what do you think of john kelly's statement saying he believes john bolton? >> i respect general kelly enormously. and i don't know what he is referring to. i believe john bolton -- i have not seen the manuscript. indiscernible] >> he said he breeves that. >> did john bolton talk about that? where does john bolton say that? >> john kelly says he believe -- >> where does john bolton say that? >> in a front of number of people. where did john bolton say that. where did john bolton say that? >> in front of cameras. >> john kelly. >> what did ambassador -- >> >> you are not answering your question. >> it's a very clear question. [talking over one another] >> i don't know that to be true and neither do you. i don't know what john kelly is referring to. what did ambassador john bolton say this week in advance of john kelly's comments. i hear about unpublished man you cripts that we haven't seen. you want me to answer a hypothetical. >> why don't you answer, why don't you answer that john kelly if the manuscript is true that he believes john bolton. >> you want me to

tillersoncmaster, rex and john kelly. mattis, i quote him as saying we have to make sure reason is not trump impulse. his view of donald trump is this is an impulsive guy. in some cases, i will not provide them, as is the case of the wargame. you can't have a wargame if the pentagon does not provide war planners. mattis refused to provide military options. house began to realize the pentagon was slow rolling, which the pentagon does with all sorts of things. in this case, it was clear. tis was concerned about getting into a war with iran and the middle east. even though he had been an iran skeptic, he thought the iran nuclear deal should stay in place not only because it was working but because we negotiated with her allies. the french and the germans, we should keep our word as united states. similarly with north korea, it is a fact that wars can happen inadvertently. a small incident can spiral into something much bigger and he did not want to take the risk. host: on iran, the planes were leaving when the president call

what do you make of john kelly's statements saying that he believes john bolton? >> well, i respect general kelly enormously. and like him personally. i don't know what he's referring to so i can't answer. in other words, that's just -- i believe john bolton -- i've not seen a manuscript and i will tell you -- >> president trump directly tied the aid to ukraine. >> he didn't say that. >> that's what john bolton said. >> did john bolton say that or are we talking about an unpublished manuscript? >> john bolton said -- >> where? where did john bolton say that? >> he said that in front of a number of people -- >> where did ambassador john bolton say that? no, no, no, back up. where did ambassador john bolton say that? >> it was in front of cameras. everybody saw it? >> john bolton or john kelly. >> john kelly said that in front of cameras. >> where did john bolton say that? you're not answering my question. i can't answer your question unless i understand it. >> it's a clear question. >> it's not clear at all. >> john bolton said in his book -- >> is that what you're

i know john kelly. john kelly and i worked together.al cell phone telling me he was going to go to be the chief of staff for the president and i remember what i said to him, i said, john, you must really love your country. and he said, yes, i do. he was confident that he had negotiated a situation that he could operate within. some day, john kelly will talk and it will be quite a tale to tell. the fact that he's a traditionalist about not speaking against the chief of staff, he is so grounded in the institutionalism of how the military operates with honor that he has not said a word. the fact that he said this tells you volumes about the -- his willingness to speak out at this point in history. >> this was apparently in a speech in sarasota this morning. every single time i was with him, he always gave the president the unvarnished truth, said kelly of bolton who's become a figure of intense interest. kelly goes on, john's an honest guy. he's a man of integrity and great character so we'll see what happens. i mean, half of americans thi

alter the outcome here because it's not anf impeachable offense. >> laura: wait a second, what does john kelly think about this?: i'm stuck on that. >> even if kelly -- it kelly was at a cafe, overheard someone else say -- oh, no. here is how house managers zoe lofgren reconciled her- about-face on impeachment. >> future presidents will face elections, than litigation, than impeachment. >> i look so young. >> that was 21 years ago. >> that was exciting, the ravages of time. republicans again took the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors," struck out the word high and replaced it with any and that was the problem that i was trying to address at that time. there was no high crime and misdemeanor. >> laura: you handled the clinton impeachment, is she right? it's different now. whatremember her then and she's saying now is the exact opposite. you've got to look at this with a sense of humor, it is funny to see these democrats twist themselves around in circles tryingse to explain why what thy said then is not really what they meant now. the only dangerous one in all of this, it isn't schiff or hak

