his long service and believe that is homeland security secretar secretary ande house chief of staff he was continuing to serve the country. in the same vein as he did as a military man in uniform. obviously he lost a son in the war in afghanistan. he has served the country tremendously for a long time. he has

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. announcing who will be taking john's place. it might be on an interim basis. i'll announce that. john will be leaving at the end of the year. he's been with me almost two years now as you know between the two positions. but john kelly -- ready, are you ready? so john kelly will be leaving towards the end of the year, at the end of the year. i appreciate his service very much. thank you. thank you all. >> very short there. boris sanchez at the white house there. the president addressing a few things. you mentioned the chair of the joint chiefs. mueller actually saying he's happy about the way things are going. the way we are reading it. it's turning around very nicely. but that, you know, he really was beari iburying the lead on . it had been reported that they hasn't been speaking recently, that the relationship was rather tenuous. what are your sources telling you about their relationship and how it has crumbled or how this has led to -- how their relationship has led to -- >> fred, i

nothing is final, of course, until president trump himself announced john kelly is on his way out thee been predicting job kelly could leave at any moment. i have been told by people who know john kelly well and know the president well that it's no longer a sustainable relationship. >> i am not being glib here because we have seen reporting over the last year that john kelly is in his final days, and what makes this john kelly is resigning or fired story different than the other john kelly is resigning or being fired stories? >> that's a good question. we have been here before, where donald trump has actively been asking people who should be my next chief of staff, and the difference is john kelly and president trump are not speaking. maybe it seems to be a petty disagreement, and right now president trump and other aides inside the west wing fully realize they have a difficult two years ahead of them especially when democrats take over the house in january and they know they need to have everything together running that west wing that is why people feel it is different this time and

general john kelly is out. he will depart by year's end. let's go over to msnbc white house reporter geoff bennett who is traveling with the president. how are you? >> hey, philip, good to see you. the long resignation watch is over. here's the thing that people should know, the job of the chief of staff is certainly to represent the president's thinking and to push his agenda. it became harder and harder if not impossible for john kelly to do that given that the relationship between him and president trump had devolved to a point where i'm told the two weren't really even on speaking terms. their personal chemistry dissipated. because john kelly is seen as having moral authority within the white house, given he is a retired military general, part of a gold star family and because he devoted his life to public service, president trump when he talked to reporters was careful to make clear he was not firing john kelly. take a look at what the president had to say speaking to kelly o'donnell and other reporters in the last hour or so. >> so jo

now also john kelly.ving parts but that is to be expected heading into the third year of the trump presidency. >> as the camera was panning off it's interesting to note about the parlor game as you talked about, while nick ayres is at this point of parents and -- was the front runner for un ambassador, bill barr was a former attorney general everyone forgot about from the george w. bush administration. within 24 hours his name was rumored to be on the short list and then he was a nominated. be careful as we go through the next 48 hours of this game of the rumors you hear of who exactly is and is not in or out of the short list for chief of staff. at least the only name we have heard consistently mentioned is that of nick ayres. >> kristin: water tough job the chief of staff is. john kelly has received both a lot of praise and criticism for the job he has done after replacing the first chief of staff, reince priebus. not only do you have to manage all the people who work in the west wing, you also have to

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. nounce who will be taking john's place, it might be on an interim basis. john will be leaving at the end of the year. he's been with me almost two years now, as you know, between the two positions. we'll probably see him in a little while, but john kelly -- are you ready? -- john kelly will be leaves at the end of the year. i appreciate his service very much. thank you. thank you all. >>> okay. reaction once again? we're going to go straight to kelly o'donnell for the reaction, but as we were saying, it's been a challenging relationship between the president and his chief of staff throughout. so no surprise. the point is, and michael brought up who the replacement will be. >> a couple things are surprising. we have talked about the turbulent relationship, the different tenure for many, many many months. that's not the surprise. what is a surprise is the president would choose to announce it himself in the way he did. we had not yet been able to proempt him with a question. he wanted to

