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said as i see a said at the ends fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and john mandela -- nelson mandela, the guys like tom jones or bruce springsteen as another example, working class who makes common cause with those below him rather than turns them into the enemy. >> host: is the what's the matter with kansas idea you quoted in the book which is this argument. you are hating the argument. instead of hating the corporate powers that have shifted overseas and completely forgot about you and made no a men's you hate the people below you, you hate women, -- >> guest: and yes i have great respect for that argument as well because i think that there is a kind of distraction going on very often and it's a very seductive distraction. >> host: so one of your most original chapters is about the rampage shooter and what we get wrong. you sort of reconceived the rampage shooter is but can you talk about? >> guest: the rampage school shooter. i also have a chapter on the guys that go postal. >> host: that's different. i named a young school shooters like columbine. >> guest: i'm flattered
said as i see a said at the ends fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and john mandela -- nelson mandela, the guys like tom jones or bruce springsteen as another example, working class who makes common cause with those below him rather than turns them into the enemy. >> host: is the what's the matter with kansas idea you quoted in the book which is this argument. you are hating the argument. instead of hating the corporate powers that have shifted overseas and completely forgot...
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instead they found nelson mandela. >> john, the president spoke about his first political activities related to protests ainst apartheid and also recalling the day that nelson mandela was set free from robin island after 27 years as a prisoner. that was in 1990. what can you tell us about his time in prison? did reporters ask him about that? >> reporters did ask him about it, and his answers were as if he had spent some time at his grandmother's house. he simply accepted what had happened to him, felt it had strengthened his purpose of mission. the remarkable there was there was no bitterness or anger, which would have been entirely justified. there was none that. there was simply a sense that what had been done to him had been done to hundreds and thousands of other are south africans. many of thome had been killed. and his mission in life was to put that behind him and his country. the degree to which he succeeded in doing that is remarkable, though as my colleague said earlier, enormous problems continue to playing that country looking ahead. but when you look backward, it is absol
instead they found nelson mandela. >> john, the president spoke about his first political activities related to protests ainst apartheid and also recalling the day that nelson mandela was set free from robin island after 27 years as a prisoner. that was in 1990. what can you tell us about his time in prison? did reporters ask him about that? >> reporters did ask him about it, and his answers were as if he had spent some time at his grandmother's house. he simply accepted what had...
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you see the people there in a celebration, dancing for nelson mandela. john pointed out, of course, the movie "invictus" about the 1995 rugby world cup. it is that poem "invictus" by william earnest henley, that brought nelson mandela comfort for so many years and those famous lines from that poem, it matters not how straight the gate, how charged with punishment is scrawled, i am the master of my faith. i am the captain of my soul. that has been the hallmark of many of the people that we have talked to that knew nelson mandela so well, that have written about him, that despite 27 years of imprisonment, what was private bitterness and sometimes anger, he was the captain of his soul in terms of making sure that did not dominate dominate his life. instead, he became such a wonderful figure of reconciliation and why this is a global pilgrimage. >> when you look at the pictures and you see the people dancing, i see many toy-toy moves. nelson mandela would do that. you couldn't help but smile when you saw him doing that little chicken wing movement with his arms.
you see the people there in a celebration, dancing for nelson mandela. john pointed out, of course, the movie "invictus" about the 1995 rugby world cup. it is that poem "invictus" by william earnest henley, that brought nelson mandela comfort for so many years and those famous lines from that poem, it matters not how straight the gate, how charged with punishment is scrawled, i am the master of my faith. i am the captain of my soul. that has been the hallmark of many of the...
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great light has gone out, nelson mandela was a hero of our time, i have asked the flag to be thrown at half mass. we are so fortunate to have lived in his time. and speaker john boehner wrote, mandela led his country with a quiet moral authority that directed his own path from prisoner to president. and bill gaits wrote this, he tweeted every time melinda and i met nelson mandela we left more inspired than ever. his grace and courage changed the world, this is a sad day. russell sill monos tweeted this picture, that says at ankle rush and i with the esteemed leader nelson mandela. tony. terrific reaction and photos. continue to sort of mine that for us. >> we have picture when we come back, nelson mandela's influence on the world of sports. s welcome back, everyone to the continuing coverage. >> nelson mandela even extended into the rugby world cup, to essentially lot about that, how was a he able to do that? we have turned to yahoo sports analyst, who covered the international sports scene, and he joins us from los angeles. really the way he embraced the south african team, which is a team that was followed by the white community. it has 14 white players in
great light has gone out, nelson mandela was a hero of our time, i have asked the flag to be thrown at half mass. we are so fortunate to have lived in his time. and speaker john boehner wrote, mandela led his country with a quiet moral authority that directed his own path from prisoner to president. and bill gaits wrote this, he tweeted every time melinda and i met nelson mandela we left more inspired than ever. his grace and courage changed the world, this is a sad day. russell sill monos...
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mandela can do it, we can do it. we identify with the struggle. when i met him for the first time, he said to me, john lewis, i know all about you. i follow you. you inspired us. i said new york city, mr. mandela, you inspired us. >> we entered into a covenant, which i billed to society in which all, both black and white, will be able to walk tall without any fear in their hearts. assured a right of human dignity, a rainbow nation at peace with itself and the world. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. he was his nation's great emancipator. south african, the born-free generation who never lived under apartheid are celebrating the life of nelson mandela. prisoner, revolutionary, father of a rainbow nation. michelle kosinski is live outside mandela's residence. michelle, this has been an all night, all day celebration, joyous celebration of mandela's life. >> it's just been incredible. you go through the crowd and you see the mix of people, all walks of life. we've seen babies and very old, black and white, really all races and faiths. people are gathered along a fence here outside of mandel
mandela can do it, we can do it. we identify with the struggle. when i met him for the first time, he said to me, john lewis, i know all about you. i follow you. you inspired us. i said new york city, mr. mandela, you inspired us. >> we entered into a covenant, which i billed to society in which all, both black and white, will be able to walk tall without any fear in their hearts. assured a right of human dignity, a rainbow nation at peace with itself and the world. >> good day. i'm...
