made clear pretty early on that they were not going to subpoena me or the other reporters who john kiriakou had talked to. partly as i mentioned, they had these e-mails between reporters and kiriakou. what did happen, this was completely unexpected, john kiriakou's lawyer subpoenaed some of us including me. this was sort of an unusual situation because why would the source want to come in and talk about your dealings with him. i didn't like the idea of going into court talking about a confidential source even with the permission of the source. we objected to that and pushed back and eventually they decided not to do it. in that process, john kiriakou did give me in writing sort of waiver that said, i authorized scott shane to talk about our previously confidential exchanges. what happened actually be i suppose i can talk about this and it's sort of an interesting story, after he was indicted in january 2012, my first instinct was to call the guy and say, look i'm really sorry. i felt partly responsible. certainly i had absolutely no intention obviously of seeing this guy criminally charged.

work in government, in the cia, former cia agents and their interest in talking to you now that john kiriakou is in prison? >> yes. i think most of my colleagues who cover national security would say there's definitely an impact. it's not just kiriakou with six cases as i mentioned, this i don't think by any plan. there's one guy working for the state department, one guy working for the fbi, one guy working in the military, one guy working for n.s.a. all these agencies now have one case of somebody being prosecuted and if the goal is as some folks in the government say it is, to deter others from talking to the press, i think it's working to some degree. i think there is a chilling effect. i don't blame people frankly. the line between what's classified and what's unclassified has always been somewhat blurred. these cases have made it even more blurred and a lot of people these would be congressional staffers, members of congress, current intelligence officers former intelligence officers and intelligence officials. the obligation to protect classified information is a lifetime obligation tha

think that's what the government's point was i think i think this case is much bigger than just john kiriakou it goes to freedom of speech and freedom of the press and i think there's a there's a real war on free speech right now kiriakou is now in jail serving a thirty month sentence which brings us to the second reason why it might be time for holder to go prosecutorial overreach in january of this year internet activist aaron swartz killed himself as us facing several charges of computer fraud and abuse carrying with them a thirty five year prison sentence parents family blames overly aggressive d.o.j. prosecutors for hounding aaron to death and then there are the current prosecutions of internet hacktivist jeremy hammond and barrett brown both could be facing wildly disproportionate prison sentences for the crimes they've committed. plus the d.o.j. is currently fighting a four year lawsuit by the electronic privacy information center demanding to know if holder's d.o.j. illegally surveilled on wiki leaks supporters and of course there's holder's overzealous prosecution of drug violations

sherman i said did run to the defense of drake or do you run to the defense of former cia agent john kiriakou who blew the whistle on torture within the agency for exposing this crime kiriakou was also charged under the espionage act he's now in prison serving thirty months and nothing for bradley manning either one of you exposed to the american people quote what happens and why it happens in our wars abroad he blew the whistle on this particularly disturbing video from baghdad where a dozen people including two reuters journalists were killed by an american apache attack helicopter manning is facing another secret pretrial today and has been in detention for more than one thousand days the number of hearings held in chairman ises oversight committee on manning's detention zero. so what is going on here what's behind these stark differences in how whistleblowers are treated well for one we have to question whether or not today's benghazi hearing witnesses are actually whistleblowers there's a difference between on one hand exposing crime in wrongdoing and on the other hand second guessing de

say whistleblower john kiriakou is speaking out former cia operative best known for blowing the whistle on the cia's use of waterboarding is speaking out from behind bars initially charged under the espionage act karaoke three months into his thirty month sentence having pled guilty to lesser charges and a letter sent to his attorney just a lot of rhetoric which was published with his consent on the blog fire dog lake carry on details experience inside the federal correctional facility in laredo concealed mania. being designated as a public safety threat. describes being moved to serve a sentence in the general population rather than a federal work camp as previously discussed kiriakou went on to say that his reputation has preceded him while in the radio and described various run ins with commanding officers one verbal exchange ending in the following an hour later for ceo's descended on both of our cells trashing all of our worldly possessions in my first shakedown lesson learned ceos can treat us like subhumans but we have to show them full respect even when it's not earned we'll kee

the department of justice under his leadership from you know the persecution of my own case to john kiriakou all the other ones that we've named but it ought to be about justice and it has been has been about you know protecting this administration and doing pretty much whatever they want to in travelling on the constitution and you know we have to be a better country than that especially issues going on there colonel we have to leave it there thank you so was colonel morris davis law professor at howard university. well you are when you eat that's how the old saying goes however could you actually know what you're putting in your mouth food or eating well the documentary o.m. g g m o sets out to investigate just that now with. the news with the flu comes to one industry anything that's too big to fail is to be a fun song the old threatens to sue the state there's nothing to hide and go. right to supporting your. not organic you get it free market might even. well with me now to talk more about these issues over food and food safety the executive per cent of o.-m. g. g.m.o. live the senate's

these for these whistleblowers and thinking where was he when when thomas drake where was he with john kiriakou. where's he been with with bradley manning or any of these people who've suffered the wrath of the obama administration in their crackdown on whistleblowers it's as though you have to you know be attached to some sort of political agenda to get the sort of protection you need as a whistleblower nowadays and that's really unfortunate because was a pollution be politicized we need them too much they're too important the truth is not a partisan issue and whistleblowers whether or not they're factually correct. should be protected in government needs to hear from them both congress and the agencies and the fact that congressmen ice a pick certain whistleblowers to champion and not others just shows that maybe he's not really with whistleblowers as much as he is with certain issues as far as kind of this crackdown goes in this kind of growth of surveillance and things like that a lot of this was started under the bush administration has just been ramped up now with the obama administration

essentially it was a story of john kiriakou former cia officer who was a source for me and for any number of national security reporters around washington. after he retired from the cia. and how through a lot of twist and turns, he ended up being the first cia officer to be in prison for leaking classified information to the american press. never happened before and now he's in federal prison in

the story of jealousy i dash of jailed cia officer john kiriakou. >> "washington journal" continues. we want to welcome carolyn atwell-davis with the center for missing and exploited children. her story continues to get a lot of attention in ohio. the big question everyone is asking is how could this have happened. guest: we would love to know at the national center how this could have happened. there are people out there who prey on oury duo children and will take them and keep them for many years. at the national center, when we heard the wonderful news that the three women had been recovered, we were thinking when jc do guard -- jacie captive by was being sex offender in california. these children were captive at the time we were rejoicing in her recovery. many many others. we wonder how many are still out there right now who are listening to the news and wondering when they are going to be recovered. law enforcement just does wonderful work. they cannot find everyone, but they are doing a much better work now than they were doing 40 years ago. we have much better laws, much bette