same thing with john kelly. it is not really a trump guy i think trump is past that, he is past feeling like i need to have people who have this impression. now what trump wants are people who are basically loyal to him and maybe actually just logistics. i think nick ayers certainly is not going to challenge the president as somebody -- he's not like a general or something like that. but he will probably implement the president's agenda in a pretty efficient manner and that is what the president wants. >> all right. we shall see. matt lewis, maria cardona, good to see you. >>> next, a new report about the relationship between jared kushner and the crown prince of saudi arabia. and the contacts they had following the murder of jamal khashoggi. it was here. i couldn't catch my breath. it was the last song of the night. it felt like my heart was skipping beats. they said i had afib. what's afib? i knew that meant i was at a greater risk of stroke. i needed answers. my doctor and i chose xarelto® to help keep me pro

john kelly is a patriotic american. john kelly is a responsible person. i have known him for many years. there is things he has done as chief of staff that i have criticized and disagreed with. but at the end of the day, the man is a responsible human being and i think anybody can get tired of baby-sitting president loco. look at his twitter feed today. this is somebody who is off his medications. >> paul? >> oh, no. everything is fine. all is well on the good ship titanic. the problem is not general kelly. donald trump is only three staffers away from a well run white house: the father, the son and the holy spirit. whoever he picks next, should general kelly go, and i do trust our reporting, is going to see the same thing. anybody who goes to work for him is going to wind up like this. john kelly, a man who has given his entire life in service to our country will believe diminished because of his association with donald trump. >> oh, god. i hope he writes a tell-all book. >> if in fact today is the day, what final lly pushed him to th point where he deci

john kelly was a witness to whatever was happening behind the scenes there. we know that don mcgahn has gone in multiple times to provide interviews with the special counsel. essentially what mueller wanted from kelly was to corroborate the information that he already had from mcgahn and other places. >> because he talked to mcgahn at length. the former white ouse counsel. the white house counsel's office initially fought the mueller request. >> what we were told is that when things change, when emmet flood came into the team in the white house, he was much more strict about who would and who would not talk to the special counsel's team, particularly when it comes to current white house staffers. what they, the mueller team had to prove was that john kelly is and would be the only person who could answer the questions they had. under those guidelines and parameters, that is when kelly was allowed to talk to the mueller tape. >> who are did they have to prove that? was there that a situation where the white house understood from mueller? >> the context of what

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perhaps withdrawing from nato, something thatjohn done, perhaps withdrawing from nato, something that john kellyrom nato, something thatjohn kelly strongly argued against and the troops being withdrawn from syria and afghanistan. he had opposed it will bear was then quickly announced soon after he announced he would leave the white house. whatever decision donald trump makes he is always fully briefed on the facts. do we have any idea of where the two began to go their separate ways? john kelly was keen to impress the part of his role, a big part of hisjob over the last 18 months was in spending long long hour was trying to give the president the fullest briefings he could so that decisions we re briefings he could so that decisions were based on the best intelligence, even though the president repeatedly said that he prefers to make decision on gut instinct, john kelly wa nts to decision on gut instinct, john kelly wants to defend his role in giving the president is much evidence to consider before making an important decision did in perhaps at that point, holding off from making a decision, ge

in his interview with the los angeles times, outgoing chief of staff john kelly talked about presidentall along the u.s./mexico border. he told the paper, quote, to be honest it's not a wall. kelly added the president still says wall. oftentimes he'll say barrier or fencing. now he's tended toward steel slats. we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration when we asked people what they needed and where they needed. lindsey graham met with the president for lunch yesterday. afterwards he told reporters that the wall has become a metaphor for border security. watch this. >> the president didn't commit, but i think he's very open minded. i know there's some democrats out there who would be willing to provide money for wall border security if we could deal with the daca population and tps people. what we're talking about is a physical barrier where it makes sense. in the past every democrat has voted for these physical barriers. >> joining us white house correspondent jeff bennett. let's talk a little bit about john kelly's open rebuke there to the president's border wall, c

that is something that john kelly did and is perhaps why john kelly did and is perhaps why john kellynd is perhaps why john kelly is now on his way. people are john kelly is now on his way. people a re interested john kelly is now on his way. people are interested in who will replace john kelly, someone with that independent voice who will be prepared to stand up to the president or someone who will be appointed more for their loyalty to donald trump? as that revolving door continues, who is likely to replace in? there have been some rumours, reported by the reuters news agency that mike pence's chief of staff could move over to the oval office. that is a man called nick ayres, he has apparently been very effective and very loyal working for the vice president mike pence. the president will seek a commitment that this chief of staff will stay until the election in 2020. we're not sure if nick ayres has been able to give that sort of commitment. it may be that sort of commitment. it may be that he takes over in the interim until a longer term replacement can be found. but donald trump

