see, is john ledner, an independent researcher with a special focus on conflict in africa and the author of a forthcoming book on the wagner group. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story problem. let me start with you today. what message is president put in sending to the world by appearing on television with andre throw ship. is this from your vantage point? a clear sign that the kremlin will be exerting more control over the group? well, the kremlin, present, the bush in aspire to control the group or not the group of last rest of it because big we're really need the price. there's a problem there. is there need it in the primarily on the front rod, but also most of the day are operations in the middle east and that's really good too. so yes. so that's what basically pushing was going from the been kind of find the price of the partner price. so sent me a match or the retreat it from us. so there was a meeting in the crowd and one between push in the box, another group leadership. and then she was also pressing the same thing as why she did w