i know john kelly. he was with me. didn't do a good job. had no temperament. ultimately, he was petered out. he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't even able to function. i am confident that jay has the wisdom and leadership to guide our economy through any challenges that our great economy may face. i had my situation with powell, and i beat the hell out of him. i was not a fan of powell. he was recommended by some people. i didn't like him.

wholeheartedly, john kelly has nailed it.in fact, today i was in court over at 60 center street on the case where i'm taking donald trump, the trump organization to trial. my trial starts next month, because they refuse to pay legal fees that are out. so yeah, donald trump does not pay. he will fight you all the way to the ends and like i say like a petulant child he will keep sticking his finger into that sockets until it really hurts. now, donald, i'm not talking -- that's metaphorically for donald, what really hurts is when you hit him in the pocketbook. very much like what eugene carroll did. now what did he do? again, you're so right about that. he does not accept accountability. so, he goes out less than 24 hours after being hit with a 5 million-dollar verdict, he ends up going out on cnn town hall with caitlin collins and he says the same thing again and again. and now she's going to re-file an additional claim against him. unless you hit him hard in the pocket, donald trump doesn't understand accountability. >> we are

i join a great list of americans like mick mulvaney and john kelly, and all the rest. and you can love him all you want, but i will tell you -- doing those kinds of things makes our country smaller. it makes our country smaller. during the revolutionary war, abigail adams asked her husband john if they were going to win the war. here is what john said, he said, "i can't guarantee success of the war, but i can guarantee something better. that we deserve it." ladies and gentlemen, you never know what will come across the desk of the president of the united states. it is not a litmus test. we need to once again, as people of faith, put character first. if i'm president of the united states, i will put character first. i love each and every one of you for what you can contribute to our country. i love that you are people of faith. i am too. let's make america a country that cares once again about character and faith. thank you all very much. ♪ >> >> i believe we have got some hispanics in the house. [cheers] bienvenidos, i would say a miami, but we are not in miami. esteem

shortly after john kelly, chief of staff, kelly and other aides, and likely presidential electors, might go missing if they were kept in the residence. they impressed upon him that they have been tracked, not especially interested, and we start examining to check for records, but they found a way to bring items to residents. the boxes began to multiply, and he could point to boxes he wanted to take with him on air force one when he was traveling, and declined to take others, appearing to be aware of the contents inside of the boxes he chose. what do you think the significance of that is? >> even when he was in office, it was how difficult it was to keep him from taking classified information back to his office, but also, he took something, he ripped it up, you have to take it together, and this is part of his modus operandi, i think. it's interesting because we have talked before about what his motive was here and, was with these classified documents in mar-a-lago, why did they carry them with them everywhere? it was monetizing deede's, and using them as leverage in his own business rela

"the washington post" is quoting john kelly saying that mr. trump is scared to expletive deleted. are there any signs the support in the maga world is wavering? or is the backing of him ironclad? >> nothing is ever ironclad. i wouldn't be surprised to see he gets a bump in his approval ratings, the next time we get polling. over the last eight years, trump and his allies have spent that time so degrading and debasing the justice system and the levers of government, our very democratic institutions here, that his supporters are considered to think that any break that cuts against him is somehow a part of this massive conspiracy to deny him and his political movement power. i don't -- john kelly obviously is a very accomplished, smart individual who really did kind of keep trump in check over his tenure as white house chief of staff. i don't know that he has his finger on the pulse of the maga movement the way that trump does. i think at this point, everything we have seen shows us that this is still very much trump's nomination to lose. >> getting back to trump and his defense lawy

do you agree with john kelly's assessment? is that the likely thing that's going on behind the scenes? >> i wouldn't just say it's likely, i would say that our great reporters at "the washington post" that i work alongside every day are finding that he is indeed quite frightened. this is different, right? i mean, garrett spells out perfectly why donald trump's tried and true path has always been grabbing the megaphone and trying to win this in the court of public opinion. but a federal court is different. i'm not saying that this is an absolute slam dunk. a florida jury, he only needs one juror to disagree with a pretty devastating amount of evidence that jack smith has laid out, but this is a first for the country and for donald trump, and if he's not worried, i would be worried about his state of mind. also -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> i was going to say, you say it's his first but as he seems to be very aware it's also not his last potentially. he has these other cases out there. we're going to talk a lot more about those new

