still with us, john kiriakou.later jailed from his two years for revealing the cia had water bordered abu zubaydah. we're also joined by one of abu zubaydah's lawyers mark denbeaux , professor at seton hall university school of law and the director of its center for policy and research. john kiriakou, i want to continue with you. talk about how abu zubaydah was caught and where you were, how you were involved with his capture. >> sure. abu zubaydah was captured in pakistan in late march 2002. i happened to be the chief of cia counterterrorism operations. we have been looking for abu zubaydah for about six weeks. we were able to narrow down his possible location to one of 13 sites. we hit all 13 sites simultaneously at 2:00 in the morning. he happened to be in one of those sites. i was at a safe house nearby. i was in radio contact with all of our officers who were at the site. when i say "our officers," i mean there were teams of cia, fbi, and pakistani intelligence officers. abu zubaydah was shot when he was tryi

in 2021, the cia whistleblower john kiriakou also revealed an aide to giuliani had told him a pardon would cost $2 million. kiriakou appeared on democracy now! in 2021 and talked about meeting giuliani at the trump hotel in washington during the summer of 2020. >> one of his aides who was there at the meeting then said to me, rudy does not talk about pardons, up to talk to me. and he going to ask you for $2 million. and i laughed. i said, i don't have to lean dollars. i said, are you out of your mind? why would i spend $2 million to recover a $700,000 pension? that does not make any sense. and i dropped it. but he said that is what the price was. amy: and in news from capitol hill, california democratic congressmember robert garcia has introduced a resolution to expel republican george santos, who was indicted last week by the justice department for wire fraud, money laundering, and theft of public funds. garcia introduced the resolution through a process called a privileged motion in an attempt to force the house to vote on it within two days. santos would be expelled if two-thirds