when i joined live by john kerry k, a former c i a analyst and whistleblower john, thank you very much indeed for your time. so 1st of all, were you surprised by anything and this yahoo news report? there were a couple of things that surprised me. first was that 30 former people would, would speak to my michael cauthen to other journalists about this. you know, what must have been a very, very sensitive operation or proposed operation. i'm glad that they did. i'm glad that the truth is finally getting out about what effects do you think this report will have on people or journalists thinking of exposing the truth and whistle blurring. then? well, i think it's very important as max blumenthal said, and as, as, as notice tweeted today that, that the world to understand that the united states is trying to criminalize journalism. they refuse to accept the fact that julian assange is a journalist. that the american people only information and they have the right to know what it is and that the government behind their backs, the back of the american people, is trying to assassinate someone w