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this one from john hayes. mandela will be missed. and elaine stewart burgess weighed in as well.ous issues that need our attention. i'm proud to call you friend. so people there supporting him fred. >> so the president came out and made the other that everyone should lower the flag but it wasn't an order where there was a penalty behind it. he is not going to be reprimanded. it is more of a guideline than a mandate. lyinden johnson did it. and bill clinton did it for the prime minister of israel. but his sheriff doesn't think that it should be an honor for nelson mandela. >> over seas nuclear inspectors are in iran today. iran is denying it is trying to build a nuclear weapon. cnn has more. >> reporter: this one day inspection of this heavy water reactor is over. iran says it is not going to shut it down and not part of the secret weapons program and inspectors are welcome to see for themselves. iran is not after nuclear weapons. iran's invitation for the iaea to visit it's heavy water reactor is part of that campaign. this is the third visit to the reaction te reaction. it could
this one from john hayes. mandela will be missed. and elaine stewart burgess weighed in as well.ous issues that need our attention. i'm proud to call you friend. so people there supporting him fred. >> so the president came out and made the other that everyone should lower the flag but it wasn't an order where there was a penalty behind it. he is not going to be reprimanded. it is more of a guideline than a mandate. lyinden johnson did it. and bill clinton did it for the prime minister of...
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. >> one american who like mandela knows the high price of equality, congressman john lewis. >> if nelsonfe premiered in london. those who attended didn't know mandela had died until after. >> the anti-apartheid protests of the 80s captivated new audiences. >> the ongoing violence there in township townships, he took the story of one man to help america better understand the struggle of one nation. mandela reminded the world reconciliation was more powerful than revenge. forgiveness is a gift to be given. >> i said didn't you hate the people when they let you go? he said briefly i did. but i said to myself they have had you 27 years. if you hate them when you get through that door they will still have you. >> if you can proceed through life with just a portion of nelson mandela's humility, you will be a huge success. >> the audacity of mandela's rise also inspired a young politician from illinois. barack obama met nelson mandela when he was just a junior senator in 5. and years later had the chance to tell her. >> you cannot imagine how important your legacy is to who i am, to who my husb
. >> one american who like mandela knows the high price of equality, congressman john lewis. >> if nelsonfe premiered in london. those who attended didn't know mandela had died until after. >> the anti-apartheid protests of the 80s captivated new audiences. >> the ongoing violence there in township townships, he took the story of one man to help america better understand the struggle of one nation. mandela reminded the world reconciliation was more powerful than revenge....
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mandela's moral weight moving very heavily over this event and the current government. >> john, you point out his moral weight. you see the people there in a celebration, dancing for nelson, i see many toy-toy moves. nelson mandela would do that. you couldn't help but smile when you saw him doing that little chicken wing movement with his arms. many times in africa, people laugh and sing and dance through their sadness and their sorrow. these are people celebrating nelson mandela's life. if you didn't know this was a funeral, he would not know this was a funeral. they are in a stadium. a lot of cheering. people are very happy on this particular day to give what they call the old man a long good-bye. we are in the process of a ten-day funeral service for nelson mandela. >> you always hope at a time like this, that this will somehow cause a recognition of the possibilities of south africa that nelson mandela dreamed of. >> people will tell you there is still work to do in south africa. everyone knows there is still work to do. we will see it remains to be seen what will happen after the dea
mandela's moral weight moving very heavily over this event and the current government. >> john, you point out his moral weight. you see the people there in a celebration, dancing for nelson, i see many toy-toy moves. nelson mandela would do that. you couldn't help but smile when you saw him doing that little chicken wing movement with his arms. many times in africa, people laugh and sing and dance through their sadness and their sorrow. these are people celebrating nelson mandela's life....
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. >>> here in the bay area san francisco's glide memorial church remembered mandela at its services today. john raymond shows us this is a joyous celebration of all that mandela was and that he accomplished. >> reporter: when san francisco's glide memorial church remembered nelson mandela at morning services, the only thing missing was sadness. e the outrage of his imprisonment become an irresistible forcr peaceful change in the tradn of ghandi and dr martin lutr king, jr. "being in prison for 27 yea, you hear me? twenty seven y! and then, walking out of th prison as a new person, completely." / mandela was already in his's on, but his ♪ one love let's get together now ♪ >> reporter: the mood was joyful as the children's choir honored the passing of the man called the father of a nation. >> it's bigger than that. i mean nelson mandela touched all of our lives regardless of where we were in the world. >> reporter: pastor cecil williams met mandela twice, the first time at his celebrated appearance in oakland in 1990. williams says mandela's power came from his ability to rise above the outrage o
. >>> here in the bay area san francisco's glide memorial church remembered mandela at its services today. john raymond shows us this is a joyous celebration of all that mandela was and that he accomplished. >> reporter: when san francisco's glide memorial church remembered nelson mandela at morning services, the only thing missing was sadness. e the outrage of his imprisonment become an irresistible forcr peaceful change in the tradn of ghandi and dr martin lutr king, jr....
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history has had many great icons who fought tirelessly for the cause of dreams they believe john nelson mandela will go down as one of the greatest i was mandela so important millions of americans who adored him and how will history remember. i've got a quote for you. that's pretty tough. they were it's a story. let's give this guy like you would smear about john stead of working for the people who she's the beach. preacher ribozymes days you know. the dead rather. were. the poor. it was. very hard to take. on a life that had sex with that big hair. plenty of. leg. plenty of. it's true news the minimum wage has in the race in two thousand and nine when it was lifted from six fifty five an hour to its current about seven twenty five an hour for the average full time worker seven twenty five an hour translates into about fifteen grand a year barely enough to survive and that's why president obama has thrown his support behind a congressional proposal to raise the minimum wage to ten dollars and ten cents an hour but some people want to go even further at a fast food workers and hundreds of cities
history has had many great icons who fought tirelessly for the cause of dreams they believe john nelson mandela will go down as one of the greatest i was mandela so important millions of americans who adored him and how will history remember. i've got a quote for you. that's pretty tough. they were it's a story. let's give this guy like you would smear about john stead of working for the people who she's the beach. preacher ribozymes days you know. the dead rather. were. the poor. it was. very...
