to discuss these issues and more i'm joined by my guest john lockwood in paris he's a university lecturer and history of political philosophy in brussels we have look we have a he is an independent journalist and in cork we cross to geoffrey robertson he is america's professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish a cat. original macross up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated ok let's go to john in paris if you heard my introduction here until the e.u. respects russian treats russia as an equal partner this relationship isn't going to move anywhere it is a it's basically in a deep freeze right now and i and i and personally i think it's the e.u. that has a.