at the same time the former white house chief of staff john kelly now weighing in on the john bolton'sions. according to the sarasota herald tribune, kelly says he believes bolton's allegation that the president told him that u.s. security aid was conditioned on an investigation into the president a president's rivals including the bidens. the paper says kelly told a crowd at a florida lecture. if john bolton says that in the book, i believe john bolton. i think some of the conversations seem to be very inappropriate, but i wasn't there, but there are people that were there that ought to be heard from. he also spoke to reporters and said this about john bolton's character. >> you may disagree with his politics or what he wants to -- what he wants to do with -- under certain circumstances, but john's a stand-up guy, and we'll see what happens. >> let's go back to dana bash, who's getting more reaction on capitol hill. what are you learning, dana? >> reporter: thank you, wolf, i am with the senator from indiana, senator mike braun. thank you for joining us. i was starting to tell you tha

john kelly was a loyal soldier literally and figuratively and said if it is went john bolton and donaldlieve john bolton. they are asked to push away the truth and render an acquittal on donald trump without witnesses. >> lots of ramifications. let me give you one. over the last 10, 20, 30, 40 years congress has seeded more authority to the executive branch. it is not that congress doesn't have authority. they've jut chosen not to use it. this is a wonderful example. they have one of the greatest powers in the constitution to impeach and remove a president who has abused his power. and now they don't even want to hear the facts. you know, i have no idea what mr. bolton will say or i don't precisely know what he will say. this may surprise you. i don't care. as long as he tells the truth. maybe it helps the president. maybe it hurts the president. maybe it does a little bit of both. that is what trials are for. to frank's point, we try cases in open court to come and sit and listen and watch and see the truth is adduced to the trial -- >> and we all sat together during the house impeachm

john kelly, the president's former chief of staff, we now learned said quote if john bolton says that in the book, i believe john bolton. in other words, the president's former chief of staff thinks the president is lying. that should always be of note. that should always be curious to any senator of any party. also curious is the president's statement overnight where the argument he makes against john bolton testifying is frankly dishonest, right, the president tweeted quote, why didn't john bolton complain about this nonsense a long time ago when he was very publicly terminated. he said not that it matters. nothing. that's a lie. john bolton did complain about this repeatedly for months. >> according to sworn testimony from witnesses. >> according to sworn testimony under oath have testified, fiona hill, the drug deal, john bolton called this a drug deal. he broke up white house meetings about this because he was unconfidentable abou uncomfortable about it. he made several peeps. he hasn't testified under oath and joe lockhart, despite mitch mcconnell saying he doesn't have the vote

john kelly is a retired four star general. ealt with the good and bad as chief of staff for 17 months. he knows john bolton very well over many, many years. he says, quote, if john bolton says that in the book, i believe john bolton. he's well affair president trump today called john bolton a liar. how significant is this? >> the honest to god truth is i don't know how significant it is because i would guess that most of the republican members of congress who have known john bolton for decades also probably believe that he's telling the truth. at this point, i think that the case has been proven and bolton's comments in the book don't come as a great surprise to anyone. and, you know, now as you and adam schiff were discussing, they're looking for an off ramp because they just want this thing to end. so, it's a matter of rationalizing the behavior rather than denying that it happened. so, you know, obviously it's important former chief of staff who had a lot of experience with trump as you mentioned, but let's face it, donald t

but john kelly, interestingly enough, i think was somebody who was the guide rails when he was chief of staff, to the president, and i think he sees john bolton as a key figure trying to do that as well when he was in the white house. >> not to be a broken record here, but if john kelly believes john bolton, then the president's former chief of staff is saying publicly he thinks the president is lying. i don't think we should ever gloss over. i don't ever think that's a small thing. it's a big thing confronting senators. i want to play sound. first of all, democrats that's interesting too, treating him like bobby kennedy is fascinating to see, because he was one of the more reviled men. this is republicans, his friends turning on him. >> john bolton himself has been reduced to a tool for the radical dems and the deep state. >> clearly he's trying to sell a book. how much does it cost to sell out potential national security in your country. >> i would say that he's a witness very interested in making a lot of money right now. i think we have to take with a grain of salt his testimony i

they don't have to take john kelly's word for it. they don't have to take the president's word for it, they can make their own judgment, but they can't do that if they refuse to even hear what he has to say. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> at the conclusion of today's trial, senate republicans met to discuss what's next. following that meeting we heard from senators ted cruz of texas and lindsey graham, judiciary committee

