>> john macdonald, the man who brought independence to the canadian federation. but you hear about lots of other -- you hear about english kings. all my memories of childhood history are completely -- i would hear about the founder of jamaican independence. >> because of your mom. >> it was always up there. >> since we last talked, a man named barack obama became president of the united states. and he is like you. >> biracial. >> any impact? did you instinctively like him because he was like you? and what do you think of him now? >> i will confess to being a huge fan of his. i would hope not just because he and i are both biracial, but i was initially fascinated by him like many americans. he is exotic, he really is. and he has that princely air about him. he is really quite an extraordinary -- the man he reminded me of was pierre trudeau, the great canadian prime minister who was cosmopolitan and regal in that same kind of way, but a little bit aloof. but also charismatic. there is really a lot of similarities between them. and i was profoundly hopeful that his

>> sir john macdonald is the man who found -- who brought the -- canadian confederacy. hear about english kings. my memories of childhood history -- i would hear about the founder of jamaica independence. >> because of my mother. >> my father talk about henry viii to us. cáx>> since we last talked, bark obama became president of united states and he is like you in that he is by racial. any impact? did you instinctively liking because he was like you? >> [laughter] >> and what you think of him now? [laughter] >> i will confess to being a huge fan of his not just because he and i are both bi-racial but like many americans, i was initially fascinated by him. he is exotics. he really is. he has the kind of prince the air about him. he is -- the man he reminded me of was pierre trudeau who was a great canadian prime minister in the late 1960's and early 1970's who was, -- who was cosmopolitan in that same way and a little bit aloof. there are similarities between the two of them. like many people, i was profoundly hopeful that his election represented some kind of turning po