>> good evening commissioners, john kwaung from public works. we read through briefs from the appellant and as it relates to the statement by the department to frequently asked questions posted in a website. i would like to use the appellants exhibit and explain why we believe there is a misunderstanding here. i have the frequently asked questions, but he's referring to -- if you can go to the box area. as you can see the first line states can these cabinets be placed underground? i know there has been underground in other cities. that is not a statement by the department as part of frequently asked questions. this is a statement by someone who is asking the department whether it can be underground. this is not a statement. it's a question and our response is whatever feasible on every permit application we require at&t and other applicants with certain amounts of facilities to make a determination whether they can place these facilities underground. the response is technologically not feasible or facilities underground that prohibits to be unde