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. >> reporter: one american who like mandela knows the high price of equality, congressman john lewis the movie about mandela's life "long walk to freedom" premiered in london. those who attended didn't know mandela had died until after. >> extremely sad and tragic news. >> reporter: the anti-apartheid protests of the '80s captivated a new generation on college campuses and communities. ♪ >> reporter: amidst the demonstrations demanding divestment in south africa here, the ongoing violence there in townships like soweta, it took the story of one man who help america better understand the struggle of one nation. mandela reminded the world reconciliation was more powerful than revenge. forgiveness is a gift to be given. >> i said didn't you hate the people when they let you go? he said, briefly i did. but when i was walking out of my compound for the last time i said to myself, they've had you 27 years. if you hate them when you get through that door, they will still have you. >> if you can proceed through life with just a portion of nelson mandela's humility, you will be a huge success
. >> reporter: one american who like mandela knows the high price of equality, congressman john lewis the movie about mandela's life "long walk to freedom" premiered in london. those who attended didn't know mandela had died until after. >> extremely sad and tragic news. >> reporter: the anti-apartheid protests of the '80s captivated a new generation on college campuses and communities. ♪ >> reporter: amidst the demonstrations demanding divestment in south...
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. ♪ lou: the world tonight morning the death of anti-apartheid i john nelson mandela.th african spent 27 years in pson. he advocated armed resistance to apareid in south america before becoming the country's first black president. in recent years the nobeleace prize winner and a number of health issues, including repeated hospitalizations with a chronic lung infection. a somber, eloquent president a lot talked about his death at the white house. >>e achieved more than could be expected of any man. today he has gone home. we have lost one of the most influential, courageous, and profoundly good hum beings that any of us will know on this earth. no longer bongs to us. he belongs to the ages. lou: nson mandela, 95 years old. vice president biden connecting shuttle diplomacy from tokyo to beijing to tonight seoul, south korea. our first guest tonight is pressing the obama administration to reassess their guidance that u.s. civilian air carriers comply with china as illegitimate imposition of an air defense identification zone over the east china sea. he says the whiteouse
. ♪ lou: the world tonight morning the death of anti-apartheid i john nelson mandela.th african spent 27 years in pson. he advocated armed resistance to apareid in south america before becoming the country's first black president. in recent years the nobeleace prize winner and a number of health issues, including repeated hospitalizations with a chronic lung infection. a somber, eloquent president a lot talked about his death at the white house. >>e achieved more than could be expected...
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mandela. he was a symbol of freedom and the strength of the human spirit in south africa and beyond. johniana? >> karen, mandela clear hero to president obama. will he be traveling to south africa for the memorial? >> no trip has been announced yet by the white house but it seems likely the president and possibly first lady would go over for the services when they happen over the next week or two. the president was so candid yesterday speaking about the influence that nelson mandela had in his life. he said he could not imagine living his life without the example that nelson mandela set. >> tell us more about president obama's last trip to south africa and when he first met mandela has a senator. >> reporter: president obama was in south africa in june. nelson mandela was very sick at that point. the white house said out of respect for him and his family they were not going to have the obamas a go and meet him. instead he took his wife and daughters to nominee's cell on robben island. he said it was a privilege and honor to be there. the first and only time they met is right after preside
mandela. he was a symbol of freedom and the strength of the human spirit in south africa and beyond. johniana? >> karen, mandela clear hero to president obama. will he be traveling to south africa for the memorial? >> no trip has been announced yet by the white house but it seems likely the president and possibly first lady would go over for the services when they happen over the next week or two. the president was so candid yesterday speaking about the influence that nelson mandela...
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. >> remembering the life and legacy of nelson mandela. i'm john siegenthaler. lcome to al jazeera america. news came this afternoon that nelson mandela passed away in his home at the age of 95. south african president jacob zuma made the announcement. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> nelson mandela had been ill for some time. he was in a hospital fighting pneumonia and lung problems. his family described him as struggling, but teaching life lessons from his death bed. he was married three times, fathered three children, 17 grandchildren. he made history when he became the first democratically elected president in 1994, ending years of white rules under apartheid, doing it after spending 28 years in prison. mike hanna has more. >> the life of rolihlahla dalibhunga was one lived for others. not for him the luxury of privacy, the ability of celebrating a moment away from the public eye. even when he arrived to bury his granddaughter killed in a car dent a camera was there. a smile as he greets friends, sadness set
. >> remembering the life and legacy of nelson mandela. i'm john siegenthaler. lcome to al jazeera america. news came this afternoon that nelson mandela passed away in his home at the age of 95. south african president jacob zuma made the announcement. >> nelson mandela, the founding president of our democratic nation has departed. >> nelson mandela had been ill for some time. he was in a hospital fighting pneumonia and lung problems. his family described him as struggling,...
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. >> pelley: mandela biographer john carlin told us this evening it tells you all you need to know that mandela will be mourned equally in south africa by blacks and whites alike. now to another important story this evening. today an american teacher was gunned down in benghazi, libya, the city where the u.s. ambassador was killed lastier by islamic mill fants. here's bob orr. >> reporter: as he and his wife anita left texas for libya ronnie smith made this video for his austin church. he talked about his need to spread a spiritual message. smith worried about adapting to a foreign culture but said faith would guide him. >> if there is any single person in the entire universe that you can take a chance on, it's god. >> reporter: smith took a job teaching chemistry at the international school in benghazi. this morning as he was jogging along this street, smith was shot and killed by gunmen riding in a black jeep. no one has claimed responsibility. but suspicions are focused on islamic militants. since u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed in benghazi 15 mont
. >> pelley: mandela biographer john carlin told us this evening it tells you all you need to know that mandela will be mourned equally in south africa by blacks and whites alike. now to another important story this evening. today an american teacher was gunned down in benghazi, libya, the city where the u.s. ambassador was killed lastier by islamic mill fants. here's bob orr. >> reporter: as he and his wife anita left texas for libya ronnie smith made this video for his austin...
