we'll also talk to the playwright john logan and the director michael grandage. >> although i never met rothko, i kind of loved him. it's because he embodies what i think is the greatest quality of any artist, which is... i mean, any creative person, which is that he's much, much more concerned with being listened to and understood than he is being w being liked or adored or admired in any way. >> that, for me, is what resounded in the play is that feeling that it's something that everyone can associate with. ken arrives on day one incredibly nervous. he then gradually learns from and sort of through osmosis and through listening takes on a lot of what rothko's saying but he also has this world outside the hermetically sealed submarine that is the... that is rothko coe's studio and begins to start to challenge rothko. >> the whole play, really, is an emotional and intellectual debate between two people where the paintings are, if you like, the third party in that debate. >> what i always say about the process of "red" is that it is a quartet. four people made this play, it was michael,

the supreme court is hearing a tick -- case today, and one in particular, john logan writes that christian legal society versus martinez is one of the most important debates about student rights and public colleges. i will pull this off and show you and the -- associated press story. the supreme court is grappling whether universities and colleges can deny official recognition to kristin's the groups there refused to let non- christian and gays join. at c-span we do cover, when available, same day audio from the supreme court. but this is a story from robert barnes who writes in "the washington times" this morning. more broadly he is writing about a hearing by justice breyer and justice thomas -- by the way, you can go to our video library and type in supreme court and you can see the hearing from last week. he writes about same day audio release. congress is pushing for televise proceedings. just a bit more from robert barnes's article. senator specter, a longtime advocate of cameras at the supreme court said last week televise proceedings would show what the public already thinks -- that