jim mattis and john kelly and hr mcmaster and rex tillerson, all these guys, some of them had an unofficial pact like baby-sitters, you're going to stay in washington like someone is watching the white house. it sounds crazy in retrospect but there we were. but the next time around it's going to be steven miller's all the way down. in other words it's going to be the true believers. it's not going to be the people most of washington center left, center right would consider the grownups. and you bring up cq brown. it's interesting this will be the reverse of milley's experience. c.q. brown is starving under biden. just the behavioral normalcy of the biden white house as opposed to the trump white house, so starting there. but if trump wins and i don't think any of us are kidding ourselves when we say he could win again, then you go into a situation where all of a sudden, and i've been very blunt in this piece, all of a sudden you're a general who's reporting to an unstable president. and that was the thing about general milley. he did a lot across his career. but the thing that makes him uni

if you're john kelly, if you'r hr mcmaster, if you're on an on and on.n jim mattis the list is endless. the list of people he hired an turned on, - >> losers. >> all of the most hig achievement people in america. all losers so, i think that whole coterie of people became a bit mor worried, when trump, said mayb a couple months ago, i will be your retribution, remember tha quote? it's a revenge based campaign. can he go after them i suppose> so, it depends on who he has >> stephen miller, at the port of justice >> yeah, this is where the stress on the system comes in. this is not normal obviously, behavior in a democracy. you don't do that. this is not a normal presidency he, obviously, operates outsid the boundaries of norms. >> let me ask you really quickly, the lafayette incident, one of the lowes point in our country's history just the way that it played out, the fact that general milley was dragged into, it was there at the photo op. and it must have weighed heavily on him how much did that incident that moment, factor into general milley's calculati

kelly. >> richard john kelly junior. >> thomas michael kelly. >> thomas richard kelly. >> thomas w. kelly. >> timothy kelly. >> william hill kelly junior. >> robert clinton kennedy. >> my uncle, i'm so proud to be named after you. i love hearing stories about you and i try to follow your example showing kindness to everyone i meet and our family misses you and we ask you to please continue watching over us. you will never be forgotten uncle nole. >> my uncle. richard michael. even though we never met, i always wonder how good of an uncle you would have been. i will always love you and always hold a special place in my heart. >> bill: those two young men met the moment. try to follow your example. a bit earlier we heard a comment we love you to the moon and back and every one of those salutations, dana, really just tugs at you and how could it not? we are coming up on another moment at 10:28 a.m. when the north tower collapses. >> dana: i have loved how they have the young people all connected in some way to people they never met but they stand there side-by-side and bravely read tho

back to you, john. >> john: kelly o'grady live at the port of long beach. thank you as always. i guess the philosophy of the biden administration is the regulation will drive the texas opposed to the tech driving the tech. >> sandra: we will talk to larry kudlow about this, he has a lot to say on that, the truckers, and also the cancelling of these oil and gas leases in alaska, he is suggesting that the biden administration is breaking the law by cancelling those and we are in a situation and if we are not producing enough energy to meet our own demands, we rely on foreign nations for it. >> john: looking forward to that. >> sandra: oh, man, last night, so many of us saw it, waited through it, the climate protestors, they stood up and disrupted, this was obviously the u.s. open, women's semifinal was happening when all this went down, it was delayed for 50 minutes as the nypd struggled to remove one of the protestors who decided to glue their feet to the floor of the seat. this is the aftermath of that scene, ok. that's not to the seat, that's to the floor beneath the seat. cha

and this is where the relationship fell far, as it did with a lot of other people, jim mattis and john kellyause, maybe, they looked at the park. what he did not understand is that mark milley was committed to the principle that the military reports, in essence, to the constitution, not to the president of the united states. he did not understand that these guys, who have risen in the ranks all the way to general, have their own code of conduct and ethics and behavior that ran counter to what trump thought, maybe based on what he saw and movies, how he thought he should act. and so, it was a class from the beginning, as it was with a lot of other people that trump hired. >> ultimately, and some of the antidotes, that we will talk about next, that is the central conflict that erupts really between the election and january 6th. jeffrey, standby. coming up next, why milley thinks that a second trump term could threaten his freedom. the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently. it still does. what can you do with spy?