turns out it was real reporting and it looks like john kelly may be heading for the exits. >> john avalon, we often have talked in this administration. do you remember when kelly joined the administration. his appointment was welcomed as a moderating voice for this president. and we have seen over the course of the last several weeks the departures or the decline of some of those moderating voices, nikki haley being one. john kelly here. the relationship between the president and defense secretary james mattis supposedly reportedly not as close as it has been. who remains in this white house and is telling the president things he doesn't want to hear, trying to control some of his worst instincts? who remains? >> that's the key question because that access of adults you referred to. they were there to give him accurate information and then execute his orders. that's what john kelly has tried to do. it really leaves mattis at the pentagon, and it really is a question of who takes that role, who fills kelly's shoes? is it someone who is a real strong trump person who is never going to conte

john kelly served as chief of white house since 2017. ellison barber live at the white house, so ellison, tell us who the president will pick to replace general kelly. >> the president didn't announc

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. >> trump is pushing john kelly out the door. a 36-year-old multi-millionaire. kelly was tapped to bring -- they ramp up their investigation. already questioned john kelly an obstruction of justice probe. in an interview last month the president was clearly unhatch pi with john kelly. >> we get along well. there are certain things i love what he does. there are certain things that i don't like that he does. >> i will go to you first here. help us understand the timing. this was the grand experiment. he managed down not up. why is this happening now? >> i think he did do a better job here. i think the reason why now is he promised all of these after the midterm elections. it seems to be general clangs and all of these and i think the point is they said it is also about looking very. it is important to note too that donald trump keeps brings into his inner circle. i think it may have provided a comfort level as well. >> let's remember highlights. i think we can put pictures up on the wall. it is beginning when president trump delive

john kelly reinforce all of donald trump's worst partisan instincts. and i think that's, you know t we learned a lot about kelly that day that he set foot in the white house press breefzing room, stepped up to the podium and unleashed that unhinged tirade on representative wilson which turned out to be false. so in the end, it turned out that john kelly was not a very good truth teller which is of course one of the primary responsibilities of the chief of staff. >> okay then. if he's gone, jeff bennett, who's going to step in? word on the street as the reporting goes r nick ayers and who is he and who else might there be out there? >> so nick is the young ambitious, he's 36 years old. he's the current chief of staff to the vice president mike pence. he cut his teeth in georgia politics. he worked for governor sonny purdue's campaign and he's had a rise from there and because of that he's certainly earned a lot of critics some might say enemies in washington. that certainly goes along with the job here in washington but he's also viewed as a steady hand

thank you. >>> outgoing chief of staff john kelly giving that exit interview to the los angeles times, as geoff mentioned, this statement on the border wall. to be honest, it's not a wall, kelly said. later in the piece he's quoted as saying, the president still says wall, often he'll say barrier or fencing. now he's headed toward steel slats. but we loved selling concrete wall early on in the administration. going to writer for the l.a. times who interviewed john kelly exclusive. you have information to share with us in this article. let's start here with that wall quote. immediately generating headlines, it really stood out to me upon reading it. in what spirit did he say that? >> well, we were having sort of a larger conversation about some of the areas in which it seemed that there were distinctions between the positions of john kelly and the president. and sort of before he joined particularly the white house as chief of staff, as you know, he was secretary of homeland security, and he had expressed some views on some of the key immigration and border security issues that the pre

on the other piece of reporting on john kelly, questioned by the mueller team on this obstruction case. our cnn reporting is the resistance to kelly doing an interview represented a key turn by the president and his attorney who is had previously allowed special counsel to interview current and former white house staff and handed over hundreds and thousands of documents. i wanted to hone in on the word resistance. why would one resist a chief of staff from speaking to the special counsel? and the fact is it's not just someone who had been on the campaign. that is someone at the heart of the white house. >> i think there's two things that are important to think about. the first is that the whole trump approach to dealing with the special counsel's office changed dramatically about halfway through and this is about the time that that happened. so they were incredibly cooperative. you've seen don mcgahn met repeatedly with mueller's office and all of a sudden one day trump came in, changed lawyers and said no more cooperation. i suspect a big part of it is that. the second part is that mu

