-- to the chair, and john larsen -- to the chair, john larsen. we were nailing down the moment. >> where was that? >> with the members of a caucus. >> thank you, jim, we do with the members of the caucus. >> thank you, jim -- with the members of the caucus. >> thank you, jim. our strength. we brag on them to nine as coming together -- we brag on them tonight. we locked arms earlier this afternoon, jim clybourn, steny hoyer, nancy pelosi, and john lewis, who had just spoken at our caucus. when asked throughout the last several months and weeks about the votes, he wanted to know what the votes were. all you had to do is look into the eyes of our caucus. it was written on their faces, and more importantly, carried in their hearts, and in their hearts, they spoke to america this evening. we not only made history, we made a difference for america, and we did so primarily, as the majority leader has said, because of our outstanding speaker, nancy pelosi, and the leadership that works and tries to live up to the expectations and the standards that she s

john larsen, the chairman of the democratic caucus. and, of course, eric cantor, the republican whip. so, chairman larson, where are the votes? >> we have the votes. we will make history. lyndon johnson passed medicare. and today, barack obama will pass health care reform. demonstrating whose side we're on. >> let me pin you down. >> go ahead. >> you have the votes now? >> we have the votes now. >> you have 216 commitments now? >> yes. >> do you believe him? >> well, jonathan, let me tell you something, the american people don't want this to pass. the republicans don't want this to pass. there will be no republican votes for this bill. and frankly, i think if it does pass, it's because they're using everything in their political power. and even some things they shouldn't have in their political power, to cut political deals. >> like what? >> to deliver the votes. >> certainly, you have seen the kind of political kickback deals that have occurred. you have states like louisiana that are going to receive $300 million more for their healt

john larsen. former obama campaign manager and former bush senior white house adviser karl rove.the guests on fox news sunday hosted by chris wallace include paul ryan, house chief deputy whip debbie wasser man schultz, and john cornyn. on face the nation from cbs bob shafere talks with richard duh bin and mitch mcconnell and chris van hollen. and on cnn's state of the union candy rolly will be talking with mike pence and house democratic caucus chair john larsen. also, california democratic senator diane fine stine. and utah republican orerin hatch. our complete sunday replays of the tv talk shows resume next sunday starting at noon eastern on c-span radio 90.1 fm here on washington, d.c. you can follow us on facebook and twitter. host: more on health care with representative bessra, from california thanks for being with us. what's the final vote count today? guest: we win. what the vote count will be i can't tell you. some of these decisions are made at the last moment. host: who are the key votes? guest: there are members who are doing a lot of soul searching on the issue of a

thank you, john larsen. i received your kind words on behalf of all of our courageous members of the house of representatives who want the best for the american people. and what we can do that is best for them in the next 24 hours is to pass affordable, accessible health care for all americans. [applause] the best for all americans is to have 32 million more people to have health insurance in our country. the best for our country is to have $1.3 trillion in deficit reduction, so we're not amassing mountains of debt. the best for our country is to hold the insurance companies accountable and not let them come between patients and their doctors. [applause] we are on the verge of making great history for the american people, and in doing so, we will make great progress for them as well. the president has said over and over, we will measure our own success on the progress that has been made by america's working families. that is our responsibility and we will honor it when we vote on health care reform. we would

two leader reid, to steny hoyer, john larsen, cjim clyburn, to an extraordinary leader and an extraordinary speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, to all the members here today -- thank you very much for having me. thanks for having me and thanks for your tireless efforts waged on behalf of health insurance reform in this country. you know, i have the great pleasure of having a really nice library at the white house. and i was tooling through some of the writings of some previous presidents. i came upon this "by abraham lincoln. "i am not bound to win, but i am bound to be true. i am not bound to succeed, but i am bound to live up to what life i have." in this debate -- it has been a difficult debate. this process has been a difficult process. this year has been a difficult year for the american people. when i was sworn in, we were in the midst of the worst recession since the great depression. 800,000 people per month were losing their jobs. millions of people were losing their health insurance. the financial system was on the verge of collapse. this body has taken on some of the toughest vot