john like art laffer said, trade imbalances are not that big of an issue. i do find it very, very suspicious that two people know where they're at, xi and lau on the chinese side. we have mnuchin all over the place. we have light -- >> lighthizer. >> navarro, ross, everybody is in a different position. heather may be right, this may be to distract the opponent but i think we should have a concerted message. neil, i believe the reason why you saw this back off, like we saw with the zte situation, like we saw with some of the other concession with the chinese is that we're getting very close to the june 12th deadline where we have to sit down with kim jong-un. we need the chinese to make those talks successful. neil: bingo. i think you hit the nail on the head as you always do. john, one of the things that has come up we could demand, would prefer to demand a whole lot more of the chinese, but if we get a commitment on their part to buy more american goods ahead of this june 12th, north korean summit, that is a good start. what do you think? >> i agree what we said. i think we bluffed. heather mentioned that our opponents are confused if you consider the chinese