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this is about john kelly. this is the impossible job. kelly. "johnite the following -- kelly -- host: explain. after the first chief of staff was fired, who were close a lot of people advisers to the president, like a ivanka trump, jared kushner, felt like they needed someone would bedvise, and he able to instill a sense of order, get rid of the chaos, stop the leak in, giving way to the sense of chaos and paranoia. look backhink you can a couple months from now and say he has been successful. there are too many people for their to be powerful entries about. think a couple of the chaotic news cycles, a couple of the stories circle around him, and you have to wonder about mick mulvaney. why would anyone take this job? host: he appeared on nbc this morning, telling jonathan karl chief of staff daley white house staff, he is not going to change the president. guest: right. there is an old saying from the campaign folks "let trump be tru mp," that is the way to manage keep him is the way to happy. people who abide by vacuu that survived longer. at

president trump's chief of staff john kelly is leaving the administration. the four-star retired general replaced the president's first chief of staff, reince priebus, in july of 2017. the president told reporters the news as he left the white house this afternoon to go to the army-navy football game in philadelphia. >> john kelly will be leaving. i don't know if i can say "retiring," but, he's a great guy. john kelly will be l at the end of the year. we'll be announcing who will be taking john's place. it might be on an interim sis. i'll be announcing that over the next day or two. but john will leaving at the end of the year. >> sreenivasan: the president also said he thinks the russia investigation headedy robert mueller is "going very nicely."a joining us nowkype is newshour white house correspondent yamiche alcindor. the replacement of the chief of staff. is this expected? >> it wageexpected lar because for days now, we've heard that john kelly andid prt trump were not speaking, and this is really, in some ways,seremarkable, bec the chief of staff is su

guy, john kelly will be leaving at the ends of -- eend of the year. announcing who will be taking john's place. it might be on an interim basis. i will be announcing that over the next day or two. but john will be leaving at the end of the year. he has been with me almost two years now, as you know, between the two positions. so we're probably going to see him in a little while. but john kelly -- ready, are you ready? so john kelly will be leaving toward the end of the year, at the end of the year. and i appreciate his service very much. >> now, the announcement comes one day after cnn reported that kelly sat down with investigators from special counsel robert mueller's office and answered questions about alleged obstruction of justice. kelly's departure will come as the white house tries to navigate this new and potentially final phase of the russia investigation, and as the white house attempts to navigate a string of new personnel changes to the base of, the makeup of the administration, that including the attorney general, the u.n. ambassador and

john kelly will be leaving resign but i don't know if i can say retiring but he's a great guy john kelly will be leaving at the end of the here we'll be announcing who will be taking john's place it might be on an interim basis i'll be announcing that over the next day or two but john will be leaving at the end of the year he's been with me almost two years now as you know between the two positions so. we're probably going to see him in a little while what was trying to report says just a short time ago but to me how it looks at john kelly's time at the white house now . we just suarez general kelly crisis may have ended john kelly's time in the west way but the four star marine general was brought to the white house to restore order as president rather be here's president donald trump took him from his post just homeland security secretary in july of two thousand and seventeen he replaced the first chief of staff writes priebus thank you kelly's first order of business was firing communications director anthony scare mucci it on the job for just ten days for disparaging white house offi

john kelly will be leaving rita but i don't know if i can say retiring but he's a great guy john kelly will be leaving at the end of the here will be announcing who will be taking john's place it might be on an interim basis i'll be announcing that over the next day or two but john will be leaving at the end of the year he's been with me almost two years now as you know between the two positions so. we're probably going to see him in a little while a white house correspondent complete takes a look back at joel kelly's time as chief of staff we just watch. general kelly crisis may have ended john kelly's time in the west wing down with the four star marine general was brought to the white house to restore order as president probably years president donald trump took him from his post just homeland security secretary in july of two thousand and seventeen he replaced the first chief of staff writes priebus thanksgiving kelly's first order of business was firing communications director anthony scare mucci it on the job for just ten days for disparaging white house officials in a profanity

