. >> and look at you have john mackey and founder of hotel foods and rachel rays and none of them wentcollege or finished. >> they are the most talent amazingly brilliant people in the world. but for regular folks like me, college is an answer. unemployment rate 8 percent. only four percent with people with college degree. you will earn one million more with a college degrees. >> and the point is, you don't have to go to college to be successful. >> you don't. you don't. and yet, we are in a society that somehow says that said a college degree means success. rick said earlier, you shouldn't go to college if that is not a good fit for you. we are in a society . challenge something he said. somehow, being a waiter with a college degree in history is a better outcome we think societally than a plumber. we need to put pride back in trade. >> okay, that is the last word from viktor yampt and coming upment informers might not be able to push down the prices in the pump. but they say they can pump with acorn, next. by a certain date. you always have homework, okay? i don't have homework today

. >> host: that includes john mackey? >> the founder of old foods. he writes about capitalism we have the moral high ground. we say they have the freedom to decide and we will not dictate that to them. >> host: what did stooges for liberty? >> 501c(3) run for students and by students read have groups allover the world with leaders in europe and africana and all over the united states just promoting the idea is of liberty on their campuses. it was founded 2008 by a group of young intern's in the dc area with the roundtable discussion for best practices promoting liberty on pratt -- campus. then they formed as an organization. >> host: how many campuses are you want? >> over 700 student groups and the network all over the world. >> host: your second compilation? >> guest: yes. in partnership with the atlas society. >> host: the ayn rand society? >> guest: the atlas

a mathematician will tell you how you can improve your chances, john stossel bob mackey and christieere separately. spread them out for the three ours they are on fox and friends. i am going back to work. go to break. ate. texas school district is filing a complaint after a group of rival team members taunting a largely hispanic team with a chant following their victory. we have the details. >> a>> they wanted at their games with other schools it wouldn't be a problem but it was targeted at a school that is predominantly hispanic. we appreciate the alamo heights basketball coach reacted quickly to stop the students from chanting. this topic generating a lot of discussion on our facebook page. henry guild der son saying was the usa right? what do people expect at sports events. everyone is just there to chat out friendly chats go team or similar. the real world doesn't work like that. kevin jones it was the team that was implying that. they were implying they were illegal immigrants and that seems racist to him. i think the chant was leaning more toward a taunt toward the hispanic tea

. >> and john mackey, whole foods. >> buys from 2,000 farms across the country. thi businesses, but bbs businesses that support these companies. >> and the top five? >> howard schultz. names like steve jobs. but, you know, we wanted to talk a little bit about fedex. and fred smith. >> let's talk about fred smith. >> he is kind of underknown, you know, the impact of federal express if you think about it. and amazon. they are powered by fedex. >> the guy is amazing. he really is. what fred smith has done at fedex, and just the demand for excellence from the top down. talk about his background. >> you know, he went to vietnam. he was in the marine corps, and he did a lot of logistics work trying to get troops and material all across that country. and he saw that this was something he was good at, and he saw there was something that was needed in the united states. and when you think about what federal express does, it's made thousands -- and again, millions of businesses, national and even international. so if you know of an eye glass store in seattle, the only way

john mackey, co-founder and c.e.o. of whole foods market, regulations go too far. there's too much bureaucracy and red tape. taxes on businesses are very high so we're not creating the enabling conditions that allow businesses to get started. again, on a bipartisan piece of legislation that is supported by the president of the united states, most of the provisions, which have been overwhelmingly supported, either on the house floor or on the financial services committee, regrettably, the gentleman from minnesota, his amendment takes a huge step backwards and makes it more difficult for these emerging growth companies to get started. now, i understand his particular concern on say-on-pay, but i would note that emerging growth companies still have to disclose their executive compensation arrangements to shareholders, their s.e.c. filings, the same way that s.e.c. requires for smaller reporting companies, and at what point do you think, how many votes do you want to compel shareholders to take, particularly on emerging growth companies? you know, we could require vote

grocery chain that's headquartered in austin, texas, where i live, they vote each year, i believe -- john mackey, the c.e.o., is very proud of this, they vote each year on their health care plan. what they have chosen, the employees choose year after year is a high-deductible insurance coverage for catastrophic losses, but then to cover the rest of their care it's a health savings plan that actually whole foods makes contributions into this health savings account which is owned by the worker and can then be used to pay for their health care for the regular sort of routine needs. and i remember sitting at the table with a number of the workers and talking about why they liked this alternative so much, and it's clear because it gave them the choices that we all would want for ourselves and our families in terms of the doctor we want and the kinds of treatment we want. and it provided incentives because people were spending not the government's money, some sort of a credit card that they would never see the bill for, but they remember spending their own money in their health savings account, thus r