so that's some reaction instead from the whistleblower former cia officer john kiriakou kindly joins me on the line not supposed to join this this move that we're talking about here do you think it's an effective won't will immigration services actually capsules people have been a bit careless by using such techniques do you think. you know certainly not then this is a this is an old trick used by local police departments to infiltrate protest groups to see what opponents of the police are doing is something that's been adopted now as a harassment technique by immigration services here can you imagine the manpower necessary to monitor the social media of the thousands tens of thousands of people every year who apply for immigrant visas we had a episode here in the united states just a week ago where a young palestinian man who had been accepted to harvard university no less was denied entry at the border because immigration authorities looked at his social media and found that his friends had posted pro palestinian posts not that he did it but that his friends did it and they use tha

perceptions investigative journalist ben swan and immigration attorney alan or jr and former cia officer john kiriakou thank you all 3 for coming in today i want to start with harper woods an agency that would be dedicated to amassing our mental health data and then using ai to sift through the data in order to predict which one of us might be dangerously violent in a show of hands here at the table who here totally trust the u.s. government and their ability to conduct this agency responsibly if it was created this is absolutely ridiculous right at the end of the day ben i'll go with you 1st i mean what do you make of this. well look i think it goes far beyond just even the idea of do you trust them to handle it correctly the very creation of this new agency cannot be trusted because there's nothing that works about this in terms of constitutionality there's no due process involved in this it is literally an agency that would be set up and designed in a way to say we're going to figure out who is a threat to our society before they do anything threatening which goes against everything inside of the c

put mental people mental health issues on lists i want to thank everyone for coming on debate john kiriakou eleanor jr and ben swan thank you all 3 for coming on the day all right as we go to break off watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics you cover the other social media be sure to check out watching our to the podcast which is now available on spotify up and going everywhere you go see the podcast coming up the one and only my co-host tappable wallace opens up the gallery of how our efforts to be healthier may actually be killing us you don't want to miss that stay tuned for watching. and. it's a dangerous new statistically mistake this. terrible is that simple. and simple to do the time the chase. as compared to making the triple tariff so is it dangerous to misunderstand that it be just that those people who got to do the things here. during the great depression which are old enough to remember there was most of my family were employed. there wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation that things were going to ge

advance its agenda who knows if the same standards will apply whistleblower and former cia officer john kiriakou since the new policies could push social media users to switch from american by stunts to better protected networks this is an old trick used by local police departments to infiltrate a protest group. to see what opponents of the police are doing is something that's been adopted now as a harassment technique by immigration services here this is american exceptionalism isn't it it's ok for the united states because we're the good guys it's not ok for anybody else because they're not the good guys this catches up after a while and this is going to make friends and foes alike angry and think twice about u.s. policy specially as it comes to immigration i would point to platforms or organizations that are that are hosted overseas that are encrypted that are better protected things like proton through example. that that the united states doesn't have to reach into there is no backdoor there is no secret handshake with the c.e.o. of the company and the cia or n.s.a. or f.b.i. i hope that peo

relationship between world leaders and makes it dangerous to negotiate with the us former cia officer john kiriakou believes that washington's means could also damage is foreign policy i think that is a fishing expedition i saw that this morning in the u.s. media and you know we have this thing in the united states called executive privilege where the executive branch of government is allowed to conduct business to carry out the diplomacy of the united states in private without having to answer to capitol hill the democrats are looking for more information specifically related to russia that they can use to impeach donald trump doesn't trump will invoke executive privilege and would refuse to turn those documents over that's going to be in the foreign relations of the united states and the relations that we had with other countries if you care if you're a foreign leader you can't trust the president of the united states to keep a secret then who can you trust and as a result this will damage u.s. foreign policy. this we saw a fresh wave of global climate protests including in canada where thousands

also, my interview with john kiriakou, a former cia whistle-blower and quite relevant thinking how this us now. right now it's "hardball with chris matthews." >>> all the president's money. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. we have breaking news tonight on impeachment. "the wall street journal" is now rrting secretary of state mike pompeo was among the trump officials listening in on that july phone call when the president pushed ukrainian president zelensky to dig up dirt on joe biden. that's according to sign yor state department official. though nbc news has not spoken to the official cited in the story, even t

also, my interview with john kiriakou, a former cia whistle-blower and quite relevant thinking how this story evolves from here. that does it for us now. right now it's "hardball with chris matthews." >>> all the president's money. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. we have breaking news tonight on impeachment. "the wall street journal" is now rrting secretary of state mike pompeo was among the trump officials listening in on that july phone call when the president pushed ukrainian president zelensky to dig up dirt on joe biden. that's according to sign yor state department official. though nbc news has not spoken to the official cited in the story, even though pompeo had firsthand knowledge what was said on that call, as we now learned, he was evasive when asked about that conversation just a week ago. >> "the wall street journal" is reporting that president trump pressed the president of ukraine eight times to work with rudy giuliani to investigate joe biden's son. what do you know about those conversations? >> so you just gave me a report about