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the man fake sign taking sign language at the memorial of former south african leader nelson mandela john jay was accused of signing in jibberish during the service afterwards he gave a number of peculiar stories as to why he couldn't affectively do the job for one he told news outlets that he had been suffering from schizophrenia had been hearing violent voices in his head and was hallucinating visions of angels flying into the stadium interesting when asked by the associated press how often he had become violent in the past he said a lot but declined to provide details well interestingly we now know a little bit more about his violent past according to the south african news website and ca dot com johns he has had a number of run ins with the law it says john who is being treated for schizophrenia has also faced rape one thousand nine hundred four theft in one thousand nine hundred five housebreaking one thousand nine hundred seven malicious damage to property one nine hundred ninety eight murder attempted murder and kidnapping charges two thousand and three this raises a whole lot of q
the man fake sign taking sign language at the memorial of former south african leader nelson mandela john jay was accused of signing in jibberish during the service afterwards he gave a number of peculiar stories as to why he couldn't affectively do the job for one he told news outlets that he had been suffering from schizophrenia had been hearing violent voices in his head and was hallucinating visions of angels flying into the stadium interesting when asked by the associated press how often...
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mandela for his courage and leadership. the process leading up to a burial is extensive, complicated. john terrett explains what will happen during the next couple of days, several days as the world says goodbye to nelson mandela. >> the south african government put in place a 10-day timeline between nelson mandela's death and burial. day one was thursday and the announcement by jacob zuma. on to friday, day two, books of condolence will be placed so people can pay their reports and record memories of the man they knew as madiba. on saturday, day three, formal invitations will be issued to world leaders. most will want to attend if they can't. sunday, day four, and the media begins a long process for those wishing to cover nelson mandela's final days. nelson mandela's coffin will be moved so the sowetta distribute. the stadium has a capacity for 95,000. on tuesday, nelson mandela's body will be moved to the union building. this is the seat of the south african government and the rehearsals will begin at the state mem yore jal. on wednesday and just, day seven and eight. the state memorial
mandela for his courage and leadership. the process leading up to a burial is extensive, complicated. john terrett explains what will happen during the next couple of days, several days as the world says goodbye to nelson mandela. >> the south african government put in place a 10-day timeline between nelson mandela's death and burial. day one was thursday and the announcement by jacob zuma. on to friday, day two, books of condolence will be placed so people can pay their reports and...
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one line, infinite possibilities. >>> reaction to nelson mandela's death is pouring in from leaders around the world. cnn's joe johns mandela both here in washington as well as in south africa. so joe, what are the folks out there, celebrities and others saying? >> reporter: just a real outpouring throughout the evening, wolf. reactions coming in from all over the world have been vo luminous to say the least. vice president biden in a statement saying in the hands of nelson mandela hope and history rhymed. this is a better world because nelson mandela was in it. this evening we heard from first lady michelle obama who said on twitter "we will forever draw strength and inspiration from nelson mandela's extraordinary example of moral courage and kindness and humility." former secretary of state hillary clinton who also traveled to south africa as first lady in the 90s said "nelson mandela was a champion for justice and human dignity with unmatched grace. i'll remember him as madiba, truly an unconquerable soul." >> people all over the world are remembering him with wonderful wonderful thoughts. joe thanks very much. b
one line, infinite possibilities. >>> reaction to nelson mandela's death is pouring in from leaders around the world. cnn's joe johns mandela both here in washington as well as in south africa. so joe, what are the folks out there, celebrities and others saying? >> reporter: just a real outpouring throughout the evening, wolf. reactions coming in from all over the world have been vo luminous to say the least. vice president biden in a statement saying in the hands of nelson...
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mandela. we have seen tears, john, outward signs of the grief that people feel. i think it was a sign that this was a man loved byall. all walks of life. heads of government, heads of state. leaders of pop culture and snow biz all here to pay their respects. john, i really wanto mark one moment that really stood out to me. and that was seeing nelson mandela's widow grash sha mi michelle. and she was just sobbing. you could see she lost her partner. he was ill. he was old. people had been preparing themselves for this. but the reality of seeing his remains really brings it home to them. they're the father of this democracy and the pillar of the mandela family has gone. john. >> it's such a public event this week, it's nice that people are having private moments to say good-bye. isha sesay in pretoria, thanks. appreciate that. >>> ten minutes after the hour. coming up, al qaeda moves into syria. the terror group making a claim in the country's civil war as journalists and human rights activists are missing. we'r live with the latest developments. >>> and an an amaz
mandela. we have seen tears, john, outward signs of the grief that people feel. i think it was a sign that this was a man loved byall. all walks of life. heads of government, heads of state. leaders of pop culture and snow biz all here to pay their respects. john, i really wanto mark one moment that really stood out to me. and that was seeing nelson mandela's widow grash sha mi michelle. and she was just sobbing. you could see she lost her partner. he was ill. he was old. people had been...
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mandela. he was a symbol of freedom and the strength of the human spirit in south africa and beyond. john years he was incarcerated, he organized protests and got his law degree and even though he was only allowed one visitor a year and write or receive one letter every six months. so he had little contact with his own family. >> amazing. he won over everybody in that 30 years of incarceration, winning over prison guards, walking out and renouncing fierce of hatred. he said it only clouds the mind. this is a man as soon as he walked out embraced anyone who oppressed him and what a remarkable thing. he was raised as a son of a tribal leader. his nickname was troublemaker. isn't that amazing? little did they know? he certainly was. >> yes. >>> oprah winfrey's also weighing in on mandela's passing. she says it was one of her greatest honors to be invited to his home. and called him humble, graceful and heroic. she called him a gift to us all, and she hosted mandela on her show 13 years ago. >> i had said that you are one of the most -- the most humble person i ever met. i will tell you, when
mandela. he was a symbol of freedom and the strength of the human spirit in south africa and beyond. john years he was incarcerated, he organized protests and got his law degree and even though he was only allowed one visitor a year and write or receive one letter every six months. so he had little contact with his own family. >> amazing. he won over everybody in that 30 years of incarceration, winning over prison guards, walking out and renouncing fierce of hatred. he said it only clouds...