a white house without john kelly, what would that look like? i had the pleasure of interviewing leon panetta when kelly got the job. and he said we'll see how -- it will take time to see if john kelly is successful. he will not tolerate disorderly leaking and shenanigans behind the scenes but did say if president trump decides to hell with discipline, i'm over john kelly, we'll have a problem. it's hard to know if that's where we are right now because we don't have the straight story out of the white house. there's no way john kelly is staying. looks like he got a little ahead of himself. it's a white house that's desperately needing order. john kelly has done somewhat of an effective job and some say it's just an impossible task. no one can do it. >> the role of a chief of staff and high-ranking person inside the white house, john is it changing? democrats are taking control of the house. there are going to be committees with subpoena power launching all sorts of investigations. we're talking about the possibility that maybe democrats look at

he said john kelly is leaving and he would not call it a retirement. >> i am worried about john kellyeaving the white house. i think he was one of the people trying to influence the president not to fire mueller. there are concerns mueller may be on the chopping block. >> i am a fan of john kelly. he's a hardman to replace. no doubt about it. reporter report william barr was nominated for attorney general. >> he was a big supporter of the patriot act which lowered the standard for spying on americans. he went so far as to say the patriot act was pretty good, we should go much further. >> i think it's important to determine how he answers the question about the integrity of the mueller investigation. reporter: president trump says he plans to announce his pick to replace general kelly in the upcoming days. sources are telling fox news the top pick for the chief of staff is mike pence's current chief of staff nick ayers. thearthel: we'll bring in steven nelson from the "washington examiner." tell us more about william barr and his d.c. paid grow. >> he has been attorney general before.

why john kelly something john kelly did, and it is perhaps whyjohn kelly is now on his way.are interested in who will replace him. someone with an independent voice who will be prepared to stand up to the president? or who may be appointed more because of their loyalty to donald trump. as you say, the revolving door continues, who is likely to replace him? there have been some rumours reported by the reuters news agency that mike pence's chief of staff could move over to the oval office? that is a man called nick as, apparently been very effective and very loyal, working for the vice president mike pence. —— nick ayers. a a p pa re ntly apparently donald trump is going to seek an assurance that the next chief of staff can be there until 2020. he has not been able to give that assurance. he mightjust take overin that assurance. he mightjust take over in the interim until a long—term replacement can be found. donald trump has had some high—level positions to fill in the last few weeks. it will be a new white house tea m weeks. it will be a new white house team that takes on th

president trump's chief of staff john kelly is leaving the white house. it won't take long to pack up. the only thing in his office is a bottle of vodka and tylenol. >> you will lose credibility and spend every day being insulted by a 72-year-old 5-year-old. so many americans don't want the job. trump may have to let a mexican do it. >> i would like to throw my hat in the ring. who would pass up the chance to spend ten minutes on the deck of the "titanic" while it is sinking? i'm curious to hear what a band sounds like when they know they are about to take a bath. >>> global markets mostly higher as investors shrug off concerns of brexit. in asia, the nikkei is down. hang seng and shanghai closed higher. european markets higher in the early hours of trading. futures are lower on wall street. stocks hit lows on monday after theresa may said she would delay the crucial vote on the brexit deal. the dow fell 508 points on the brexit announcement. stocks staged recovery later in the day. the dow closed higher by 34 points. s&p closed up a fraction and nasdaq c

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evan, what do we know about the special counsel's questions for john kelly. what did robert mueller want for him? >> these were a narrow set of questions having to do with the obstruction of justice part of the investigation. they wanted to have kelly essentially corroborate testimony that they had already received from don mcgahn, the former white house counsel. there was an episode in the white house that said that the president had tried to get don mcgahn to order the firing of special counsel robert mueller. the president was angry about the news stories and wanted don mcgahn to refute the stories and he refused. kelly was witness to some of this. that's what the meat of this interview was about. especially for kelly to come in and corroborate what the special counsel already had from its own interviews and information as part of the obstruction investigation. >> for gets into a tricky constitution question. the executive trprivilege. did they say it was great or did they push back? >> emmet floods, the white house counsel refuse and said this is off limit