former white house chief of staff john kelly. he said if john bolton says in that book -- what he says in that book, i believe john bolton. and he added this -- >> may disagree with his politics or what he wants to do with -- under certain circumstances, but john's a standup guy. >> some are suggesting the white house could invoke executive privilege to keep bolton from testifying. house democrats argue the president waived executive privilege by directly denying bolton's allegations. >>> to the coronavirus now. the number of confirmed cases in mainland china has exceeded that of sars. officials say there have been nearly 6,000 cases. up more than 30% in a day. that includes 132 deaths so far. about 200 americans evacuated from wuhan, china, are in the air right now, including u.s. diplomats and their families. they will land at a military base near riverside, california, instead of a civilian airport as first planned. while those americans leave china, others are preparing to go there. cnn's david culver joins us live from beijin

have you john kelly, former chief of staff, who is obviously highly respected and knows both player. just saying i believe john bolton because i like john bolton. in a scenario where president trump is saying one thing and john bolton is saying another thing, i believe john bolton. >> it's too early to predict what's going to happen friday. obviously, some people are still making up their minds. the q & a period will make a difference for what they do friday. if you're dreaming of a scenario where you halt bolton in there and that's it, the white house will want to call their own witnesses, bidens, adam schiff, whistle-blower. they have a long list of people they might call. that would essentially plunge the senate into some sort of no man's land of indefinite witness calling. i think that's a pretty good argument against doing it at all if you're trying to keep your conference together. >> do you think that's possibly why the white house is making that argument, that they're saying -- just as they said there would be a long, nasty court battle there's some who said that could be tryi

not be on the same policy page as democrats don't have to take john kelly's word for it and if they refuse to what he has to say. >> i am glad to see today the white house defense team concluded their opening arguments and now looking to tomorrow or senators can ask questions of the lawyers for both sides the chief justice will be will preside we have eight hours of that and then the next day. i am hopeful we can -underscore a number of the serious deficiencies the house managers have made at this point. i think it is clear the house managers failed to meet their burden. they failed to demonstrate and impeachable offense. with high crimes and misdemeanors i am confident at the end of this process the president will be acquitted. >> the witness vote could be close we came from a conference there was vigorous discussion and debate on whether additional witnesses are needed. poorly a lot of folks in the press have been saying there will be witnesses that's not what they are voting on. there are subpoenaed witnesses we have heard witness testimony throughout the proceeding on the house side an

john kelly saying he believes john bolton.resident trump loved the fact john kelly had been in the military and his ordererness and, well, he got sick of him and turned on him, too. i worked with john kelly and he was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great president. stephanie grisham, the press secretary. these are not isolated incidents. this is a few. rex tillerson said the crown jewel of his initial cabinet of secretary of state, dumb as a rock and lazy as hell. steve bannon one of the architects of trump's victory. sloppy. and one of his biggest advocates, he should be attorney general general. and michael cohen, bad lawyer and fraudster. not only does he turn on everyone, we're talking not about small jobs, we're talking about secretary of state, secretary of defense. national security advisor. he trusted these people with some of our nation's most important tasks and now suddenly saying they were always bad. back to you, guys. >> thank you very much. >> i'm wolf blitzer live in washington alongside jake ta

i don't know john bolton, i do know kelly.f kelly says he believes bolton, i believe general kelly. it's one of those questions, who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? general kelly was in that office. he saw how the president conducted himself. if you go to the real issue of general kelly saying this, general kelly is saying i don't believe the president, i believe john bolton. i believe john bolton because i have been with the president, i have seen how he has operated and that's why i'm saying that bolton is telling the truth if he said that. >> and that's significant because john kelly we know chooses his words very carefully and hasn't said all that much yet since leaving. william cohen, secretary cohen, we appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you very much. >> thanks very much for inviting me on the show. i can only say -- well, i can see my time is running out, as they say to the candidates, but i think we put john kelly and say why would john kelly say he believes bolton if he doesn't understa

