john les moss and j compare sending more a to ukraine, to dumping money into a black hole on one page. find the taurus corruption of box. we shouldn't be naive about um was a rocket on the bigger rock is in the appraisal. if you look at the amount of money that's been shuffled towards industrial ministry, conflicts in america, but have sprint. the thinking of research so not can, is, is compassion. the, in the cabinet is well by us. we need to take a slice of the cake as well and start to think we need to start thinking about how um, money can come a way and create jobs and help investment. i think that's, that's part of it. but the other thing which is more worrying thing is that we should never forget that ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and very much a black hole. wherever you send money into it, it just disappears. you know, any business we do with you guys, we have the front to the end, so it with we shouldn't be night, you know, there was going to be a lot of sliced off the top of that. so transaction, i'm just going to go to him and his and his clothe