john kelly is a hater. his poll number, i think, are reflect the fact he's continuing to take this race head on. he's going up, in fact, leading joe biden in midwest of the head to head polling, the real clear politics average has president trump leading in the general election. and really when i see president trump now and again having been with him in the first two campaigns, the level of focus very much reminds me of the final three weeks of 2016, every day saying we're going to go win this race. it's for the future of the country. we have to do this. and i think the american people look and say, president trump, you believe what we're todaying, we're going to stick with you. howard: yeah. even though we're more than a year out. i know folks sympathetic to trump who say this is a self-inflicted wound, that there would be no case if he'd just given back the documents as some of his lawyers recommended according to "the washington post," and you're taking some flak from the right. >> little bit, a although

you mentioned bill barr john kelly already. how about mick mulvaney, who was his director of the office of director and bgt audget and his chief of staff. he was outstanding and brilliant. when mick mulvaney left, he said he was a born loser. lastly, how about general milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he said he was a great american and great patriot when he joined the administration. when general milley disagreed with him and he left, he called him pathetic and a blanking loser. look, either donald trump -- if you believe what he said when they left, that means he doesn't know how to pick the best people, if you believe what he said about them in the beginning, the great stuff, that means this person is the best manager in the history of american presidency. either way, he's a petulant child when someone agdisagrees with him. whether it's bill barr, general milley or john mattis, mick mulvaney or general milley, if you disagree with donald trump, the petulant child comes out and he calls you names like the one you

. >> so, jackie, former chief of staff john kelly told your colleagues at "the washington post" that trump is, quote, scared out of his mind, using other words. this is the way he compensates for that, he said. he gives people the appearance he doesn't care by doing this, but for the first time in his life it looks like he's being held accountable. what more do we know about how trump is dealing with all these investigations and indictments? >> yeah, jose, well, we do know that privately he is continuing to meet with perspective lawyers to hire as a part of this team representing him in the mar-a-lago documents case as we had noted yesterday. he did appear with christopher kise, the veteran florida litigator, but that appears to only be a temporary move as they're still searching for someone who has extensive in state experience in terms of navigating the courts to join the team. we know that they have -- they're continuing to interview lawyers today, a handful of prominent florida attorneys have already declined the -- any interest to that trump's team has expressed in bringing them

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>> for me, please don't. >> john kelly said he's scared shitless. he said it. >> you're in trouble. >> he said it. >> good luck today. >> i will not have that. >> i'm a journalist. >> no, you're not. >> i've got to report what's in the news. >> i will not have that. >> so excuse me, please. he added that trump, quote, gives the appearance that he doesn't care by doing things like visiting a restaurant immediately after being charged on tuesday. that opinion was backed up by another former white house staffer, press secretary stephanie grisham who told the post it's part public relations, part baby-sitting. he wants people to see the cheering crowds so they don't think anything is wrong. i think that has been trump's play every step of the way. he also lies about sort of the adulation he gets. you remember when he was inaugurated, he immediately had this issue about crowd size. i mean, he really needs the feedback, and when the feedback isn't there, he pretends it's there. if his crowd is small, he has the cameras come in to make it look bigger, make

. >> you called your white house chief of staff, john kelly, weak and ineffective. you called mick mulvaney, a born loser. your first secretary of state, rex tillerman, dumb as a rock. and james mattis, the most overrated general. you called your press secretary milqu milquetoast. and you preferred to your transportation secretary, as his loving wife. why did you hire them in the first place? >> let's find out what he calls anthony scaramucci who is walking out right now. >> i feel left out. >> we'll see if you're left out. we'll talk about donald trump's new poll numbers next. thanks a lot. thank you. we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic, plant-based fiber. with the same amount of fiber as 2 cups of broccoli. metamucil gummies the easy way to get your daily fiber. meet the portable blender we can barely keep in stock. blendjet 2 gives you ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go. so you can blend up a mouthwatering smoothie, protein shake, or latte whe