and you also talk about you also show between 2017 and 2019 the former general mattis john kelly and general dunford and although not a general officer, when they were there , basically they numbered successes, basically they numbered successes look at 2017 it is much better than it was then right now. trump actually to his credit set off operations against isys changed the authorities and then to be micromanaged and also live cap on the troops and then we have three helicopters to have any coverage at all. to leah - - lend support on the kurds and to have debated that for so long by the time they found that exclusion they knew they violated the terms. so there was a small american of ground forces if you got that right you also with the use of chemical weapons china i think you know that when historians write the history even if the tactics on trade have been questionable it is the defense strategy of matters on - - general mattis that china has to go with the south china sea and with that they have more freedom of navigation. and to take a more respectful line with the chinese. >>

the revelation of john bolton and what he has to say the very relevant probative quality of the testimony as i'm sure you have seen the president's own former chief of staff general kelly says he believes john bolton and more j importantly that is extraordinary of itself the chief of staff believes john bolton in that implication does not believe the president of the united d states that he worked closely with for such a long time but he also recognizes the importance of calling john bolton as a witness to swear him in and that senators hear from him themselvesst that very relevant testimony. the president's lawyers today and in prior presentations cannot defend the president on fax instead they went through a list of grievances which i'm sure the president was delighted to hear but not relevant to the charges against the president here today to use their time to smear the bidens with the whole ukraine scheme to attack the managers but as far as the facts themselves although at their disposal any agency officials who worked with the president this whole period of time did they choose to rely on any of them to support the president's position and the answer is a not a s

but on monday, trump's own former chief of staff general john kelly said "john bolton says in the book, i believe john bolton." more later in the broadcast. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is moving toward annexing 30% of the occupied west bank after israel was given the green light to do so by the united states. on tuesday, president trump, with netanyahu by his side, unveiled a so-called middle east peace plan drafted by trump's son-in-law jared kushner without any input from palestinians. under the plan, israel will gain sovereignty over large areas of the occupied west bank, jerusalem, would be under total israeli control, and all jewish settlers in the occupied territory would be allowed to remain in their homes. palestinians protested against the plan. this is palestinian president mahmoud abbas. >> i say to the partners, trump and netanyahu, jerusalem is not for sale. are not forights sale and not for bargain. conspiracy, will not pass. amy: only hours before the plane was announced, netanyahu was indicted for corruption, marking the first time in israel's history a si

and one of those is the president's former chief of staff, john kelly. these two men did not always see eye to eye, but john kelly was at an event and he said if john bolton says that in his book, i believe john bolton. he also went on to say that john bolton was a man of great character. just interesting to see who is stepping up to take which side. >> from personal experience, i understand this dynamic. from bolton's standpoint. and trust me, he knew this would come before he broke rank. he understood what trump was capable of and still is capable of. and so he calculated that when he made his decision. other people around him know, kelly certainly knows the situation. so i think that trump is actually putting more spine in bolton and his determination to do what he thinks apparently is right or protect himself from -- >> and what will that look like? what does john bolton think is right? he's going to wait until he's subpoenaed? >> he's going to tell the truth. but he could do that today. >> he might do it outside the forum. and that would put it out

john kelly, john bolton, listen to what they said yesterday when they talked about the john bolton manuscript which they never ever really conceded they received at a certain date. it will contain top-secret information and couldn't be released to the american public. excuse me if i am suspicious, the john bolton manuscript is in the same desk drawer as the president's tax returns. and 7 irs audit, he is going through security audit that i'm sure will not be completed until after this trial is over. now we have john bolton's professed decision the president told him he was doing this, withholding funds from ukraine for political purposes which will be held back from the american public as long as possible. john bolton should be testifying. what we heard yesterday from those on the other side was the continuing position that this is going to be something like a trial without witnesses and evidence. the american people know a lot more about the trial than that and certainly understand there is no trial without evidence and witnesses and john bolton, mick mulvaney in two others should be starter

and the judges of the law and not be on the same policy page as democrats don't have to take john kelly's word for it and if they refuse to what he has to say. >>

there a lot of tweets these days, john kelly, john bolton. listen to what they say when talking about the john bolton manuscript which they never conceded they received. a manuscript containing top-secret information and couldn't be released to the american public. excuse me if i'm suspicious but the john bolton manuscript is in the same desk drawer is the president's tax returns and 7 irs audit federal bolton took through security. and it will not be completed until after the trial. now we have john bolton's position that the president told him, withholding funds from ukraine for political purposes which is held back from the american public as long as possible. john bolton should be testifying. what we heard yesterday from those on the other side is continuing position that this is something like a trial without witnesses and evidence. the american people know a lot more about the trials and that and certainly understand there is no trial without evidence and witnesses and john bolton, mcilvain in two others we mentioned should be starters.