donald trump or to be our president again, you would not see mark milley or hr mcmaster, even john kelly'se who they are number one duty is that loyalty pledge to donald trump. >> his sons would start wearing military uniforms just like sudan's. human guardrails like that on our decency, that is what we would be missing. >> yeah, and without decency, we have nothing. molly, to you. >> i have video for u.s. as well. yes, molly. here we go, watch this. >> an impeachment inquiry is a grave undertaking that is supposed to be in a response to evidence of a crime. on september 1st, speaker kevin mccarthy said he would not launch a fake impeachment inquiry, a sham impeachment inquiry, but then on september 12th just 12 days later, he completely changed his mind. they said you are about to lose your ob and they said we will remove u.s. speaker from the house. that's get him so much, that kevin mccarthy, the speaker of the, house the united states representative, stood in line to the presidency, completely caved, due to the threats of people within his own caucus. this fake impeachment is based on

john kelly took a moment with all of his staff, very large part of the staff, i want to remind all of you, we sworn oath to the constitution, not to a person. in essence, he was telling them, if this guy asked you to do something that's against the constitution, check yourselves. and that is what milley is reminding everybody about again. yuck >> we have to remember that a lot of people that you described in the military, in the law enforcement, in the fbi, supported and support donald trump. >> and mark milley will be retiring on saturday. he was honored with a clap out when he left the pentagon today. i clearly i'm going to show that. watch this. [applause] [applause] [applause] >> see you tomorrow. >> max, the president spoke, not just about trump, but about how most republicans said absolutely nothing about trump 's threats to milley. as a veteran, how does that make you feel? those your colleagues. >> i walked up and down those steps hundreds of times, and that was not just about the chairman. if you look at those other service members who were standing to the left and right of h

understand and this is wrt relationship fell apart as it did with a lot of other people, jim mattis and john kellyame in because maybe in part they looked the part. what he didn't understand was mark milley was committed to the principle that the military reports in essence to the constitution. not to the president of the united states. he didn't understand these guys who have risen in the ranks to general have their own code of conduct and ethics and behavior that ran counter to what trump thought maybe based on what he saw in movies, how he thought he should act. and so it was a clash almost from the beginning. as it was with a lot of other people that trump hired. >> ultimately and some anecdotes we'll talk about next that is the central conflict that erupts between the election and january 6th. >> exactly. >> stand by. >>> coming up next why milley thinks that a second trump term could threaten his freedom. ♪ i jusust want to lie motionless in a chair! ♪ booking.com, booking.yeah ♪ ♪ she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when

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john kelly 3 years. carroll deaggressivea there are years of service. james blue, 36 years of service and carlos, 32 years of service. 32 years of service. steven delayo 33 years. laura target, 26 years of service. brian sack, 26 years. her with us today al, 35 years of service. and the water enterprise jose lamoney. . wes low and today may low amad 26 years of service. kevin roach 28 years and vincent wong 27 years. join me in congratulate our retirees with applause. i think when we recognize commissioners is that is experience. well is good and they are happy for so long but there is the other side we replace the people why we are focussed on hiring to make sure we builted next crop of leaders. before i ask the folks attending today. up for a photo commissioners if you like to say anything. floor is yours. >> commissioner stacy >> congratulations and thank you so much for many years of service and enjoy your retirement. >> >> i wanted to say absolutely impressed the amount years, wow, and i guess i share the current gm. pretty tough to replace the yea

. >> john kelly says get rid of hs2 . >> john kelly says get rid of hsz .. it's of no use to anyone. hs2. it's of no use to anyone. well, probably him. >> where does he live? >> where does he live? >> probably. >> probably. >> probably. >> probably nowhere near it. that's why car scale , we had that's why car scale, we had a feature on car scale today and james says it's the price of beers in this country, not the quality that counts. lower the prices. so pubs and the industry can flourish once again. and steve says, i've been a cask ale drinker for many years and i'm a long serving member of camra . long serving member of camra. that's the campaign for real ale. when i enter a pub, i always look for an unfamiliar brew to try rather than sticking to the same old, same old. and i get. i get . get. i get. >> i'm definitely not one if i'm having one drink because i'm driving . driving. >> when have you ever had one dnnk?l >> when have you ever had one drink? i suppose if i'm driving or if i'm trying to be responsible. >> yes. i don't want to waste my 1 or 2 dr