john kelly. >> she is overwhelmed by the whole situation. she had a whole spectrum of emotions.e hand she was ecstatic that van der sloot was on u.s. soil, u.s. authorities and justice system. a scab off an old wound. it is a painful reminder of what she has been through. >> sandra: like pulling a scab off. you see this man six feet five. he has come face-to-face with him multiple times and we're told he loves this. it is all about money. imagine how difficult this is for this family to go through this. t.j., can you tell us more about what the family is saying right now ahead of this? >> well, i know they are very happy about what has transpired and that van der sloot is here on american soil to be prosecuted. this is a major thing that's happened here that is he is now on american soil and tried by a court in the united states for the crime he committed. and he deserves every minute, after 18 years this family has gone through not to have their daughter present, but again, beth has kept this alive with her foundation and her efforts to bring him here. it has now paid off. >> s

people like a former foreign chief of staff john kelly and others saying no way, this is abhorrent behavior neil, you are the host of the podcast courtside with neal katyal, and you have a new episode dropping tonight with john legend where you discuss the supreme court and voting rights. tell us about that. >> basically what i want to do is bring the supreme court and make it alive to ordinary americans. each week i have discussion with a non lawyer like a john legend this week or next week it will be katie couric, in future ones it will be jeff combs the artist or john mullin is a comedian. we just go through one supreme court case in detail and tried to take it really seriously, because i think unfortunately the court has been characterized in a lot of our discourse and we want to methodically go through it, ask what the court is doing, what their moves are, and is it a right and just decision? >> that sounds like a great lineup, i cannot wait to listen. neal katyal thank you so much for being on the program tonight, your podcast courtside is available wherever podcasts are found. you ca

this week you and your white house called white house chief of staff john kelly weak and ineffective and born with a very small brain. called mick mulvaney a born loser. you called your first secretary of state rex tillerson dumb as a rock and first defense secretary james mattis overrated general. you called kayleigh mcenany milk toast and multiple times have you referred to transportation secretary elaine chao as mitch mcconnell's china loving wife. so, why did you hire all of them in the first place? >> because i hired 10 to 1 that were fantastic. >> people in charge of the economy. we had phenomenal people in the military. i'm not a found of milley and not a fan of certain of the television people. but i knocked out isis. i defeated isis. they said mattis, it would take three years and i don't think we can do it. i did it in a period of like four weeks. >> bret: there a lot of people who praise you for your policies. i just said that. >> that's true. you just went through a list. but don't forget, for every one you say i had 10 that love us. and one thing happens i find with me t

his former chief of staff john kelly believes it's all an act.the washington post," he's scared s-less. he gives people the appearance, he doesn't care about doing this. for the first time in his life, it looks like he's being held accountable. i want to bring cnn's katelyn poll lanz. what should we expect in the coming weeks and months? >> brianna, this case is going to move to judge aileen cannon. the case is going to be in her hands. she's going to be the one to put that initial trial date on the calendar, and then there will be many things that happen in the case. first, there's a couple little procedural things that have to take place because of what happened here yesterday at the miami federal courthouse. walt nauta, donald trump's co-defendant, he did not yet have a lawyer in florida who could help with his legal team. this case is based in florida, so he does need one. when he gets that in about two weeks, he's going to be able to have his own arraignment. like donald trump, he plans to be putting in a plea of not guilty at this time head

. >> you called white house chief of staff, john kelly, weak and ineffective and born with a very small brain. you called acting white house chief of staff a born loser. you called for secretary of state, rex tillerson, that was a rock. and your first offense or canary, james madison, the world's most overrated general. you culture white house percocet and multiple times to efforts or transportation secretary, elaine chao, as mitch mcconnell's china loving wife. so, why did you hire all of them in the first place? >> let's find out what he calls anthony scaramucci in his walking out right now. we'll talk about that -- >> you feel left out? we'll see if you're left out. we'll talk about donald trump's poll numbers next. thanks so much. here's how tommy lost 30 lbs on noom weight. i'm tom. noom helped him use psychology to lose weight. the mindful aspect made me feel more conscious about what i was eating and why i was eating it. it's actually working. lose weight and make it last with noom weight. ladies... welcome to my digestive system. when your gut and vaginal bacteria are off balanc