one recent development that hasn't been highlighted or discussed today, and that's the general john kelly who is the former chief of staff to president trump has publicly said he believes john bolton. i'd like folks to focus on what that means. what that means is that knowing former national security adviser john bolton is alleged to have said president trump did order him to withhold aid to ukraine in order to try and leverage a baseless investigation by ukraine, this means that a former chief of staff was in the room and witness behavior by the president that would strong support a conclusion that that justice -- is just the thing that president trump does. >> and it does reach the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. >> something that's been debated at great length today. in fact, that's one of the most recently discussed questions. i do think the weight of history, contractual evidence of an all previous impeachment suggest abuse of power is an appropriate standard for impeachment and removal. did you have one more question? >> are you nervous about -- [inaudible] may be trump had m

it's as big as i've seen any republican president. >> he has far more political power than john kelly, these are not strong political figures. >> let's talk about lisa murkows murkowski. >> let me read a little bit of her statement, and john i want you to walk me through. there are two republicans who will vote in favor of witnesses, mitt romney and susan collins of maine. lisa murkowski will vote no, which is significant. here's one of the things she says given the partisan nature of this impeachment from the very beginning and throughout, i have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the senate. i don't believe the continuation of this process will change anything. it is sad for me to admit that. as an institution the congress has failed. it has also become clear some of my colleagues intend to further politicize this process and drag the supreme court into it. she's very tough on this issue of the supreme court and the chief justice specifically. it sounds like that may have been her reason. she didn't want a 50/50 tie, which would have dragged the chief justice

. >> and former white house chief of staff john kelly said he believes john bolton's report of the ukraineaga speaking to a crowd in florida on monday. kelly commented on the bombshell revelations which are reportedly included in the former national security adviser forthcoming book that president trump told bolton that releasing aid to ukraine hinged on whether they investigated his political rival. quote, if john bolton said that in the book, i believe john bolton every single time i was with him he always gave the president the unvarnished truth. amid the calls to testify in the impeachment trial, kelly said, i think if there are people could contribute to this either innocence or guilt, they should be heard. speaking to bolton's character the retired marine corps general added, quote, john's an honest guy. he's a man of integrity and great character. >> i just want to add to this, let's not forget, back in october, this is the same johnically who said he had a conversation with the president when he was chief of staff who said if you surround yourself with yes men, then you will face i

i found it remarkable john kelly the chief of staff of the president last night says i believe john bolton. every time he gave the president the truth. that's a striking thing for a guy who worked for the president in the oval office to say. >> the views that bolton has are views that other people within the cabinet share. at least according to what will be in the book. we reported today a conversation he had with the attorney general barr in which bolton expressed concern he had about the way trump was dealing with foreign countries on investigations and the book as we reported says that barr agreed with him on something like that. barr has been a chief ally and defender. so that gave us a peek into what other folks around the president who work with him on a daily basis and directly for him may have to say about how they actually view the way he's conducted himself as president. >> well said. thank you so much. i want to bring in law professor. former new york congresswoman. and author of the new book out today. which is excellent. why we're polarized. which is germane to what's going on

now the president's former white house chief of staff, john kelly, saying i believe john bolton, this has sent this entire senate trial into an open question about what will actually happen. so our coverage will continue on our 24-hour streaming network, cbsn, watch it at cbsnews.com, or your cbs news app. there will be more on your local news on this cbs station, and we will have a full wrap-up on tonight's "cbs evening news." this has been a cbs news special report. i'm norah o'donnell, cbs news, washington. now. >>> breaking news at noon, the san francisco public works director reportedly arrested by the f.b.i. good afternoon. >> the breaking news, san francisco public works director mohammed has been arrested by the f.b.i. >> the arrest is coming on suspicion of public corruption. and we have public trust fraud, and nick, she's the owner of lefty he deal's who is part of the investigation. they are going to release details at a press conference at 1:30 this afternoon. wail have the latest online and live streaming on cbsn. >>> and another breaking story we're following right now,