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praised him as a giant for justice and a hero of our time crowds took to the streets in john his birth to grieve mandela's death and celebrate his legacy announcing the news the country's president jacob zuma said his nation has lost its greatest son after memorial service expected to draw tens of thousands of mourners when dels body will be flown to his home village and you'll be interred on his family's day according to his wishes are his policy or looks at the legacy of the iconic leader. he's the man who pulled a troubled and divided land back from the brink of civil war the man who after twenty seven tough years behind bars walks free from prison in his heart was not to avenge or i think that he's greatest legacy to this country is reconciliation but in the last three decades the world tirelessly punished the image of nelson mandela and image recognized around the world only coca-cola is based on known but a man who struggle for racial equality again south africa's ruling white minority had a dark side the world has conveniently forgotten about nelson mandela the leader of the no struggle. i read a c
praised him as a giant for justice and a hero of our time crowds took to the streets in john his birth to grieve mandela's death and celebrate his legacy announcing the news the country's president jacob zuma said his nation has lost its greatest son after memorial service expected to draw tens of thousands of mourners when dels body will be flown to his home village and you'll be interred on his family's day according to his wishes are his policy or looks at the legacy of the iconic leader....
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brown put mandela in the same group as john f. edy, robert kennedy, and he called nelson mandela the real leader. >>> barbara rogers visited south africa in 1993 and met with nelson mandela. grace cathedral is working on services to honor nelson mandela. >>> and we are looking back at mandela's life on our website. kpix.com. you will find a photo gallery and memorable quotes from the former leader. >>> we have breaking news. looks like waterfall, but it is water gushing from a broken line in martinez. the line snapped about an hour ago. it sent a lot of water. that break has since been shut off, but it has created a real mess going into yards, garages, crews believe the cold weather may have been a factor. >>> freezing or real close to it, that is what much of the bay area can expect overnight again. check out these people trying to stay warm. holding a puppy if you are lucky enough to have one. paul deanno is here now with how low the temperatures will go. paul? >> and those puppies always keep you warm. mid 30s outside already, t
brown put mandela in the same group as john f. edy, robert kennedy, and he called nelson mandela the real leader. >>> barbara rogers visited south africa in 1993 and met with nelson mandela. grace cathedral is working on services to honor nelson mandela. >>> and we are looking back at mandela's life on our website. kpix.com. you will find a photo gallery and memorable quotes from the former leader. >>> we have breaking news. looks like waterfall, but it is water...
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awaiting president obama to make a speech on the passing of former south african president, nelson mandela. johnwhat should we expect here? >> melissa, i think you can expect the president to speak with deep emotion about the passing of this leader and what it has meant to him and he recently took his daughters to africa and i believe they went to robben island to see the cell where nelson mandela was held. that was a moving moment for this and of course nelson mandela is watched throughout his lifetime as the struggle against apartheid reached fruition. when he was still in law school, he had been at robben island, president of south africa. all said they expect that the president will attend nelson mandela's funeral. >> global history for that matter of nelson mandela being the first black president of south africa and barack obama first black president of the united states. >> there is no question about that. the fact that president obama's father was from kenya, he feels a bond to the continent of africa as well. south africa is the most important economy. remembering, you know, the colonial
awaiting president obama to make a speech on the passing of former south african president, nelson mandela. johnwhat should we expect here? >> melissa, i think you can expect the president to speak with deep emotion about the passing of this leader and what it has meant to him and he recently took his daughters to africa and i believe they went to robben island to see the cell where nelson mandela was held. that was a moving moment for this and of course nelson mandela is watched...
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then 10 years ago, at the birth of my son john, i picked up the telephone and there was nelson mandela the phone -- he, too, had lost a child in infancy, and from that time on, on his birthday, the day before my second son's, and on graÇa's birthday, the day of john's, we exchanged telephone calls on the days of these birthdays and presents, letters, and cards, the last only this october. raising money for children's causes was the purpose of nelson mandela's 90th birthday party in london, when president clinton and i were proud to pay tribute to him, before an auction where he gave the original copy of his famous "letter to a child." first, oprah winfrey bid for it, then elton john. both of them surpassed a £1 million. oprah winfrey then went beyond that million. she was then told that she would have to pay in pounds and not dollars. [laughter] nelson mandela and i joked that it was time for another £1 million and that he should write another letter and sell it to elton john. nelson mandela's last public event was in hyde park, in london. again, it was to raise funds for children. sit
then 10 years ago, at the birth of my son john, i picked up the telephone and there was nelson mandela the phone -- he, too, had lost a child in infancy, and from that time on, on his birthday, the day before my second son's, and on graÇa's birthday, the day of john's, we exchanged telephone calls on the days of these birthdays and presents, letters, and cards, the last only this october. raising money for children's causes was the purpose of nelson mandela's 90th birthday party in london,...
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john, you were there in almost 20 years ago when nelson mandela was inaugurated. tell us what it was like. >> it remains the most powerful moment i have ever seen. before then, the vice president al gore mentioned the delegation. fidel castro was walking out of the hall, ga davi, many of the african leaders, some quite controversial to the leadership of the united states, were walking out, and then president-elect mandela, just moments he was having brief meetings. after he met with the vice president, there were a few reporters, and he shuffled over and very quietly and shook our hands and asked how we were doing. on this days when, that's who he was, this quiet dignity and grace. i want to show this. the vips were given this. and some of us hung around. >> you were working for the associated press. >> at the time. this is the new stamp they issued that day, commemorating the new president, but there was a new national anthem, a new flag, an there's a commemorative stamp. these are the parliament buildings, i believe they're called the union buildings, and in thi
john, you were there in almost 20 years ago when nelson mandela was inaugurated. tell us what it was like. >> it remains the most powerful moment i have ever seen. before then, the vice president al gore mentioned the delegation. fidel castro was walking out of the hall, ga davi, many of the african leaders, some quite controversial to the leadership of the united states, were walking out, and then president-elect mandela, just moments he was having brief meetings. after he met with the...
