so this thing about john kyl and i is that after the election when we're going to be out of office we going to be more inflexible. [laughter] >> some might wonder if that could be. in my case, only in my case. you know, this is a great frustration obviously. you can understand president obama. a different point of view than many of us hoping that through his intelligence, personality, and different points of view that maybe the russians would be receptive to a new approach which is sort of the entire bush approach. you can understand why he might think he could succeed at that. and therefore try this out. so i an not criticizing him for trying. you can question whether he should reasonably have come to that conclusion, but nonetheless he tried it. i hope he can appreciate that has failed and is not likely to succeed because of a variety of reasons in the you cannot keep going down the path chasing after somebody. without doing some damage to yourself. piquancy places where that has occurred. just to cite one example, the very difficult situation. just to mention one example. >> missil

senator john kyl and i have worked on immigration and debt tax relief. senator lamar alexander and i have championed the america competes act so that we would continue the priority of scientific research and that we would never fail to invest in our future because of our economy. i am very pleased the distinguished ranking member of the judiciary committee and the finance committee, and judiciary before. has also on the floor. it has been a wonderful friend to me helping me in this first election when he was the rock star on fund raisers in texas and i thank senator orrin hatch for his strong leadership in this body. and i have had a wonderful good fortune to serve with two colleagues from my home state. first senator phil gramm who was a wonderful mentor and colleague. they broke for mold after senator graham and we always enjoyed our school rivalry, he being a texas aggie and me being the university of texas, they like to call from hopeless, but we are proud of them. and i have had a great relationship with my other senator who will soon be the senior

. >> retiring senators joe lieberman and john kyl discuss iran's nuclear program, syria's civil war and the israeli-palestinian conflict. senator lieberman chairs the homeland security committee and senator kyl chairs the terrorism subcommittee. from the foundation for the defense of democracy this is just under an hour. >> thank you so much. i will thank you more formally in a few minutes the we will start with a conversation, this is a wonderful time to pick your brain and talk with you. let me start with you if i may. when you came to congress the united states was engage in a cold war against the fatality rate regime. as you leave the senate the united states is engaged in an asymmetrical war against i would argue totalitarian regimes, movements and ideologies. have you made any progress? >> we have made progress. i was about to quote when in, two steps forward , two steps forwardlenin , two steps forward, two steps forward and two steps back. it was progress when the berlin wall went down and the soviet union collapsed, remarkable expansion of freedom generally throughout central a

[applause] >> next we'll move to jon kyl. john does a curator of the book lost in 1775 from a site dedicated to history, analysis and unabashed gossett asserted the american revolution inkling. recently completed a study in general washington during the siege of the national park service. he saw soviet about doing good count watchman at the boston massacre, the way the encrypt these in 1765 in the towns celebration. ask them about the crazy event annually. he has lectured on many historical societies, including this one. thought -- i'm sorry, john bowa. [applause] and todd interlake, 18th century newspapers is you could no doubt tell. he is one of the most significant collections of american revolution newspapers containing the earliest printed reports of every battle from 1763 to 1783. todd is curator publisher before history.com, an online in an educational archive of historically significant newspapers dating back to the 16th century. [applause] >> so we will open up a question-and-answer with our panel. >> let me just say todd

senators john mccain and jon kyl should be fighting for the 28,000 people who would be affected in arizona. it's not clear if they will. and the list goes on and on. unemployment benefits are vital to the economic security of millions of americans, and the continued recovery of the u.s. economy as a whole. this should not be a bipartisan issue. let's bring in john nichols, washington correspondent for "the nation" magazine. brother nichols, who will be most affected if no deal is reached. not the very reach who can afford to deal with in a very serious fashion. not even the upper middle class. but tell us about those clinging to the bottom of the ladder? >> well, those clinging to the bottom of the ladder are not the most impoverished people in america. they tend to be folks who we know, our sisters, our brothers, our cousins. somebody down the street, who got laid off at the start of this deep, deep recession. and as things started to get better, maybe they lived in a part of america, particularly a rule area, or an older industrialized city, where the economy has just not come back as ra

cardin, to john mccain, to the others, to my colleagues standing on this epodium today to senator john -- jon kyl also who is very much a leader in this regard. particularly with regards to senator cardin. he's been my partner on the commission since i've been in the united states senate and his devotion to the cause of human rilings, to the helsinki presence pls, is something that makes me proud to be his colleague. this is a pro-russian vote today, as senator mccain said. for the leadership of russia, the passage of this legislation is an accomplishment and an admonition at the same time. we welcome additional trade. we mississippians welcome additional exports to russia and the jobs that will create in russia and in the united states of america. at the same time, the signal is strong to russian officials, if you're involved in human rights e-- abuses such as the horrific sergei magnitski case, you're not welcome in the united states. you'll be denied a visa. you're not welcome to use our financial system. we feel strongly about this. it's a step. and it's a step that i think we can make the ca