in separate one he went after someone you worked with briefly former white house chief of staff john kelly calling kelly weak and ineffective, born with a very small brain. of course, trump hired kelly. trump hired kelly, praised him up and down everywhere, what do these attacks tell you about where trump's head is? >> general kelly's first act in the white house was to fire me, so he and i went on to become close friends, and if you ever get general kelly sitting ensure like this he would save the country over the 18 months, no less than five times from near catastrophe based on decisions, recklessness, lack of intellectual curiosity from the president, lack of executive management skills. so general kelly is an american hero, when he says nonsense like that it is him projecting how he feels about himself. so mick is a good guy, you mentioned john bolton, very experienced competent person. but all of these people are in the conundrum that trump put you in where he wants asymmetrical loyalty, he wants to be reckless and do things that are borderline criminal if not over the edge of crimina

this week you called your white house chief of staff john kelly weak and ineffective and born with ar defense secretary james mattis the world's most overrated general. you called kaylee mcenany milktoast. why did you hire all of them in the first place? >> because i hired 10 to 1 that were fantastic. >> joining our conversation former chief of staff miles taylor. he was among the first calls inside the house, literally, of the first trump administration officials to issue warnings about the president at the time he served. miles, what did you think of that? >> i thought it was devastating. i thought it was absolutely devastating. i was glad bret did that. it took a little too long for someone to actually do that, but it's just the tip of the iceberg, and we all know that. in trump's defense i'll say one good thing, which he did bring together a pretty strong together. you have scarborough and others saying they were reassured. but i'll tell you first-hand as soon as those people got into the administration they all thought donald trump was a fool. we talked it about after oval offic

last week we heard from another individual from inside the house, trump's former chief of staff, john kellyfor trump's tough and confident exterior following his indictment last week quote, he's scared bleepless this is the way he compensates for that he gives people the appearance he doesn't care by doing this. for the first time in his life it looks like he's being held accountable. up until this point in his life it's like, i'm not going to pay you, take me to court. he's never been held accountable before esper and barr also warning that the current gop presidential front-runner so never, ever hold office again >> do you think trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again >> well, based on his actions, again, if proven true, under the indictment by the special counsel, no. i mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk. you cannot have these documents floating around. >> he will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else including the country's interests. >> our countr

the former marine general, who is the longest serving chief of staff in the trump white house, john kelly, told the washington post he's scared shitless the for the first time in his life, it looks like he's being held accountable, up until this point in his life, it's like i'm not going to pay you. take me to court. he's never been held accountable before. donald trump's vice president, who was urged to commit crimes by donald trump, in his intent to overturn the presidential election, said this. >> i had a chance to review the indictment over the weekend. and this indictment contains serious charges. and i cannot defend what is alleged. i will tell you, as not only as a former vice president, but also my son is a marine, my son-in-law's a navy lieutenant. the very prospect that what is alleged here took place, creating an opportunity where highly sensitive classified material could've fallen into the wrong hands even inadvertently, that jeopardizes our national security, that puts at risk the men and women of our armed forces. and as i said, i cannot defend what is alleged. >> cannot de

you know, people like former chiefs of staff john kelly and others saying no way, this is absolutely abhorrent behavior. it's criminal behavior. >> neal, of course you're the host of the podcast courtside with neal katyal, and you have a new episode dropping tonight with john legend where you discuss the supreme court and voting rights. tell us about that. >> yeah, so basically, what i want to do is bring the supreme court and make it alive to ordinary americans. so each week i have a discussion with a nonlawyer like john legend this week or next week it will be katie couric or future ones will be jeff koons the artist, and we go through one supreme court case in detail and try and take it really seriously. because i think unfortunately the court has been caricaturized in a lot of our discourse. we want to methodically go through it, ask what the court is doing, what their moves are, and ask it a right and just decision. >> that sounds like a great lineup. can't wait to listen. neal katyal, thank you so much for being on the program tonight. and your podcast courtside is available wh