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mandela. not since john paul, ii departed have we seen energy like this around the world. the catholic church. for nelson mandela a politician and to get this attention, people streaming in and flooding to try to get to south africa is unheard of. now the big moment will be the memorial tomorrow when they are going to pack the soccer stadium here that was big enough for the world cup but 90,000 seats not even close for all of the people who want to come. i think the message is clear you're hearing. nelson mandela was a man but he was also much more than that here and abroad. >> i probably had a chance to talk to some of the people. you talked about the rainbow nation. it cut across black and white and cut across generations. the impact i'm sure you're getting a real sense of it being among the south african people? >> and it's the context. remember, apartheid literally meant apart neighborhoods. they were segregated, white, black, southern, indian, categories. to see the reverse of this, this beautiful mixing going on here and everybody has the same message. there is loss,
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tonight, outside the apollo theater, marque honored nelson mandela, that's where jordan martin is standing by, what are you hearing tonight? >> first john, it is pretty evidence you can see the marque you just mentioned it says in memory ol' nelson mandela, he changed our world. a lot of people here in hair held, and in new york in general remember when he came here, actually the marque was a big part of it. it said welcome home mr. and mrs. mandela. there were a huge crowds here, more than 100,000 people, there was a huge parade. a lot of people we spoke to today found out about his death as they were leaving work, and seeing this marque. and for people here, his sit sit brought a bit of hope. a lot of people remember him riding by is pointing at the apollo theater. he just mentioned how his visit game hope. people just appreciated him making the stop, when he could have stop sod many other places. so certainly sadness, and a lot of fond memories coming from the people that were here those years ago. so jonathan -- what else is expected -- are there any events expected to happen at the apollo tonight? >> well, not tonight, like i said
tonight, outside the apollo theater, marque honored nelson mandela, that's where jordan martin is standing by, what are you hearing tonight? >> first john, it is pretty evidence you can see the marque you just mentioned it says in memory ol' nelson mandela, he changed our world. a lot of people here in hair held, and in new york in general remember when he came here, actually the marque was a big part of it. it said welcome home mr. and mrs. mandela. there were a huge crowds here, more...
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mandela. this morning the world remembering that man, mourning the loss of a legend. south africa's former president hailed for his courage and decency and message of equality. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. it is 5:00 in the east. >>> nelson mandela whose unbreakable will and unsurpassed courage brought an end to an era of white domination in south africa. he is dead this morning at the age of 95. mandela was such a global icon with larger than life legend who went from a prison cell to the presidency and he did it with such unmashed grace. i want to bring in robin curnow live from johannesburg. set the scene for us today, robin. >> the announcement was made just before midnight on thursday. so many south africans didn't really know that their icon had passed on. it was only when they woke up this morning that they perhaps looked at the newspapers or heard on the radio. much of this country is quite rule countryside and they would have seen headlines like this. this one means go well, madiba. good-bye. i think many people in this country would have said, thank god he is at rest and at peace because he has had such a year of in and out of hospital, of bein
mandela. this morning the world remembering that man, mourning the loss of a legend. south africa's former president hailed for his courage and decency and message of equality. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. it is 5:00 in the east. >>> nelson mandela whose unbreakable will and unsurpassed courage brought an end to an era of white domination in south africa. he is dead this morning at the age of 95. mandela was such a global icon with...
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mandela. how does his own life. dr john reid bringing you don't feel the need to know that chinese vice president shall instead of reading barack obama the former us presidents read robin's house for the cuban president of. i mean what does this mean for it goes far beyond the sentiment of the individual mostly this means something for south africa as a as a country as a people. right and justice as well as to what it means beyond the bus and of itself i'm such a celebration serve many different cities the more rose to more or less serious. he's standing up to some extent it's not me well the folks on the montana state. and the same time. some kind of did not teach and gizmos. it follows conclude that talk about eighty six on the road use the media. some of the group. topics to talk about. a sickly. most importantly the beach to the states on the world. this is the most important job but someone's got to be put in more than ninety thousand in the stadium itself on medieval tens of thousands of millions in the one to get ins
mandela. how does his own life. dr john reid bringing you don't feel the need to know that chinese vice president shall instead of reading barack obama the former us presidents read robin's house for the cuban president of. i mean what does this mean for it goes far beyond the sentiment of the individual mostly this means something for south africa as a as a country as a people. right and justice as well as to what it means beyond the bus and of itself i'm such a celebration serve many...
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john. >> the memorial service for nelson mandela making news for a lot of reasons other than honoring the icon's legacy. plus, a candid photo of the president that's made its way all over the world. while the prewas flying back here, congress was making a deal. we'll break down details on an actual budget agreed upon in our nation's capital. and as a consumer, are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? if so, you're not alone. how many of us have experienced customer rage? this is "way too early"! i have the volume but not actual anger. i can't fake anger. that was just loud. brian shakt man, in the show, we have interesting followups on the kenyan mall shooting courtesy of the new york city police department. we want to begin in washington, d.c. a budget deal has been reached between the senate and the house negotiators. so the called cease-fire on capitol hill buys lawmakers time to address the nation's larger fiscal issues such as the tax code, health care and social security. paul ryan and patty murray brokered the deal which raises military and dmen spending through 2015 r
john. >> the memorial service for nelson mandela making news for a lot of reasons other than honoring the icon's legacy. plus, a candid photo of the president that's made its way all over the world. while the prewas flying back here, congress was making a deal. we'll break down details on an actual budget agreed upon in our nation's capital. and as a consumer, are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? if so, you're not alone. how many of us have experienced customer rage? this...
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mandela's life. it seems fitting to have his memorial there. >> absolutely, john. there could not be a more fitting venue for this memorial service for nelson mandela. this is the site of nelson mandela's last public appearance. the closing stages of the 2010 world cup. that's when we saw him along with his wife on the back of a golf cart, if you will, wrapped up against the wall. scenes that touched the heart of many as they saw him. he looked frail. he was obviously advanced in his years. that was the last time we saw him in public in 2010. if you were to go back to time, this place behind me was also the scene of nelson mandela's first public speech. well, not first. the speech in the days after he was released. two days after he was released in february 1990. he addressed the crowds here in this stadium. so people really attach this venue with nelson mandela. he's inextricably bound with this venue behind me and it's fitting they are paying their tributes to him here today, john. >> it's the largest stadium in the african continent, but i have a feeling today it
mandela's life. it seems fitting to have his memorial there. >> absolutely, john. there could not be a more fitting venue for this memorial service for nelson mandela. this is the site of nelson mandela's last public appearance. the closing stages of the 2010 world cup. that's when we saw him along with his wife on the back of a golf cart, if you will, wrapped up against the wall. scenes that touched the heart of many as they saw him. he looked frail. he was obviously advanced in his...
