see, is john ledner, an independent researcher with a special focus on conflict in africa and the author of a forthcoming book on the wagner group. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story problem. let me start with you today. what message is president put in sending to the world by appearing on television with andre throw ship. is this from your vantage point? a clear sign that the kremlin will be exerting more control over the group of all the kremlin and present the fortune aspire to control the group or not the group of last rest of it because big, we're really need the price. there's a problem there. is there need this in the, primarily on the it printed in front rod, but also most of the day or operations in middle eastern that's really good to so yes, so that's what basically pushing was going from the been kind of find the prices of the partner prices sent me a match or the retrieve it from boss. so there was a meeting in the crime one between push in the box, another group leadership. and then she was also pressing the same thing as why