who were dismayed when the first reports came out about the kinds of things donald trump said to john kelly about his son, who had died, and why do people give their lives. i don't understand it. or john mccain being taken prisoner of war. for the die hard of trump supporters, that makes no difference. they love him anyway. but there are the republicans prepared to look somewhere else. but this primary season doesn't seem to have produced a viable, yet, alternative candidate to donald trump. we're looking, again, at the trump/biden matchup, which polls suggest many americans feel discouraged by. on the economy, i think you're right. you know, the biggest threat, i would have thought, to joe biden at the moment is not so much the age question but the federal reserve saying they're going to keep interest rates high for the next two years. potentially the auto workers' strike. there are economic clouds on the horizon that could be damaging to the president. i think he's got to be careful to tie himself just to the message of bidenomics. >> exactly. a lot of economists now believing that intere

who had to back channel to avert calamity, secretary mattis who quit for cause, i'm thinking of john kelly he had ever encountered, do you think that trump will be as vicious against these former generals, some of the most respected figures in american civic life as he was against the former intelligence officials who spoke out in the transition, and during his presidency. >> i think donald trump will likely be even more vicious as he seeks to regain the presidency. i think he's going to stoop to any tactic whatsoever, and it's really quite shocking that donald trump and putin had the same ambitions as far as the united states is concerned to divide this country, roil the waters, separate us out from one another, and that's what donald trump is doing. i do think he's going to be on an offensive, and then if he were to be reelected, i think he is going to do whatever he wants with the tremendous authorities that a president has in order to continue to push his own personal agenda, and so that's why i wouldn't be surprised if vladimir putin and the russians right now are looking for ways to

in the new york times the former president trump explicitly told the chief of staff john kelly that they quote, ought to investigate and get the iris on for civil service, and considers the political enemy. explicit testimony from his own chief of staff. again, absolute from the other side of the aisle. including from the ways and means committee, it's so concerning about any thing with any interference of any political entity or individual over the pristine work at the department of justice and the iris. an agency, i might, add another piece of irony in this area, it has been disparaged as the hobnob boots on the neck of the taxpayer for so long by the majority. and then resources by the majority as we speak. they had 24 billion dollars in the agreement out of the 80 billion we've provided to give you more resources to do your job. i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back, we are going to have two more questions at the request of the witnesses at every 90 minute mark. we will take a ten minute bathroom resists. we will recognize the next two questions and then go to that right now. th

not see in a second term the kinds of people in the first term who restrained him, people like john kellye who want to help him attack the deep state, as he likes to put it, who will help to reshape the federal government in his image, to make more agencies quasi independent or autonomous, report directly to him, to put more power in the hands of the oval office directly in his hands. he wouldn't appreciate it if joe biden did it because he doesn't think joe biden should be president. if he's in there, he wants all power to rest in his hands, and he's mapped out a plan for how to do that. >> and, susan, to that point and that you all write about in the book, we should take donald trump at his word now when he says things like we heard him say about prosecuting his opponents, because there was a sense when he was running last time, he was elected but our institutions will hold and people will put guardrails around him. those people aren't going to be there and if eastman or rudy giuliani is attorney general in the second term, they're going to carry out his orders along with perhaps a spea

if he wins, it's not milley and mcmaster and john kelly. cases from day one in all these places. >> john, i have to ask you about the politics of this. when you -- if you are running for office to beat and defeat donald trump, doesn't it make sense for you to condemn and to highlight the negative things that he is doing? last night on that republican stage, the nominees standing there, as ben said, whiffing at the chance to condemn donald trump for the commends he made about general milley, i'm not asking them to be a profile in courage, but wouldn't you use that opportunity to say, look at this agent, look at this chaos agent, look how crazy he has become, how unhinged that he is calling for the execution of our top general? >> you would like to think that this would be an example, in the case of the military and particularly the extreme rhetoric that donald trump used against mark milley, that there would be -- this would be somehow immune from what had been increasingly the laws of republican politics which is that if you attack donald t