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. nnouncing who will be taking john's place. it might be on an interim basis. i'll be announcing that over the next day or two. >> president trump announcing yesterday that chief of staff john kelly is leaving, which means that in fewer than three years of being president, he will have had three chiefs of staff and, of course, there is really a tweet for everything. in 2012, three chiefs of staff in less than three years of being president, part of the reason why barack obama can't manage to pass his agenda, unquote. a tweet for everything, as always. let's talk about john kelly. are you concerned about his leaving? people think he brought some measure, obviously limited to a degree but some measure of stability. >> the lockdown general that trump respects didn't work. didn't work in controlling trump. i like the idea of someone who is a politician, someone who is respected by the president for his political instincts. that, to me, is the secret sauce of how to get the president to focus

all we have to do is ask john kelly and reince priebus.onald trump who wants to have that role. >> he's a communicator in chief, just like -- communications director. >> but people talked to you about that job before, david, and you have not taken it. it's a -- >> nobody has talked to me seriously about it. >> he would rather talk with me here more. >> i would rather be in a fight with jen every day. >> it is a challenging job. and ultimately, you have to be able to protect the president from his own worst impulses. you had a statement from speaker paul ryan saying that john kelly did do that, which makes, you know -- and brought a sense of order to the white house, which does make one wonder, what would the last year-and-a-half have looked like without john kelly. >> it certainly does. i don't think we should give john kelly too much credit. he did go with donald trump in some of the worst instinct moments we have seen over the last year-and-a-half of his tenure. but it is a role that is both serving the president and serving the staff. a

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. ing who will be taking john's place. it may be on ain't rim basis. zblfr president trump announcing yesterday that john kelly is leaving which means that in fewer than three years of being president he will have had three chiefs of staff and, of course, there real whycy a tweet for everything. take a look at what president trump and he tweeted in 2012 and three chiefs of staff. a tweet for everything as always. >> there are some measure, obviously limited to a degree. there is a trump respects didn't help. i like the idea of someone who is a politician, someone who is respected by the president for his political instincts. that to me is sort of the secret sauce of how you get the president to focus more on his agenda and the things that many of us have been telling the president to focus on. you appeal to his -- the political side. john kelly could never make that argument. mr. president politically you can't do this. who is john kelly to say and there are others who have a real strong

the outgoing chief of staff, john kelly, also not going out quietly. kelly in an interview with the "los angeles times" blasted former attorney general jeff sessions, suggesting sessions sprung something on the white house. and he told the "los angeles times"s, to be unhonest, it's not a wall, and now he is going towards steel slats, but we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration. just a few days ago president trump tweeted out the only way to solve an immigration crisis was through an old-fashioned wall on the border with mexico. and lindsay graham said he presented a potential idea to president trump that could end the shutdown. listen to this from the senator. >> the president didn't commit but i think there are open minded and i know there are democrats out there that would be willing to provide money for ba wallboarder security in exchange for the daca deals. >> reporter: there's something going through court, and there are 800,000 federal workers that are still furloughed or without pay, and president trump signed an executive or

look how trump treats john kelly, he was insulting rex tillerson. hue mill yates people. >> oh, okay, and this job isn't uh humiliating? every time i come out here you have me holding a chart of a penis or a butthole. i don't even tell my family i work here. they think i'm an intern for i.s.i.s. >> trevor: shit on this job all you want. the fact is you will never ever be chief of staff. simple as that. really? is that what you think? well guess what, buddy? i'm going down to washington and i'm going to apply right now! >> trevor: you're wasting your time, michael. you're a loser. you always will be. >> you just wait. the next time you hair from me, i'm going to the next chief of staff! hear that? ( applause ) so so long suckers! >> trevor: mic, everybody. -- michael kosta, everybody. ( cheers and applause ) the thing is, i'm not trying to be mean, but chief of staff, like, he will never ever be -- sorry. what's that? when? now? oh. wow. ladies and gentlemen, i'm getting breaking news -- michael kosta, former "the daily show" correspondent, has just

times with john kelly. let's listen to what she said, then we'll talk. >> clearly, he pushed back and defended his tenure, as can be expected, essentially saying he did the best he could to manage a chaotic white house with the family separation policy. for example, squarely placing the blame on attorney general jeff sessions saying he and others were surprised when the announcement was made. >> when i read through the interview yesterday morning, i felt as if john kelly was not forthcoming with what took place in the white house. he was asked pointedly about the situation from rob porter to the immigration crisis, all of it, across the board. do you feel like he was forthcoming and if not, why? >> kudos to the interview, it was interesting to have john kelly speak for two hours like that. >> yeah. >> he is mindful of his legacy and reputation. the rob porter example is one where many feel kelly mishandled and told him mistruths about a approach and what he learned at the domestic violence and so on. i thin