this is at least in the short term is a political win, something that his former chief of staff john kelly said in "the washington post" really drew our attention. i want to read it, he said, he's scared s-less, figure that out. this is the way he compensates for that. he gives people the appearance he doesn't care by doing this. for the first time in his life, looks like he's going to be held accountable up in this point in life, it's like i'm not going to pay you, take me to court. he's never been held accountable before. >> right. i think if you look at some of the reporting out there that says publicly he's projecting this err of confidence. he's seeing this as an opportunity to bolster his campaign profile. but these are very serious charges. and it is not just these charges in federal court, it's not just the hush money payment accusations in new york. he has two more potential indictments coming in other criminal matters. these are very serious charges. again, you know, he can try to make lemons out of lemonade, but the lemons are initially sour in the first place. he's not dealing

it's something that a military veteran and his former chief of staff, john kelly, says is rattling trump, telling the "post", the former boss here now is scared bleepless. that's how we can say it on tv. and there's a stark contrast to trump's antics to what actually went down in the courtroom. now we have the transcript, where we see inside the court for the first time that the judge asked, quote, is this prosecution asking for former president trump to surrender his passport? and jack smith's prosecutor, his hand picked prosecutor for this case says, no your honor. we also see now in writing the judge's orders for defendant. quote, i'm imposing a special condition that president trump may not communicate with the confident waltine nauta about the case. we have these images that he does not want to public to focus on. these are the moments we keeps distracting from with speeches, press appearances and many, many social media posts. this is a portrait of two arraignments, each governed under the rule of access that we have. one in new york where a photographer snapped this picture of don

[laughter] county is somebody that the -- john kelly, who told my paper, the washington post, that trumpe, scared crap-less. honestly, how could he not be. especially when so many of the people who used to have his back are practically lining up to talk about how screwed he is. >> his answers on the matters of the law seem to me to be verging on incoherent. it was not altogether clear what he was saying, but he seems to believe that the documents of his that he declassified as evidence of the contrary, and therefore, he could do whatever he wanted with them. i don't think that it's going to hold up in court. >> this is a case that entirely of his own making he had no right to those documents. the government tried for over a year quietly and with the respect to get them back. it was essential that they do. he jerked them around. he had no legal basis for keeping them. >> has sprung is the special counsel's case on obstruction specifically? >> a lot. there is evidence of him saying things that are completely uncommon had-able with the idea that this was an innocent document dispute. >> it

references on that, go to rex rex tillerson, jim mattis, mark milley, bill barr, mick mulvaney, john kellye jobs to, high, important jobs in the government, cabinet-level jobs, and now calls them things like gutless pigs and cowards and boring losers -- born losers. look, howie, he is a petulant child. if he were your child, you would send him to his room, not white house. howard: trump just told sebastian gorka, as you know, that he never trusted you or wanted you in the administration. >> well, look, that makes him either a liar or an idiot, because he, in fact, did give me chairman of the opioid and drug abuse commission, he did make me chairman of his transition, he did put me in charge of his debate prep, and he offer me secretary of labor, secretary of homeland security and white house chief of staff. so he is either an idiot or a liar, because if you would offer all those things and give those things to someone you don't trust, you're an idiot. and guess what? he did trust me. just because i thinks agreed with him that now all of a sudden you wind up on the other side, but i take it

john kelly, his second white house chief of staff, bought a book about president trump's presumed psychologicalhile people may not associate it with able, i think there are have been issues, questions raised about president trump's ability to do the job that could be linked with age. i think you'll see that come up again in the next campaign. >> peter baker, robert gibbs, thank you. appreciate it. >>> still ahead, reports of heavy fighting across ukraine. is this the beginning of a dramatic shift. >>> the mystery in oregon. six women found dead in the last six months. could there be a serial killer on the loose? killer on the loose exactly what she ws and only pays for what she needs. she picks only the perks she wants and saves on every one! all with an incredible new iphone. get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon. [stomach growling] it's nothing... sounds like something. ♪when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion♪ ♪upset stomach, diarrhea♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief when you need it most. the first time you made a sale online with godaddy was also th