recent reporting in the new york times, former president trump asked leslie told his chief of staff john kelly that they, quote, ought to investigate and get the irs on former civil servants of mr. trump that he considered his political enemies. explicit testimony from his own chief of staff. but again, absolute silence on the other side of the aisle, including from the ways and means committee, which purports to be so concerned about any hint of interference by any political entity or individual over the pristine work of the department of justice and the irs. an agency, i might add, that has been disparaged as the boot on the neck of the american taxpayer for so long by the majority and denied resources by the majority. as we speak, they cut $24 million in the debt ceiling compromise agreement out of the 80 million we provided to in fact give you more resources to do your job. i yield back. >> we are going to have two more questions at the request co of the witnesses at every 90 minute mark. we are going to take a 10 minute bathroom recess. so we will recognize the next two questioners, and t

now, the difference between the first two years when grown-ups like john kelly, jim mattis, so on, were core trump loyalists in the pentagon. milley at one point had to warn the guys he said, "you guys can end up in jail if you do the kinds of things that you may be doing i'm not saying you're doing them, but we're watching." this is the reverse of what popular culture assumes a coup would look like. they assume a coup is going to be the generals launching a coup, and, here, the general is looking at civilians saying, "don't even think about it." it's a remarkable record, it really is. >> it really is remarkable if you want to put this in context of where we were, think about before jianuary 6th, the secretary of defenses writing a letter, doing what jeffrey said general milley was saying, don't do it. it is an extraordinary story the thing is, jeffrey brings up another great point. people in china, leaders in china, in russia, in iran, across the middle east, across the world, don't understand our government and don't understand how messy it gets, that it looks a lot messier from, you

that means john kelly, jim mattis. that means the people that were on the committee -- >> powell.a. >> leaving it to democrats to win you will at the elections p. >> we can't make it just about democrats. we'll turn off people who don't want to be under that label. that's why i think it has to be team community versus team chaos. and you may not be with us in future battles but for this battle, for freedom we all have to be in it together. otherwise -- >> sort of like liz cheney's mid-term message. i hope to not be out here for you next time. just taking a quick break. nobody's going anywhere. we'll ask the congressman about another tragic and scary biproduct of the maga base's conduct on january 6th. the skyrocketing costs lawmakers like congressman swalwell are being forced to pay just to protect themselves and their families. a brand new report is out on that. stay with us. new report is out n that stay with us shelves. shelves smart enough to see, sense, react, restock. so caramel swirl is always there for the taking. after switching to the farmer's dog we noticed so many impr

also got former trump insiders, people like his final -- not final but his second chief of staff, john kellyying that they even, inside the white house there were questions about what jared kushner was doing some of the time. so tell me about this effort at this point to dig into the expresident's son-in-law, jared kushner's business dealing. >> absolutely. thank you. i think it is very clear. you have jared kushner who worked on middle east policy who was the lead person in the trump white house when it came to working within the middle east and saudi arabia. and a few months after office, a few months after he leaves the white house, he's receiving $2 billion plus from the saudi government. so if there isn't smoke there, i don't know what else could be worse? we're looking at a situation here where the oversight committee is reeling serious about what the kushes did, how they received the $2 billion plus, what he did to receive that money, the effort led by chair raskin on our end is to ensure that we get the facts of what happened. we want to subpoena the documents. we want to ensure and

john kelly 3 years. carroll deaggressivea there are years of service. james blue, 36 years of service and carlos, 32 years of service. 32 years of service. steven delayo 33 years. laura target, 26 years of service. brian sack, 26 years. her with us today al, 35 years of service. and the water enterprise jose lamoney. . wes low and today may low amad 26 years of service. kevin roach 28 years and vincent wong 27 years. join me in congratulate our retirees with applause. i think when we recognize commissioners is that is experience. well is good and they are happy for so long but there is the other side we replace the people why we are focussed on hiring to make sure we builted next crop of leaders. before i ask the folks attending today. up for a photo commissioners if you like to say anything. floor is yours. >> commissioner stacy >> congratulations and thank you so much for many years of service and enjoy your retirement. >> >> i wanted to say absolutely impressed the amount years, wow, and i guess i share the current gm. pretty tough to replace the yea