. >> former white house chief of staff john kelly says he believes john bolton's reported account of the ukraine saga should be heard. speaking to a crowd in florida on monday general kelly commented on what bolton reportedly reveals in his forthcoming book, that president trump told bolton that releasing military aid to ukraine hinged on whether the country investigated the president's political rivals, including of course joe biden. according to the sarasota herald tribune kelly asserted this, quote, if john bolton says that in the book, i believe john bolton, adding, quote, every single time i was with him he always gave the president the unvarnished truth. the growing calls for bolton to testify at the impeachment trial kelly said this, i think if there are people that could contribute to this, either innocence or guilt, i think they should be heard. i think some of the conversations seem to me to be very inappropriate but i wasn't there. speaking to bolton's character the refired four star marine corps general added, quote, john is an honest guy. he is a man of integrity and grea

. >> john kelly says he believes him. they're saying it doesn't matter.n kelly says he believes him. lindsey graham saying -- >> it doesn't matter. because you said what if there's audio of trump saying this. it doesn't matter because they've gone to, oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway. either way, they get to their predetermined conclusion. >> pat cipollone showed old video of democrats arguing against the clinton impeachment. >> they were right then, and they're right now. i'll leave you with some of those words. >> there must never been a narrowly voted impeachment, supported by one major party and opposed by the other. >> by these actions, you would undo the free election that expressed the will of the american people in 1996. >> the republicans are crossing out the impeachment standard of high crimes and misdemeanors, and inserting the words any crime or misdemeanor. >> the constitutional provision for impeachment is a way to protect our government and citizens, not another weapon in the political article. >> history will show we've broken the seal o

there's another example high up in my story where the president and his then-chief of staff, john kellyre getting ready to tour the u.s.s. arizona and the president asked what exactly is this all about? and it's explained in the book is the president seemed to understand the basics of pearl harbor, a historic battle. but he didn't seem to have the full underpinings. and at times the president was dangerously uninformed. >> it will take me more time than i have to think of anything to say about that. i want to move on to anecdotes. socio pathic conduct towards women. trump was verbally and emotionally abusive towards homeland security secretary nielsen. according to the book he made fun of her stater and believed at 5'4", she's not physically intimidating. kelly would rip her and say but you've got those little firsts of fury. seriously? >> there's that moment in the book. you mentioned the president's treatment of women. one other i wrote about and this is the staff secretary, rob porter, is forced out amid allegations of domestic abuse from his previous two ex-wives and the president o

last night john kelly who of course spent a lot of time in the white house, knows the president well,es. fancy that. with this news, there are discernible cracks in the republican wall. the republican caucus is clearly on the defensive about all this. trump ally senator lindsey graham said he let him view the book in a classified setting. kind of funny because it will be out in the public in a few months. some moderate republicans have been much more receptive to full-on witness testimony. susan collins said it is likely she will vote to hear witnesses. lisa murkowski said she wants to hear bolton's account. mitt romney said he wants to hear from john bolton. in a private republican caucus meeting tonight that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell told his caucus that right now he does not have the votes to block impeachment witnesses. joining me now from where things stand on this in the senate, robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post." a lot of conflicting reports and conflicting characterizations i think in that kind of way of what went on in that meetin

you have former white house chief of staff john kelly saying, i believe john bolton.d and you say you're confident the witnesses won't be -- >> they're going to come up with -- the democrats, this is just like heaven. the democrats are going to come up with something new every day to keep this going on forever. the house democrats said they had overwhelming evidence. this was their impeachment. we didn't bow in the senate to do this impeachment. they had all the time, and remember, they are the ones who elected not to go to court, not to call these people, not to go ask for documents. they are the ones who did it, not the republicans in the senate. the house democrats do. >> bret: even though we are reporting that mcconnell has told g.o.p. senators he does not have the votes, you are convinced that he will, you all well, and that it is defensible to not have witnesses in this environment? >> here is what i think, we have two more days of questions and answers. i believe we are going to make the decision not to ask for witnesses. because it is not our job to prove the

john kelly had his approach, they all had their approaches.is just a sort of say yes. mike feuer right. i wouldn't really want to be married to him. [laughter]. . . .

