now he's never going to get a fair trial look what this judge did to john kiriakou it's the same court they dismissed seventy two motions that john kerry got that filed this judge they're known for pursuing these national security cases and there's not a snowball's chance that if he's extradited here he will have a fair shot there's no way. i understand i'm sorry i don't really emotional pleas please when it's done that a lot a lot of his supporters will be amassing outside of the core we believe there's a small crowd gathering now will you be going there yourself or what kind of action will you be taking post nearly if any and in full support of the protesters who are in london right now oh and i'm glad that everybody can finally see the toll that this is been taking on him in the torture that he's going through in the embassy and i hope that it galvanizes people to get out into the streets in protest. to sondra the statement by the department of justice says that julian assange faces a maximum of five years in prison if you found guilty and it also says and let me do a quick read out

officials have already deemed the sons guilty now if you hours ago i spoke with john kiriakou a veteran whistleblower who felt the full impact of the u.s. judicial machine when it comes to treating men like him what i asked him was why he believes julian assange should be granted a for a fair trial in the states is his answer judge be on the brink of mob is a former federal prosecutor. on national security or herself she hears he's. going to the us. has ever wanted. it but i guess i was right so are you documents that i need to defend myself. all. i suspect your leaders say you're just not be allowed. but if you think it's just journalists or whistle blowers who have been supporting his sons will know we one of the store interest and most vocal supporters of a songe throughout the years of his asylum and now to what were the united nations about when he was holed up in the asylum they demanded in the condemned the u.k. for not allowing for not granting a son to the freedom of movement he'd been saying that he should definitely be should have definitely been allowed that now they've step

john kiriakou cia whistleblower thank you so much for joining us a nazi international today we appreciate it. thanks for having me. well back in twenty twelve aussie run a political interview series hosted by judy in a song coming up next is part two of the well tomorrow with that with flynn and fellow. american writer david horowitz. time julian assange. editor of wiki leaks expose the world secrets these documents belong the united states government being attacked by the powerful united states strongly condemned by you broke the law illegally shoot the son of a full five hundred days now by being detained without charge but that hasn't stopped at the park. today on a quest for revolutionary ideas that can change the world tomorrow. today i am joined by an intellectual superstar the slovenian philosopher. a former anti communist dissident now turned so described communist together we call david horowitz a former left wing radical black panther ally now a fiery right wing zionist i want to know what they think about the future of europe and the united states the conversation becomes heate

you words about that like for example john kiriakou a veteran whistleblower who as you've mentioned before he appears on our programs quite regularly he's basically said that a fair trial in the eastern district of virginia and a judge leonie brinkema. is utterly impossible they don't call the espionage court like a spanish court for of for nothing also we've had glenn greenwald and i mean john kerry arco he's well he's felt the full brunt he's felt the full impact of the u.s. justice system when it comes to whistleblowers personally glenn greenwald for instance he's also said that basically the u.s. charge and this statement of the u.s. district department of justice of the attorney's office that it is the criminalization of journalism because they're saying that look songes guilty is has committed a crime by encouraging chelsea manning to provide as many secret documents as possible and glenn greenwald an investigative journalist himself is making a point and well that's basically that's what any journalist does when he has a source so here's a source he tries to get as much information

age of yet another taught us well it was supposed to say i was a blood john kiriakou about the legacy of julie innocent. there's a rumor here in washington of long standing that he will be charged with espionage in the eastern district of virginia a federal court which is known as the espionage court i don't i don't think any other country has the guts to support him you know the united states is so tough so strong and so willing to bully other countries that. excuse me but that i don't i don't think other countries see it in their national interests to stand up for somebody like him you know time wise in the very beginning when he first entered the embassy that perhaps a country like like iceland or cuba or ecuador would come to his aid no more the british have made very clear that as soon as he steps outside that embassy they'll arrest him now they're going to arrest him on on very very minor charge which is failure to appear in court it's a charge that nobody else would pay any attention to it's enough just to hold him until he can be turned over to the americans that this is one o