trying to herd cats known as the republican conference and the's is being junior senator to john mccain. jon kyl does it in the right way. he has the temperament of a leader. he adopted 38 legislative years from the georgia legislature to the united states congress. i've known a lot of whips, a lot who cracked the whip, who were ineffective and very few who were effective and jon kyl is the most effective whip i've worked with or seen. he knows the issues and the ability to communicate them. he knows the importance and how to put the party ahead of individual priorities but to keep the country first no matter what it is. one good example mr. president. we were debating the start treaty which is very important for the united states and the president was on the foreign relations committee when we had that debate. he might remember there were people concerned about the modernization of our nuclear arsenal while we were renewing the start treaty and would what we would do while we made a new treaty in terms of modernization. it was jon kyl's leadership working with senator kerry, secretary of state

jon kyl, who told our john brandt, our senate producer there are signs of progress and he is hopefulill be able to come to the floor. moments ago we had senator mitch mcconnell, the to be senate republican walk in. he had spoken to the vice president last night after midnight. spoke to him again this morning at 6:30 in the morning. by those measures it certainly seems like there is a good pace, if you will, to discussions between the two key figures to the negotiations at this critical stage. bottom line, talks are ongoing. a lot of official channels have been pretty quiet about signs of progress but senator kyl in a candid moment he does hear there is progress. and they are hopeful, hopeful, we will get a deal at some point and perhaps bring it to the floor. heather? heather: mike, i want to ask you in terms of all the time changes, do they still look to reconvene at 11:00? is that the latest you've heard? >> reporter: that is the latest we are hearing. they will be back on the floor at 11:00 a.m.. we should get some comments at that point from the relevant senate leaders, mcconnell

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mcconnell, thune, kyl and barrasso. to john brasso. 's credit, he said i am a doctor.f troubles that people with disabilities have. i co-sponsored the bill. i voted for it out of committee. i was go to vote for it. yes get called on although i tried to ask him, senator barasso, you voted in favor of this treaty supported on the floor by former leader robert dole. are you disappointed in your colleagues? i asked him afterwards. he wouldn't go there. he said members would reserve -- could reserve their rights. but he, like some of the other representatives who were supportive of the treat couple kelly ayotte who put out a message debunking and when i tried to press lamar alexander who ordinarily wol have voted for a bill like this or at least in my experience would have, the statement from the his office was, well, it's not the right time to be talking about this treaty. we should be focusing on the fiscal cliff. >> what a copout. you said earlier, and i want to talk more about this when we come back from the break, there is a connection between this? >> yes, there is. >

kyl. for the past 18 years it has been my honor to serve alongside john here in the senate and it's been my great privilege to get to know him personally and work with him as closely as i have. jon has built a well-earned reputation as one of the great policy minds of our time. he has an encyclopedic knowledge of domestic and a keen interest in foreign policy. and we all know he's one of the hardest-working members of congress. he's been a leader on his own state's interest and he's emerged as one of the strongest leaders in our entire party opbd issue of nuclear strategy and arms control. jon has explained to an entire generation of republicans president reagan's enduring philosophy of peace through strength, and then applied it. jon has been a zealous proponent of strong missile defense, and more than any other senator he helped ensure that the u.s. had a working nuclear arsenal after the cold war had ended, because in his view, a strong america that can deter a threat is always the best avenue to peace. over the past decade jon has applied that same standard to the war on terror, and no

my mental image of jon kyl is jon striding through the halls of congress literally leaning into the wind. it is as if there's a 60-mile gale coming into his face and john paul is leading into it with determination, and i see his staff nodding their heads here. it's got to be hard to stay up with jon when he's got his mind on something and he's determined to get something done and he's leaning in liking a ship into a gale, marching forward to try to accomplish his mission. we all say, you know, that when someone leaves here, we're losing someone that maybe we can't replace. that may or may not be true. in my first generation when i gave my farewell speech there were probably a lot of people who said, well, we can find a substitute for coats, that won't be too hard. it is true. finding a replacement for jon kyl is a tall task. and it's going to be very, very hard to find someone that has the passion for his service, the intelligence and the knowledge of the issues that he engages in, the leadership qualities that he provides, the counsel that he provides to all of us. jon kyl's the go-to guy. jon kyl is the person you go to to say jon, how do we get this

kyl: thank you, madam president. if my colleagues would indulge me so i might respond. i am deeply moved and very appreciative of the remarks of my colleague, john mccain. people of arizona have been so fortunate to be represented by really a very few remarkable people in the state's history. only ten united states senators. john mccain is the ninth of those senators, and is as distinguished if not more distinguished than any who have served and represented the state of arizona. he has set a standard for modern representation after being elected to the house of representatives, none of the representatives from arizona were ever the same in their representation. he came home every week, maintained very close contact with his constituents, and set a pace that no one has since matched, let alone exceeded. so in many respects, john mccain has set a new standard for representation, but he didn't leave it at the state of arizona. he is a national figure of the first magnitude, one of our great national leaders of the day. and it has been an incredible honor for me to serve with him both in representing the people of our state, but also working on the