. >> i did want to say we have also inspector john loftis that is with us here today as well. >> supervisor avalos, question probably for the inspector as well. are we seeing continuation of reporting of people being scammed, members of the community scammed like this? >> supervisor, i think based on the tremendous outreach we have had, i think we are getting most of these reports. generally speaking, when an elderly person loses their life savings we will hear about it. i understand there is a bit of a disconnect with the elderly chinese community. especially if it is the immigrant population. based on the outreach we have done at central station, captain tom has done, a lot of work the special victim's unit has done with d.a. and s.a.f.e., i feel pretty confident. we have identified the vast majority of these victims, if not all of them. it what is interesting in this case, as captain tom said, the last victim -- the victim we watched the video on. the video is a little better than came across, so it was daytime. that victim was told about this scam a week prior at work, so our outreach i

lofty goals but they're very hard for us to hit. and i think with that i will yield back and we can continue the discussion. >> i do want to follow up, i assume johnas something to say as always because i can hear the gears turning from where i'm sitting, but let me get back to you on that. in terms of transparency from the public perspective that you laid out very well, there's a case that is often made on the behalf of -- [inaudible] as well. it's not just that she would spread it off and come had to do a sharing of information and resources so that a report that is available to one committee is able to all committees. so if you could sort of play that out a little as well. >> sure. i mean, these are all things that are sort of evolving, and i'll use the rules committee as an example, because in groups were i talk about what the rules committee does, we've got a number of different roles. and we can use a number of different analogies. we are both, one of the analogies we are both a traffic cop for the house, started directing that kind of routine legislative business, acting as the speakers represented to make sure that, you know, things flow t

lofty goals, but they're very hard for us to it. i think with that i will yield back and we can continue the discussion. >> i do want to follow up. i've seen john has something he wants to say as well. i can hear the gears turning from are sitting. you know, where -- let me come back to on that. transparency from the public perspective i think he laid it out very well. there is a case that is often made on behalf of transparency from internal congressional perspective as well. that's his constituents, but often has to do with sharing information and resources so that a report that comes to one committee coast of. everyone gets to see that same bill at the same time. >> sure. these are all things are evolving. if i will use the rules committee as an example. in groups try talk about the rules committee thus, we have a number of different roles. we can use a number of different analogies. we are both -- one of the analogies i use, we are both the traffic cop of the house, sort of directing that kind of 14 legislative business acting as the speakers representative to make sure that stick things love letters posted ross of the s.w.a.t. team of the