i quote general john kelly secretary of homeland security this is border security is not end or begin at the border. and mr. jones to think i heard your testimony and i've listened to it very carefully and i'll they'll tell you i really don't like what you said. but as an individual on both sides of border the border had to tell you you have some valid points. we do need some extreme solutions. we need to coordinate with mexico and we need to get it right. speaking to officials recently they reminded me just recently they had seized 46,000 bank accounts the equivalent of almost $700 million of money from organized crime and have entered into an anti-money laundering with the united states. 1600 members of the military today are deployed at 55 security points along the border. seizures recently 7.5 tons of fentanyl, 1700 labs shut down almost 74,000 criminals arrested in mexico and the course in january of this year the arrest of chapo guzmÁn that erupted into one of those gunfights that you're describing where 12 marines were killed. i think the effort is there but i don't think it's

enjoins with several other members of the senators, including warren, bennett, klobuchar, mark kelly, johne are all members of the senate who have said that it's time for senator menendez to step down. jose, you and i watched that yesterday. he was defiant in his belief that he had no reason to step down. he said he will be the sitting senator from new jersey once this legal trouble is behind him. right now, many of his colleagues here in washington simply do not agree. >> ryan nobles on capitol hill, thank you very much. >>> that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," president biden heading to michigan at this hour to make history, walking the picket lines with auto workers while facing a barrage of criticism from former president trump who is heading to detroit tomorrow. >>> this hour, the walls are closing in on

however, let's speak to yes, john kelly, because, john, there is actually something quite important aboutironment agencies, weather forecasting and the whole sort of environmental issue . of environmental issue. >> it's a little bit incestuous, isn't it, mark, don't you think they're looking after each other? aren't they ? other? aren't they? >> or maybe warning us that >> or maybe just warning us that they're on the way ? no, i they're on the way? no, i couldn't see that either. >> ten years, maybe ten years before i get on this list . before i get on this list. >> but yes, i know it's a good thing, isn't it? i mean, naming storms has always been a good thing. it's only happened this last think some last nine years. i think some people may be a little bit confused because it's only in the or weeks we've had the last 4 or 5 weeks we've had two named storms and were the last 4 or 5 weeks we've had two ilo ned storms and were the last 4 or 5 weeks we've had two ilo bei storms and were the last 4 or 5 weeks we've had two ito be theirms and were the last 4 or 5 weeks we've had two ito be the

uncle john, for that advice. yeajohn kelly is a weather man. >> john kelly is a weather man.a legend. it's absolutely an honour. ijust. i grew he's a legend. it's absolutely an honour. i just. i grew up an honour. ijust. i grew up with that fella. what a legend. >> i know. he's great. and i had a nightmare yesterday. i got home i've these home and i've got these ornamental. know what ornamental. i don't know what they're mirrors to they're like. garden mirrors to make your garden look and make your garden look wider and bigger. absolutely bigger. they're absolutely lovely. foot lovely. they're like six foot high. in the strong high. got home and in the strong winds, course, blown winds, of course, it's blown oven winds, of course, it's blown over, smashed everywhere. over, smashed glass everywhere. >> quite pricey. >> that's quite pricey. >> that's quite pricey. >> pricey . and i was just >> it is pricey. and i was just terrified my dogs were going to get cut. it was so yeah, get cut. it was awful. so yeah, we are hoping those strong winds, hurricane nigel isn't going to caus

where's john kelly? james mattis? where's mitch mcconnell? where's paul ryan?ere and do everything in our power to try to prevent this guy from ending american democracy from being our nominee again and that's not happening. you're seeing it on the democratic side more. that speaks to the culture within the party right now and how broken it is, with the details you listed out. >> it's interesting to hear publically the biden white house is talking about the economy, bidenomics as he puts it. we heard it, the alternative is what we've known and loved for 240 years in the country, that the democratic institutions will be completely brought down if donald trump goes to the white house. it seems from a campaign point of view they're working this balance of i've done this good stuff in my first four years but also remember i'm not minimum. >> an amazing election coming up. this is going to be the big one. i think it is the big one. both of these candidates have their weaknesses. joe biden will be 86 that's a fact. you can argue whether he's had good days or bad days

polarizing, but you have paul gosar and donald trump who think he committed treason and then you have john kellygates and the general saying he was a patriot who defended the constitution. so we do this stuff where we frame things because we think that the framing brings balance, but you have to also analyze, is there real balance here? is paul gosar's opinion equal to robert gates'? >> and first of all let's step back and talk about republicans on the hill. you know, i'm sure you've gotten an earful. i've gotten an earful from a lot of senate republicans. they're, like, don't throw us in with the freaks of the house. that's what senators -- that's what the house of lords has always said. that's what they're saying about us when i was there. >> that's your song. don't throw us in with the freaks in the house. you could write that. >> there are on capitol hill, there are three parties. there's the democratic party, the house republicans and the senate republicans. if we were a european, you know, if we were a european parliamentary system, there would be three separate parties there, and then you