he led the attorney, john q. kelly home in aruba saying she's buried under the foundation within the gravel. he later e-mailed them saying it was all a lie. and that's how these extortion and fraud charges were born. according to public records, he will be having a public defender. that can change, but that's what it is at this point. and that public defender will most likely be visiting him before what we believe will be that initial appearance tomorrow. >> and jean, we are still watching the plane as it was just unloaded by a team of what i assume are folks affiliated with federal investigators. this is obviously a case that has garnered international attention. it's been nearly 20 years now since holloway's disappearance back in 2005. and for joran van der sloot, the prime suspect in her disappearance, this is only the latest chapter in this saga. he has a sordid history with law enforcement, right? >> reporter: he does. you know, he is a dutch national, so he is. dutch descent. he and his family were living in arub

. >> betsy, trump's former chief of staff john kelly had some strong words about trump telling "the washingtonost" quote, he's scared. he gives people the appearance he doesn't care by doing this. for the first time in his life it looks like he's being held accountable. end quote. is this a different, maybe more -- more significant obstacle than anything trump's faced before? >>. >> there's no question. it's his first time being charged by the justice department with criminal charges, and that's -- that would be enough to sober the most light hearted person to face such a situation. at the same time, of course, we saw the former president instantly pivot back into campaign mode right after he left that courthouse. of course he went straight for versailles, this famed cuban restaurant in miami that's a must stop campaign stop. people were singing him happy birthday, of course. there appeared to be a very buoyant mood. the former president's efforts to try to shift the narrative as quickly as possible from bad news to campaign mode were clear for anyone to see. and then in his remarks at bedmins

even slightly critical of everything that's happening here, including his former chief of staff, john kelly. this really is a similar move? this is how he responds to situations like these? >> that's right. this is how he has responded to accountability over the years in almost every instance to lash out, to claim his innocence, to present himself as some sort of victim who has been unfairly persecuted. that's the playbook that he is following here. he is doing it to some success politically, because he has been raising several million dollars from his supporters. by every measure, he remains the leader in the race to secure the republican presidential nomination. so clearly, he is trying to use the indictment and this upcoming trial to create a sense of victimhood around his candidacy and use that to galvanize the people who are inclined to support him for president, to stick closer to him to give more money to become more loyal politically. that's not, of course, going to be enough necessarily to get him back into the white house. he would have to go through a general election. he is tryi

whether it's bill barr, john kelly, or general mattis.nick mulvaney, or general milley. if you disagree with donald trump, the petulant child comes out and he calls you names. >> i don't think that is what the constitution intends. giving the president the pardon power. but most importantly, it would be inappropriate, although i can certainly see donald trump doing that. that is exactly what he would intend if he got elected president. >> as for the man who beat donald trump in 2020? well, it is all about the issues heading into 2024. president biden held his first reelection rally saturday in pennsylvania, giving no time to trump or his legal pair are. the washington post quotes, president biden's administration is placing large bet on the idea that voters still care whether the government is succeeding at the basics, constructing roads and bridges, creating well-paying jobs a new green and tech industries, and managing the federal apparatus without excessive drama. with me now, msnbc political analyst fernando monte, who's the strange d

this, week you and your white house -- called your white house chief of staff, john kelly, we candidve and born with a very small. brian you called your white house chief of staff -- mick mulvaney a born loser. -- and your first defense ecuador, a james mattis, the world's most overrated's overrated general. you call your white house press secretary -- milquetoast, and multiple times you referred to your transportation secretary, elaine chao, as mitch mcconnells china loving wife. so, why did you hire all of them in the first place? >> because i hired 10 to 1 that were fantastic. >> [laughter] it's the sheer length and the straightens of delivery that really sells that bit. now, of course, trump could not sit down for an interview without airing his favorite obsession, the number one grievance the, 2020 election the company lost, and baier, to his credit, again, did not let him off the hook for that either. >> first of all, i won in 2020 by a lot. okay? let's get that straight. i won in 2020. >> you know -- that's not -- >> -- everything that you want to look at, you take a look at t