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year.aking john's place. it might be on an interim basis. i'll be flounsing that over the in exday auto or two, but john will be leaving at the end of the year. he has been with me almost two years now, as you know, between the two positions. we'll probably see him in a little while, but john kelly -- ready? are you ready? so john kelly will be leaving before the end of the year, at the end of the year, and i appreciate his service very much. >> okay. it's official. after reports of tension and that they weren't even on speaking terms, president trump announcing today white house chief of staff john kelly will be leaving his post by the end of the year. whoever trump picks next will be his third chief of staff. noteworthy because back in 2012 trump tweeted in. three chief of staffs in less than three years of being president. part of the reason why barack obama can't manage to pass his agenda. all this comes as sources at the time cnn kelly sat for an interview with mueller's team in recent

will replace john kelly. abc news reporter tara palmery with more. >> mick mulvaney to be acting white house chief of staff when john kelly leaves at the end of theier. the president tweeting i'm pleased to nouns mick mulvaney direct of the office of management and budget will be named white house chief of staff. i look forward to work are working with him in capacity. >> mulvaney tweeting this is a tremendous honor i look forward to working with the president and the team. it's a great 2019. the announcement coming hours after former governor chris christie declined the job in a statement saying it's an honor to be considered but now is not the right time for me or my family to undertake this serious assignment. the president's first kmois, nick ayers also declined the position saying he wants to move his family back to georgia. among the possible names mentioned as permanent replacements one time deputy campaign manager david boss se

but, clearly, this is a bit of an embarrassment here for john kelly because, remember, it was only a few months ago when kelly announced at a staff meeting at the white house that the president had asked him to stay on as the chief of staff, and he said he was going to be there all the way through the 2020 re-election campaign. that was an announcement that kelly made internally inside the white house knowing, of course, that it would leak to the press very quickly but to try to douse speculation in washington that he was on the outs with trump and that he would be leaving bup fast forward only a few months and now all signs point to him leaving. that's the signals we're hearing, at least from the white house at this hour. >> you can almost orchestrate it. first the leak. then the tweet. then there's the awkward leaving with your box of framed pictures photo. but let me go to chuck and joyce because everything i know about obstruction of justice i learned from the two of you. i understand it all centers around what the suspect's intent was. and i wonder -- kristen reported on some pub

concerns that mueller might be on the chopping block. >> i'm a huge john kelly fan.pefully it will be someone just as qualified tiered just as strong. >> that segues perfectly into who has next chief of staff is going to be. if that does indeed turn out to be true, either on on a full-term or interim basis, what sort of chief of staff do you think he would be? >> the president need somebody that has his confidence. needs to be a quarterback for the president's team. somebody that can manage well. somebody who can run the president's schedule. the corner of the realm is his time. if you want to see the president, you never will. that is basically the chief of staff's job to make sure the president is using his time as best he can. he has to work with investigations. he has to work with and international agenda. a political agenda. there is a lot on the plate of political. >> something that john kelly did not have to deal with. the house that is controlled by the democrat. how does that change? >> trying to get his agenda through with a democratic house. personally mak

that had been expected by some to be a farewell to john kelly.hat exact deadline is not out, but almost everyone seems to expect john kelly to be departing from his role in the coming days.ra ni: and who might replace him in that case?l: ni that he favorite is nick ayers, an aide to vice president pence. is considered a more political figure, someone with bett electoral antennae than john kelly, but he has his own rivals in the building. as always with the trump administration, it is not settled until it is settled. rajini: let's move ao we always doe president's tweeting. a tweet that caused ripples -- "mike pompeo is doing a great job. i'm very proud of him. his predecessor rex tillerson did not ha the mental capacity needed. he was dumb as a rock. i could not get rid of him fast enough. he was lazy as hell. now it is a whole new llgame." he does not hold back at all about his former secretary of state. niall: he certainly doesn't.i n't know really where to begin even commenting on that. soobviously it is nothing that any recent president would