kelly. welcome to the program. as it by john is expected to hold peace talks with armenian separatists after a swift military victory in the break away territory of new cornel kara boss, azerbaijan, as president says that his country has regained control over the disputed region. after separate test, ethnic armenian forces agreed to lay down their arms as part of a ceasefire. protestors rallied in the armenian capital year of on, over the government's handling of the situation in the gore. no car box choosing it of abandoning armenians during the fighting that separatists officials say killed at least 200 people. the gar, no car box is internationally recognized as part of as a vice sean, even though most of its residents are estimate of armenians. the region has of the moment armenian forces left that trenches. that's what this video published by as a, by john's defense ministry claims to sure. just one day after launching a military operation, as a bus on declared victory or the separatists in the armenian majority enclave of

larry: that is overcome buttodag internet or by the way, larry will be joined by kelly and conway louisiana senator, johnennedy and i love watching member first, please make totaled is up to carry through the next hour. >> congratulations that was a lot of fun and let's get right at it and here's what is happening now, president of biden is giving remarks and he has just now speaking put in alaska, on 911 of the backlash is the 911 families are saying that this is the opposite of never forget, but also the escalating tomato the presidents fitness in a troubling campaign excusing press conference in vietnam it was we have the highlights and former president trump though is pulling and major crowds this weekend, the update on his possible hearing this week is a florida surgeon general like to begin, and snowboarding, do not get covid-19 booster shots the updated virginia governor glade young can come up targeting a father and a school board meeting and plus energy secretary grand home, fines &, what you already know, electric cars do not work on road trips. so this white house cut it out with the top-down

larry: that is overcome buttodag internet or by the way, larry will be joined by kelly and conway louisiana senator, johny through the next hour. >> congratulations that was a lot of fun and let's get right at it and here's what is happening now, president o

there will not be a general millie or a general kelly or a general mcmaster or a john bolton. it will be all sycophants. it will be all steven millers and sebastian gorkas. does that argument concern you? >> sure. look, i think it's almost certain that the top level of the second trump term will be the bottom level on january the 20th, 2021. and then it will go downhill from there. but the consequence doesn't mean that the government will then be under his control. i think one of the greatest dangers that a second trump term brings would be constitutional crisis. who is he going to nominate to be attorney general? and when the attorney general gi gives an order for trump, say prosecute john kerry for violating the logan act, and the attorney general asks some of the career people to do that and they say no and resign. and the entire department of justice begins to resign. what happens when he gives illegal orders to the career military and they start to resign? that's, i think that's what we're going to have. it's not so much the threat of trump asserting his authority as the

. >> john, could you help us explore this idea that kelly just brought up, higher neutral rate.s a lot of gobbledygook to a lot of people, some days it's gobbledygook to me. but the idea that powell hinted at yesterday in response to my question that maybe the neutral rate is higher, does that mean a higher funds rate for longer, higher interest rates for longer? and in addition, kelly brought up the idea of debt. what is behind that, and is it something we should be making lower or do you just live with it? >> i think you have to live with it, but there's calculations, there's difference of opinions. i think -- remember, it used to be 2%, now it's down to 1%. now it's creeping back again, at least that's what the fed is saying. i think if that's the case, we'll see a normal interest rate, 2% inflation, 2% real, that's 4%. maybe that's where we will be eventually, but i think that's what people should think about. and probably that's what is going on in the markets right now. maybe the calculations about that will affect monetary policy. we don't know. >> steve, quick last word,

