he's a partner with john landau and john landau has fed him intellectually and been a good partner andr many, many years. but springsteen is... what's interesting about him, charlie is i went back... part of doing the work which is, again, not hard work, looking at u.b.s. of his old interviews. being interviewed by local t.v. people in new york. when he was 25 years old he was a... you know, he was all enthusiasm and not that articulate let's put it that way. now you interview him disease you've had him here in this chair. i've talked to him. big rounded intelligent paragraphs come issuing forth. it's a stunning difference. he's a human being who allowed himself and forced himself to get an education, to read, to learn, to be open to experiences remember in so so there was a guy... in the model... in "the sopranos" there was the exexploited manager? landau is the opposite. he came along in his life, understood him, was honest with him and pushed him. bruce want ised to splay all these small holes. landau has his eyes on the pot of gold and pushed him toward madison square garden. >> ro