john leboutillier, pat caddell, doug schoen. hn, you spoke today at rolling thunder in front of 300,000 people. nice, big crowd for you. tell us about the rally and about the mood about what we're talking about here. >> well, a couple of things. i was amazed. i got here yesterday, i had been around hundreds personally of vietnam vets from every state. they came from all over the country. i cannot tell you how many of them watch political insiders, watch fox, and wanted to tell me that. i only watch fox, i love pat and doug and you. frankly, i think, speaking for pat and doug, we thank them for watching us, obviously. >> absolutely. >> but more importantly, i picked up a couple things. first of all, these guys and gals have paid -- their whole life has been spent fighting for the country, still promoting this cause of the p.o.w.s and other issues. and they believe in america more than ever. when you talk to them. they are disgusted with the political system, the political process. both political parties. they run up against it the

john leboutillier. pat caddell joining us via satellite. and doug schoan, a fox news contributor as well. doug, i'm going to start with you. we are now with two presumptive nominees rolling our way towards the general election. i want to get your thoughts on how it shapes up. irrespective of the polling and what people say. >> sure. >> just experience-wise, what you've seen. >> sure. here is what we have. hillary clinton begins with a slight five to ten-point lead. she has a clear advantage based on electoral history. there is, of course, a but. donald trump has the potential to expand and go into wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio to bring in working class whites, get new registrants, get democrats to cross over. this election will be can trump make this about hillary, can hillary make this about trump. so far, advantage clinton. >> your head is shaking so hard, john. >> well, i agree with 98% of what doug said. >> 2%? >> the last thing was -- i slightly disagree. i think hillary's job is so make trump the issue in the campaign. if sh