john l. lewis, the great coal mine leader, came from iowa, not from west virginia or the chairman's state, from pennsylvania. but in those days they had nothing. i mean, they worked underground, and they just, they had nothing. and so they all had what they -- they didn't call it miner's lung -- they didn't call it black lung. i never heard that until we came here, but we always called it miner's cough, miner's lung. that's just what they had. they might not have been totally disabled but, boy, their lives were not worth very much in terms of what they could do physically as they reached into their 50s, 60s, 70s. ages. so i'm glad that we got the rule out. secondly, the chairman hit upon the backlog of cases, but i also want to know what the department basically -- you touched on that, mr. lu, in your testimony. how we're leveling the playing field. a lot of times these minders don't have a lot -- miners don't have a lot of money, they don't have adequate come. they file their claim, it goes to dr.