i want to share with you the statement from john kelly the former white house chief of staff. he is interviewed by nj advanced media in new jersey. he is scheduled to appear at drew university on february 12th. when asked about john bolton and impeachment he said, quote in my view, they kind of leave themes open to a lot of criticism. i would be a half trial. also point out at john bolton is a copious notice taker, calling him an honest guy and an honorable guy. the book scud field be released march 17. in etch excerpted have been leaked to "the new york times" including news there was a meeting in may that included pat cipillone the president's lead defense lawyer and white house counsel. mage has that story are it's available online at ny times.com. jim in minneapolis on the issue of withs. what do you say? >> caller: well, i'm a life-long independent and i watched all of the house proceedings and from what i understand the house proceedings are merely like a grand jury investigation where they refer charges to the senate for trial. now in the senate, i believe there should b

el jefe de gabinete john kelly dice que le cree a bolton. al presidente trump. pablo: el presidente trump ha dejado claro que no quiere que john bolton testifica. sin embargo, la mayor parte del pueblo estadounidense no estÁ de acuerdo. la Última encuesta indica que el 75% de los estadounidenses quiere que haya testigos en el juicio, contra un 20% que no. >> trump estÁ muerto de miedo de enfrentarse a mÍ en las elecciones. pablo: afirmÓ joe biden, el lÍder político invitÓ al ex socio dedo rudolph giuliani. dice que las elecciones demÓcratas pero no puede acudir porque no se permiten aparatos electrÓnicos, Él tiene un grillete. los abogados de trump fungieron a los senadores a declarar inocente a suplente, porque segÚn ellos es lo que requiere la constituciÓn. enrique: durante un evento polÍtico en new jersey, el reciente trump presumiÓ de tener una buena relaciÓn con el gobierno de mÉxico. el presidente lÓpez obrador era un buen amigo, que hace un buen trabajo. de hecho, dijo trump, mÉxico estÁ pagando por el muro. la secretarÍa de gobernaci

in fact, john kelly until recently said this morning that he believes bolton's account. i don't think you could have a better statement of belief than from the president's chief of staff than what you are seeing is that anyone who testify against the president, going to say he is lying and we have to keep them away from testifying but if we can't keep them away from testifying, they must be lying. this is just nonsense. [indistinct question] >> first of all, in terms of subpoenaing john bolton, we could have subpoenaed him, but we subpoenaed his deputy first and his deputy sued us and it was very clear that john bolton would tie us up in court for months or years and his lawyer made that crystal clear so there was little to be gained. he had made it clear at that point with respect to other witnesses that we had subpoenaed who are refusing to come and that we were not going to play this game endlessly in the courts and allow the president essentially to obstruct the congress with impunity which is what he attempted to do by saying he was going to fight off subpoenas. so

senate, they are deliberating and meanwhile, john kelly the former chief of staff says, yeah, you knowhat, john bolton is probably telling the truth and i think that the president was up to something. and john bolton in "the new york times" story today gave more information from the book. what is bold and sank? he was in a meeting not only with the president saying put pressure on the ukrainians, but also putting now the president's lawyer in that meeting. he started to think to yourself, yeah, there is more coming. >> greg: bombshells. >> juan: no, it reminds me specifically of what we heard from lamar alexander when he announced he would not vote for witnesses. the democrats proved their case, but you know what, yeah, it's excessive, it's not good behavior but i'm not going to vote for impeachment. you think, what is going on? if all institutions in the country, have they gone to hell? >> jesse: don't destroy the institutions of this country x back >> juan: i think donald trump is doing a good job. >> dana: the senators are at the jurors, and if they want to go home, what should they

john kelly dijo hoy que son es un hombre honesto, Íntegro y que le cree.para hacer preguntas. luego el viernes se darÁ paso al voto en relaciÓn a los testigos. mientras continÚan las pugnas partidistas, este dibujante le da al mundo una rara visiÓn de lo que pasa detrÁs de cámaras. hay mÁs emociones en este juicio polÍtico, nos dice bill, dibujÓ cÓmo reaccionan los senadores, sus expresiones faciales y se presta atenciÓn o no, arte imitando vida e historia en la cÁmara del senado. ilia: hacemos una breve pausa. cuando regresemos, el gobierno de california advierte sobre las consecuencias negativas de la medida de carga pÚblica para los inmigrantes y dice que seguirÁ retándola en la corte. jorge ♪ jorge: las autoridades de california advirtieron que la aplicaciÓn de la deuda de carga pÚblica tendrÍa efectos devastadores. ilia: la mayorÍa conservadora de la corte suprema. a favor de esa norma y ahora el gobierno del presidente trump otra aplicarla. jorge: el gobierno de california anunciÓ que seguirÁ vetando la decisiÓn. luis: no son las noticias que muchas

