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of the espionage act is former cia whistleblower and co-host of latin clear out sputnik radio john kiriakou welcome john things good to see you again john i know really doesn't know you are in the worst way just awful john i mean obviously you followed this case because it very closely mirrors you know what happened with you what what was your initial reaction thoughts when you heard this plea deal come down i was shocked at the severity of the sentence here in the eastern district of virginia where most of us have been charged and tried. everybody's convicted because it's considered to be the espionage court that's what they call it but the sentences were like thirty months for me forty two months for jeffrey sterling but jeffrey for example went to trial and was found guilty of nine felonies reality winner took a plea to one felony. and she did. not turn over any information that contains sources and methods as you pointed out that this was an analytic piece so nothing was was exposed and she got sixty three months and it's not just the sixty three months she gets three years also supervi

and then mueller opened what was called the john kiriakou task force with an effort to finding crimesook about it what are you asking for now. >> i would be forever indebted to the president for a pardon. this president sun like other presidents. you know, barack obama and bill clinton, they gave pardons and commutations as they were running out the door at the end of their term. so they didn't have to face any political fallout. this president is different. this president accepts political responsibility for his decisions. he has been pardoning people sings he got into office because he knows that he is doing the right thing. he sees an injustice and he corrects it. and i'm humbly asking him to correct this. brian: you know what? open up the case and if what you say is true. i think you certain solid a strong case. john. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. brian: meanwhile straight ahead, hud secretary ben carson joins us. is he live next. his urban program getting a lot of attention. everything fo. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hou