he's a petulant child when someone disagrees with him and whether it's bill barr or john kelly or general whether it is mick mulvaney or whether it's -- excuse me, general milley, if you disagree with donald trump the petulant child comes out and he calls you names like the ones you just mentioned and the ones i mentioned. >> the rnc just said the candidates have to pledge to support the nominee in order to participate in the debates. former governor asa hutchinson, he tried to get a carveout so the candidates would not have to be required to support a nominee if that nominee is a convicted felon. the rnc said no. you have to stand by the nominee even if he or she is convicted of a felony. so if donald trump is a nominee, would you pledge to support him and vote for him even if he's a convicted felon? >> jake, i'm going to go back to 2016 again and say i'm going to take the pledge just as seriously as donald trump took it in 2016. as you remember, reince priebus had to go up to trump tou wer t get him to sign it to ask him to do so and we went to a subsequent debate and we were asked if w

regarding that, the face he puts on in public, john kelly, who was his former chief of staff said of donald trump, and his behavior yesterday, he is scared. this is the way he compensates for that he gives people the appearance he doesn't care by doing this. first time in his life it looks like he is being held -- >> ainsley: is he scared? will if is he scared, he would never admit it. >> brian: to somebody like that. it's amazing to eric or to don jr. >> ainsley: i can't imagine those words coming out of his mouth. >> steve: speaking of being held accountable. you know, the republicans are saying look, while the department of justice is prosecuting the former president. what about the current president? there is a story that chuck grassley went onto the floor of the senate and said we need unredacted version of that 1023 form because we have been told by a whistleblower that there are like 17 recordings of joe and hunter biden and there is bribery stuff. yesterday, karine jean-pierre was asked from the podium of the white house about that and she actually quoted her boss. >> on a di

after attacking william barr earlier this week, today trump responded to john kelly's claim that the criminal prosecution is basically scaring the crap out of donald trump by calling the retired four star general a tough guy with a small brain. this is the guy he hired to be his chief of staff. so what does a desperate trump do when he is facing serious legal charges, losing lawyers and watching one time allies turn against him? well, he seems to look to people who will say yes to him. this week the washington -- -- repeatedly dismissed his lawyers efforts to avoid the classified documents indictment. instead he turned to the advice of tom fitton. this man who told him he did nothing wrong and keeping classified documents. if you don't know who tom fitton's, all have to do is close scroll on the don trump media say today. there are seven posts that he shared from tom fitton, peddling the trump line of innocence in the classified documents case. tom fitton even went on newsmax to claim, quote, don trump cooperated. this is all happening in just one of the two federal cases being inves

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that includes former white house counsel john mcgahn and former white house chief of staff john kellyremember when i read this cnn reporting about donald trump's zeal to declassify things. the notes with the call from zelenskyy for put in a lockdown because i think they were trying to figure out what to do about what trump had done on that call. trump was pushing for declassification. he had to have more contacts with more lawyers. eisenberg i think comes up in the mueller report as well as someone who was involved with trump. but trump was pushing to declassify materials related to the russia investigation from day one of his presidency. there may be no former president more steeped in the declassification process than donald trump. what is the depth of witnesses that you think jack smith has brought to bear to prove that point if he thinks that's important to his case? >> 15, 50,000. we're so, so over the top. first of all, you're completely right about trump. remember, early on he blundered and gave away classified information in a meeting with russian officials and they had to scr

i know john kelly. he was with me. didn't do a good job. had no temperament. ultimately, he was petered out. he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't even able to function. i am confident that jay has the wisdom and leadership to guide our economy through any challenges that our great economy may face. i had my situation with powell, and i beat the hell out of him. i was not a fan of powell. he was recommended by some people. i didn't like him. >> a brief look back at donald trump claiming to have hired the best people, only to trash them after they left his administration. it is something he was pressed on last night in a wide-ranging and contentious interview with fox news. the former president offered new and, at times, incoherent reasons for why he kept classified materials at mar-a-lago. >> by the way, incoherent according to fox news analysts. >> it was an incredible interview. >> also incoherent. >>> also, we'll go to beijing for the latest on relations following secretary of state blinken's meeting with chinese president xi jinping.