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john kirby saying the u.s. is deeply concerned. and there is a u.n. security council emergency meeting scheduled for today on this topic. frances? >> kelly, thank you. >>> libya's recovery continues just a week after some devastating floods killed thousands there. the city of derna was one of the hardest hit with tens of,000 feared dead. >> but it wasn't one failure that led to this level of destruction. angie lassman joins us with a look at the series of event tass caused this catastrophe. gove good morning. >> you're right. it's more than one bad storm but that is where it all started. stormdaniel wreaked havoc in the mediterranean region last week hitting turkey, greece and bulgaria, and it turned into a rare type of storm called med cain it's a combination, and we usually see them once or twice a year according to noaa they saw winds reaching up to 80 miles per hour that's when the weather agency issued warnings and derna's mayor called for evacuation. but two dams north of the city were already strained. and in the early hours of september 11, the upper dam collapsed sending billions of gallons into the smaller dam which eventually

john sale, former assistant u.s. attorney, and he worked in the famed southern district of new york like kelly, giuliani, others.m. he was also asked to represent donald trump in the federal case, and he declined. something we've discussed before. welcome back, sir. >> thanks, ari, nice to be back. >> what do you loyalty, as welle like miss ellis, who seems to be adjusting her views of him? >> well, as an outsider, loyalty to donald trump sounds like a one-way street. but i have to say something about the times we are living in, because when they told us how we got here, when he mentioned richard nixon was barred from the presidency. and if he had more time, he would have explained it. he stepped down because of bipartisan atmosphere. it was the republicans who called for him to step down because they couldn't support him. we live in a totally different time right now. i mean, it's very scary. there was a university of chicago study that showed that 12 million people would favor violence to support donald trump. and somebody who i always talk responsible as governor huckabee, just the other day, said that if the

is more than overdues kelly for talent and job from the center for middle east and global for to think time. many thanks for your time today. libby is eastern government has told john list to leave the floods the state and city if they're not. administer said reports is what impeding the work of rescue teams. critics say the authorities are trying to avoid international scoops fruits and they a monday that would process and there are no demanding accountability for the authorities . salia to maintain, to dams, which collapsed during storms. last week, thousands of residents were killed in the flooding. the catastrophe is also left tens of thousands homeless and in need of clean water, then basic supplies. and i also need the analyst and commentate to i had the wireless. if there's a risk, the current protests in libya could grow and potentially deepen the current crisis . the oh absolutely, the entire country is extremely shocked with the turn of events. this is not so i don't think libya was prepared for it and it was certainly not something that would be as expected and addressed to a so high. so we high hoover, we saw some people encountering and this is not the

john? >> thank you, kate. joining us is attorneys michael more and tim haefey. and now, looking at former senators kelly loeffler and michael purdue, and with respect to the overturning of the 2020 presidential election, and we are spect to the overturning of the presidential election it was 13 yay and 7 no for lindsey graham indictment. and david purdue, 17 yes and 4 no. and kelly loeffler, 7 yes and 14 no. and so you have known that the grand jury will indict a ham sandwich, but seven, a full third is telling you, no. is that reason enough for fani willis to say, this is not a road that we should go down? >> it is and the old adage is that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich and you don't want half a sandwich and this is what they did with sitting senator, and former senators, and it is not a risk worth it to put a bunch of defendants in a rico case, and put people in there that have folks who are supposed to be on your side or input more readily with the special purpose grand jury, and so they are not so sure that you could prove that. and remember, they have been cross-examined, and no defense ca

kelly for talent and job from the center for middle east and global for to think time. many thanks for your time today. thank you. now libby is eastern governments has told john list to leave the floods the state and city of darn administer, said reports his gun lists, what impeding the work of rescue teams? critics say the authorities are trying to avoid international security on monday that was protests and done at the mom think accountability for authorities, failure to, to maintain, to dams, which collapse during stones last week. thousands of residents were killed and the catastrophe has also left tens of thousands homeless and in need of clean water and basic supplies. i like to welcome i a bull while she's a widely published security expert and commentator with a special focus on libya. thanks for joining us. i a, is there a risk that these protests and done a could grow and, and was some the current crisis, the oh, absolutely. the entire country is extremely shocked with the turn of events. this is not so i don't think uh, libya was prepared for it. you know, certainly not something that would be as expected. and the dial tone was so high. so we high