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john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let us know what you think about mandela. tweet us using #ac360. coming up next my of my exclusive conversation with bono. (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. (aaron) purrrfect. (vo) meee-ow, business pro. meee-ow. go national. go like a pro. so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. because what's preciou
john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we...
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mandela set an example by visiting new zealand, forgiving the country that sent its rugby team to play south africa during the apartheid years. tonight the prime minister of new zealand, john key wrote, mr. mandela was a force for change not only in south africa, but around the world. reacting tonight, muhammad ali wrote, his was a spirit born free. destined to soar above the rainbows. today his spirit is soaring through the heavens. he is now forever free. new york's cardinal dolan wrote, nelson mandela was a hero to the world. his bravery in defending human rights against the great evil of apartheid made him a symbol of courage and dignity as well as an inspiration to people everywhere. and mandela's great friend, archbishop foundation wrote in his name his fearless generosity and leadership were in the service of transcending our differences by seeking our oneness as human beings. and here's the "new york" magazine cover, a tribute to the young mandela, young freedom fighter. tonight, bono, mandela's great supporter and friend wrote, in the end, nelson mandela showed us how to love rather than hate, not because he never surrendered to rage or violence but because he lea
mandela set an example by visiting new zealand, forgiving the country that sent its rugby team to play south africa during the apartheid years. tonight the prime minister of new zealand, john key wrote, mr. mandela was a force for change not only in south africa, but around the world. reacting tonight, muhammad ali wrote, his was a spirit born free. destined to soar above the rainbows. today his spirit is soaring through the heavens. he is now forever free. new york's cardinal dolan wrote,...
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john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we hope you'll join us for that. let us know what you think about mandela. tweet us using #ac360. coming up next my of my exclusive conversation with bono. [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box. new fast acting advil. so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped wi
john paul ii. within four to six hours of nelson mandela passing away a support plane en route to south africa and secret service very quickly casing out the areas where president obama would be. that said, anderson, they say it is a monumental undertaking because some of the security issues are sort of outsourced to the host country and that could be very nerve racking for secret service. >> well, we'll be there to cover it all starting at 3:30 a.m. eastern time in the united states. we...
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because of that, many people are wondering whether the anc leaders today are truly fulfilling mandela's dreams, john. >> nick schifrin in johanesbur g. nick, thank you. >>> it has been a rough couple of days for many people as two phases of the storm have moved through the eastern part of the united states. now, we are finally, seeing the end of t you can sear here on the satellite image, most of the snow, most of the rain is usual ing out here towards the atla a atlant atlantic. it took about nine hours to go through. a quick-moving storm. if it would have gone slower, we would have had more snow accumulation across the area. we did see in some locations up to about four inches here in central park, in new york, it was about an inch and a half, there was a lot of delays at the airports earlier. the only problems we are having right now is teterboro airport in new york as well as logan airport. they are seeing about an hour delay. teterboro is seeing more than that. we think that will will improve. temperatures are still hovering around freeze can. the roads have been well taken care of. we don't ex
because of that, many people are wondering whether the anc leaders today are truly fulfilling mandela's dreams, john. >> nick schifrin in johanesbur g. nick, thank you. >>> it has been a rough couple of days for many people as two phases of the storm have moved through the eastern part of the united states. now, we are finally, seeing the end of t you can sear here on the satellite image, most of the snow, most of the rain is usual ing out here towards the atla a atlant atlantic....
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now, with the recent passing of nelson mandela came an outpouring of praise from political leaders, some from the expected qualiter. secretary of state john kerry and british prime minister david cameron playing tribute. >> hillary clinton called mandela a champion for justice. harry reid writes in a way man dell yafs both the george washington and abraham lincoln of his country. >> jon: we have to make him into a white guy somehow? is that it? how would people understand the references? he's like george george except not at all. the former south african president got props from less expected figures. >> newt gingrich called mandela one of greatest leaders of the lifetime. >> jon: ted cruz released a heart felt statement would be news whether mandela died or in the. [ laughter ] it's not news that people are rushing to praise man dwreal but what is news is the reaction to that praise. >> you wrote a facebook page and put out a statement praising nelson man dwreal a man you supported early on and then were surprised by some of the reaction you got. this clench fist murdering guerrilla warrior does not deserve respect. >> i was surprised by
now, with the recent passing of nelson mandela came an outpouring of praise from political leaders, some from the expected qualiter. secretary of state john kerry and british prime minister david cameron playing tribute. >> hillary clinton called mandela a champion for justice. harry reid writes in a way man dell yafs both the george washington and abraham lincoln of his country. >> jon: we have to make him into a white guy somehow? is that it? how would people understand the...
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remarks indicating that mandela will have a state funeral saying to be mindful of his wishes and the wishes of his family as we gather wherever we are in the country and in the world. johnnnie mandela. the story of their lives and how they responded to his period of incarceration is sort of a story of how mandela triumphed. winnie mandela turned to violence and embraced that. nelson mandela never went there and he didn't go there after he ascended to the presidency. he shared the nobel peace job with president clark, the white south africa president who made the decision to free him. at the time when black south africans were so aggrieved for so long and denied so much, the president had a decision to make about how much redistribution of land and income he was going to engage in and he took a very moderate tone to that. emphasized reconciliation. when he became the president, some of the people who had been his jailers later in prison. this is somebody who exemplified the idea of rising above bitter conflict and showing the world how to bring people together and you're -- an indication of that is going to be the way in which you see white south africans grieve for nels
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john terrett with us. >>> now the name nelson mandela has beency must.we go to today's lesson plan. >> reporter: half a world away nelson mandela's memorial service was just wrapping up as classes were getting under way at margaret smith's elementary school in denver. this morning they're starting aer an eight-week segment. >> mandela may be new to these children but after a little history and group discussion they had mandela all figured out. >> what he did was awesome. >> reporter: margaret smith school is a melting pot. most students are black or latino. most of these student versus an undocumented parent, and most qualify for reduced lunches. >> it may be being homeless and living in a homeless shelter down the road. >> reporter: the children are quick to connect mandela to american civil rights heroes. >> i learned that he was like martin luther king. >> bringing their personal experiences to the classroom. >> one time i walked in a store and i see people treated me differently because i'm mexican. they are aware and they see it. >> it's pretty cool
john terrett with us. >>> now the name nelson mandela has beency must.we go to today's lesson plan. >> reporter: half a world away nelson mandela's memorial service was just wrapping up as classes were getting under way at margaret smith's elementary school in denver. this morning they're starting aer an eight-week segment. >> mandela may be new to these children but after a little history and group discussion they had mandela all figured out. >> what he did was...