will be leaving i don't know if i can say retiring but he's a great guy john kelly will be leaving atthe end of the year will be announcing will be taking john might be on an interim basis i'll be announcing that over the next day or two but john will be leaving at the end of the year he's been with me almost two years now as you know. so. we'll probably get to see him in a little while a white house correspondent committee how it looks back at john kerry's time as chief of staff. we just soiree general kelly crisis may have ended john kelly's time in the west wing but the four star marine general was brought to the white house to restore order his brothers rather be here's the president donald trump took him from his post as homeland security secretary in july of two thousand and seventeen he replaced the first chief of staff writes priebus thank you kelly his first order of business was firing communications director anthony scare mucci who'd been on the job for just ten days for disparaging white house officials in a profanity laced interview for a time kelley was described as the

that is why many people respected john kelly and many on the other side feared who may followjohn kelly. whether it will be somebody who can stand up to the president. at the moment we have an interim chief of staff and we are still awaiting a permanent replacement. polls are officially closing in the democratic republic of congo, where people have been voting for a successor to president joseph kabila, who's been in power 17 years. the election has been hit by a series of delays and marred by violence. the bbc‘s salim kikeke is in the capital with the latest. many of the 39 million voters registered in the democratic republic of congo would have voted by now. for those who haven't, some of the polling stations are still open for those who haven't had a chance to vote. it has been quite a challenge for the electoral commission. it has been quite a challenge for the electoral commission, they're using voting machines for the first time, but for the voters themselves, some have had an easy ride, walking to the polling station, cast their votes and go home. but for some, in a polling stati

john kelly will be leaving recess but i don't know if i can say retiring but he's a great guy john kelly will be leaving at the end of the here will be announcing who will be taking john's place it might be on an interim basis i'll be announcing that over the next day or two but john will be leaving at the end of the year he's been with me almost two years now as you know between the two positions so. we're probably going to see him in a little while our white house correspondent can be how takes a look back at john kerry's time as chief of stuff. we just soiree general kelly crisis may have ended john kelly's time in the west wing down with the four star marine general was brought to the white house to restore order as president probably years president donald trump took him from his post just homeland security secretary in july of two thousand and seventeen he replaced the first chief of staff writes priebus thanksgiving kelly's first order of business was firing communications director anthony scare mucci who'd been on the job for just ten days for disparaging white house officials in

let's look at john kelly first. he enlisted in the marine corps in 1970 and retired as a 4-star general. he was commander of the u.s. southern command, appointed the secretary of the department of homeland security in 2017. okay. that's the guy who might be leaving. the new guy, nick ayers is 36 years old. he ran sonny perdue's georgia gubernatorial campaign in 2016. he was the chief strategist on pence's re-election campaign and executive director of the republican governors association. >> joining us is jeff bennett. okay. a stark contrast between the two. just based on that resume, nick ayers sounds more like a political strategist. >> reporter: yeah. you're right about that. it may seem like distant history but when john kelly joined the trump administration in 2017, he was welcomed as a moderating force to be the one to instill some discipline on this free-wheeling white house. he was the guy to rein in donald trump's worst impulses. of course, that never quite materialized in part because the conventional wisd

well the exit of john kelly and have been rumored and talked about for a very long time and in fact the last couple days there were media reports that kelly was was about to leave his post in the next few days and that has happened now and the reason is that the chemistry between the president and kelly had deteriorated for a long time and they had that initially a good relationship but it has gone sour in s. as time moved on and so this this exit is just basically the last straw that broke the camel's back so to speak and when kelly started his his his tenure he was kind of deemed as one of the adults in the room so to speak to kind of try to curtail trump and try to bring order to the white house and as it turns out and people quickly learned trump doesn't really want to be controlled by kill you or by no one else and so this was just a matter of time until a trump and kelly parted ways but it's not actually so unusual for a president to reshuffle his cabinet often italian actions and it seems that business king see one insider to take on the chief of staff job so is this a case of bu

john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. ng that over the next day or two, butjohn will be leaving at the end of the year. he has been with me almost two years now, as you know, between the two positions. our correspondent dan johnson is in washington with the very latest. it had always been a tough job for john kelly trying to impose discipline and consistency on a white house that has been marked by heavy turbulence and high staff turnover. john kelly was the man sometimes at the back of the room with his head in his hand as donald trump spoke off the cuff albeit from the script once again. now the job ofa the script once again. now the job of a chief of staff is to tell the president thinks he does not want to hear. we don't know yet who will replacejohn kelly, whether it will be someone who can stand up to the president. by the change—up? there isa president. by the change—up? there is a new challenge in the new year. there is democrat controlled house of representatives that needs a new. . . of representatives that needs