kelly. i'm interested in your take on it i have found fed officials to be very much in the middle. when johnys, policy is in a good place, you've got to take note of that that's a phrase that powell has used in the past to sort of say, hey, we're okay where we are a good place could mean we have to hike a little bit more. and then you have susan collins saying that we're at or near the peak rate. so i find that the market has been struggling, but i feel like it's not struggling because of what the fed's been saying i feel like it's struggling because of a whole bunch of other reasons. the fed i don't think has been really hawkish in that sense yes, they're watching it, they are concerned. it's important to note, some of this data that we have all been very excited about, could be revised. we had waller on he said, we've been burned before that's why they are more circumspect about the progress >> greg, either they are or should be. it was in response to the services report. the november rate jumped to above 50%. but steve's right, greg. we haven't heard officials being too, you know, hawkish

kelly. >> appreciate it. thank you. why all right. scott how about a trump, kennedy inspect ticket. how about anything guess it is selection. who it is the churn. who knows what is next. johne greg on a flooded brooklyn streets wearing a speedo. if you have video of that send it to me immediately. and pixilate it. amy from south carolina you got more mafia nick names then and there in all 5 science of the sa p sop sopranos. motorcycle from new jersey we learn who had killed tupac27 years until we learn had brought cocaine in the white house. where andy from virginia casper, wyoming torch all the buses and file an insurance claim. cutting your losses. now tell be hard for them to do this now this we announce today on television. good luck. kevin from maine. what coxa tu do you have. i med it up. and was obvious i said ittate my minipoodle and best of your memoried out a feather. if you didn't know i was kidding have another drink has anybody told you will look like recess if friends. may be heard it once or twice. i think i'm better looking. that's all. dvr the show. always remember i'm watters and this is my world. >> welcome to the friday special edition of han

john. >> and thank you, sara. the news is who was not charged. who was not charged. one sitting u.s. senator lindsey graham, and two sitting senators kelly loeffler and michael perdue. and with us is shan wu, and now, to be clear, lindsey graham was not indicted, and the question is why. was it because the special grand jury showed reservations only voting by 13-7 to indict him? is that what caused fani willis trepidation or the difficulty in charging a u.s. senator or maybe the evidence? >> picking between the three, john, it is more likely the evidence. as you have been pointing out, that since we can't see the transcripts and the evidence and seeing a summary here, the votes, i'm a little bit skeptical of that, but there is some distinctions to be made, and having indicted hundreds of grand jurors indictments, i can tell you that the vote did not matter to us, unless it is slim and almost a deadlock to it, but to michael's point, this is a grand jury who had been focused on the one case for a long time, and therefore the weight of those votes might have carried a lot more meaning to the prosecutor in making the decisions. it is also,

kelly, thanks. mark, that's one of issues here. >> yeah. i was personally actually looking forward to watching some stuff that was written by a.i. because i'm not sure i need to watch johnt when they're just kind of rehashing the same old ideas over and over and over again. maria: i don't know. >> and i think it's a contradiction to go after streaming revenues when we know what's happening with the dreaming revenues for the big media companies. it's actually compression, and everybody's trying to figure out the model. good luck trying to take a bite out of an industry that the industry itself hasn't yet figured out to make it profitable. maria: we'll see if this informs at all on the autoworkers' strike. they're on their seventh day right now. >> everyone's on strike. the nurses, screen writers, autoworkers, strike season. i don't know. maria: i do know, it leads back to bad policy, and that is inflationary. mark tepper, kaylee mcghee white, thank you so much. see you again tomorrow the, everybody. "varney & company" picks it up now. stu, take it away. stuart: good morning, maria, and good morning, everyone. we're in the last two days of summer. there is dramatic news t

kelly last week. okay. this past weekend, we've got it. do extra summary things? yes, i know if i did i got outside. it was it was quite nice, john. yeah. we summary things plus pumpkin that's how all works of california. still get to wear the shorts and a t-shirt and our fall forecast starting saturday and sunday is actually going to be a little warmer. then our next couple of days are going to be so cool in the summer and then a warm start to fall foot flopping a little bit. >> looking outside right now, we've got the nice sunshine for almost all of the bay area. >> a few low clouds here and there just a compliment to our clear morning. now current temperatures are 50's and 60's. we've had a bit of that crisp fall feel during our morning hours. our evening lows are starting to get a little bit cooler. part of that's because our evenings are getting a little bit longer. now, temperatures this afternoon will rise into the 70's and 80's a whole lot like they were yesterday, which i think most of us enjoy. i'll be talking the rest of this forecast. still to come over to rain. all right. that check in on those rich kids for you. 90 minutes

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