what about what john kelly is saying now and why? we also have brand new video of kobe bryant's helicopter and the moments before it went down. they are still trying to figure out why so much life, so many families were destroyed. did it have to happen? plus, we have new emotional sound from shaquille o'neal tonight. and we have the brother of this great coach that was lost in this tragedy all part of remembering who was lost. >>> so, the majority leader reportedly doesn't currently have the votes to block witnesses from being called because some on his side remain uncommitted. one little step to the side for a moment. hold on. the idea that after you learn that the main prong of the president's case, which is what? nobody even says he did anything wrong. this is all on the side and the speculation. pretty compelling. now you have a guy who was in the room, hence the name of his book, saying the president told me he was holding up the aid because he wanted to get the bidens. can you really, in good conscience, say that you came to a

john kelly yesterday said he thinks john bolton is telling the truth. what bolton has reportedly written in the book is consistent with a lot of other testimony that we are hearing. what i've heard is that a number of republican senators are saying look, if we don't hear from him as part of this trial and his book comes out in three months and has even worse information for the president, we need to get it out now. if we vote to acquit him or vote not to have witnesses in his book comes out, that's a problem for us. one thing yesterday that a lot of democrats are picking up on, her home state, the caucuses on monday. she said caucus goers in iowa, they may change their minds about joe biden. they may be changing their minds based on what we are putting out about joe biden. that's a paraphrase. a lot of democrats are saying wait a second. you are using this to hurt joe biden politically? that's what would been accusing you of doing. she gave the game away publicly. that's an interesting piece of this. >> melissa: meanwhile, three vulnerable democrats rep

. >> reporter: still, the president's former chief of staff john kelly is backing bolton's account, saying if john bolton says that in the book, i believe john bolton. overnight harvard's defense team with harvard law professor alan dershowitz downplaying claims >> nothing in the bolton revelations, even if true, would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense. >> reporter: and today blasting the democrats' case. >> what they are asking you to do is to throw out a successful president on the eve of an election with no basis and in violation of the constitution. >> reporter: late tonight after meeting with senate republicans, mitch mcconnell appears to be holding the line within his party for the moment there are not four republican votes to call witnesses. that means if it sticks, president trump could be acquitted by this weekend. lester >> all right peter alexander, thank you. >>> as the impeachment drama unfolds, president trump unveiled a controversial middle east peace plan today day the israeli prime minister was indicted backe. he >> reporter: two embattled le

when i was there-- >> reporter: speaking in sarasota last night, former white house chief of staff john kelly said, "i believe john bolton." rudy giuliani does not. >> he's a backstabber. >> reporter: the president's personal lawyer spoke to catherine herridge today for "cbs this morning." >> he never said to me, i've got a problem with what you are doing in ukraine. never once. never winked, never sent me a little note. >> reporter: with pressure mounting for bolton to testify, oklahoma republican james lankford proposed today that senators be allowed to read bolton's manuscript first and then decide. >> that sounds like a reasonable solution to me. >> what an absurd proposal. >> reporter: democrats called it a stalling tactic. as a start, would you like the see the balk and see exactly what bolton said? >> nothing is a substitute for a witness under oath in person testifying. that's what we want. >> o'donnell: and nancy joins us from the hill tonight with a new development, as republicans just came out of a meeting where they discussed witnesses. nancy, what can you tell us about what happe

john kelly, who said i believe john bolton, and he is on his others. i don't think it is the truth at -- >> harris: lindsey graham said that yesterday. if you pick on john bolton, you will get to the point where everyone wants to hear from that witness. >> melissa: the point lindsey graham was making was let's stipulate that what john bolton is going to say is that he wanted to investigate the bidens. and he made a very good case, lindsey graham did, of why anyone with half of a brain would want to investigate what happened with them when you have joe biden controlling money to the ukrainians, saying the day for correction is over at the exact same second that his son is getting $3 million. that's coming you know, undercutting american interests at the entrance of your family. >> lisa: he said that the president had deep-rooted concerns about corruption in ukraine, which is consistent with what we had heard from the legal defense team. look, we have heard from witnesses. they spent 17 witnesses, over 100 hours and testimony appeared we don't need to he