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mandela on tuesday. >>> bay area churchgoers also honored the former south african president today. john shows us the celebration of his life and legacy at san francisco's glide memorial church. >> reporter: when san francisco's glide memorial church remembered nelson mandela at their services, the only thing missing was sadness. the mood was joyful as the children's choir honored the passing of the man who is being called the father of the nation. >> it's bigger than that. nelson mandela touched all of our lives regardless of where we were in the world. >> reporter: pastor sisal williams met him twice. he said mandela's power came from his ability to rise above the outrage of his imprisonment to become an irresistible force in the position of change. >> being in prison for 27 years, you hear me? 27 years. and then walking out of that prison as a new person completely. there's no doubt about it. he liberated the world in many ways. >> reporter: mandela was already in his 70s when he walked out of prison, but his antiapartheid message resonated strongest with a younger generation. john ba
mandela on tuesday. >>> bay area churchgoers also honored the former south african president today. john shows us the celebration of his life and legacy at san francisco's glide memorial church. >> reporter: when san francisco's glide memorial church remembered nelson mandela at their services, the only thing missing was sadness. the mood was joyful as the children's choir honored the passing of the man who is being called the father of the nation. >> it's bigger than that....
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those days are long gone and that's part of nelson mandela's legacy, that he was able to lead the country to put those things in the past. >> john, just one of the other things that is amazing, mandela was, as we have all been discussing, okay, in the spirit of reconciliation, i would add the word forgiveness, which is a remarkable i think spiritual value that he had as well as political strategy, but john, he governed essentially with de klerk. many said it couldn't be done and they wound up sharing a nobel prize and managed to keep, as one person put it, a middle ground between white fears and black hopes. can you talk a little bit, and i will ask this question all night, his relationship with de klerk and how he was able to govern in a broader coalition. >> it was interest, he engaged in negotiations before f.w. de klerk took office and then with de klerk about the terms of hoihis own release. everyone knew where this was headed but not how it was going to work out. when they finally reached an accommodation, nelson mandela was released in 1990, he finally stood for election, took power in 1994, and his deputy president was f
those days are long gone and that's part of nelson mandela's legacy, that he was able to lead the country to put those things in the past. >> john, just one of the other things that is amazing, mandela was, as we have all been discussing, okay, in the spirit of reconciliation, i would add the word forgiveness, which is a remarkable i think spiritual value that he had as well as political strategy, but john, he governed essentially with de klerk. many said it couldn't be done and they...
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john. >> the memorial service for nelson mandela making news for a lot of reasons other than honoring thedid photo of the president that's made its way all over the world. while the prewas flying back here, congress was making a deal. we'll break down details on an actual budget agreed upon in our nation's capital. and as a consumer, are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? if so, you're not alone. how many of us have experienced customer rage? this is "way too early"! i have the volume but not actual anger. i cafa
john. >> the memorial service for nelson mandela making news for a lot of reasons other than honoring thedid photo of the president that's made its way all over the world. while the prewas flying back here, congress was making a deal. we'll break down details on an actual budget agreed upon in our nation's capital. and as a consumer, are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? if so, you're not alone. how many of us have experienced customer rage? this is "way too...
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mandela. >> i don't think there's one member of congress we haven't heard from. and also people taking inspiration from his political role. john boehner put out a statement today and yesterday that said this . . . nelson mandela addressed joint sessions of congress back in 1990 and 1994, and while all of the outpouring of praise is so positive then, back then it was controversial to some. a couple of members of congress k a wally boycotted his speech. it took an act of congress to go forth because president reagan tried to veto sanctions. they called the anc a terrorist organization. however, democrats and republicans came together and imposed those sanctions as it was seen as a point of leverage trying to put some economic pressure on south africa to cf1 oapartheid and free nelson >> some real complexities there. libby casey thank you. ♪ >>> some encouraging news for jobs and the economy today, patricia sabga has the details of the much better than expected november employment reports. >> reporter: for the second straight month the u.s. job market showed signs of improve. the economy added 203,000 jobs in november lowering th
mandela. >> i don't think there's one member of congress we haven't heard from. and also people taking inspiration from his political role. john boehner put out a statement today and yesterday that said this . . . nelson mandela addressed joint sessions of congress back in 1990 and 1994, and while all of the outpouring of praise is so positive then, back then it was controversial to some. a couple of members of congress k a wally boycotted his speech. it took an act of congress to go...
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you may even see more at the state attended nelson mandela's funeral then john f. kennedy's.here will be more protocol put in because of mandiba -- madiba's extended illness. >> he had said that he wanted a quiet exit, but when he was in pretoria hospital, it was anything but quiet. i do see it -- i do assume he got backlight when he was back with them. or not? >> under no feisty for jerry about this -- we said our goodbyes it while back. he has not been himself for a number of years. it was unclear how involved he was in any of these preparations. the man we know would have said we don't want -- said, i don't want a big funeral. just take me to where my ancestors are. i think he was a little disingenuous about that. he was of two minds. he would be, why such a small rural? ?- small funeral that he would approve of the government of south africa using the funeral exhibit the confidence of south africa. >> there is the legend, there is the myth of mandela, there was the mandela that you knew, and it was the mandela that new who and what he was and had time to reflect on it. te
you may even see more at the state attended nelson mandela's funeral then john f. kennedy's.here will be more protocol put in because of mandiba -- madiba's extended illness. >> he had said that he wanted a quiet exit, but when he was in pretoria hospital, it was anything but quiet. i do see it -- i do assume he got backlight when he was back with them. or not? >> under no feisty for jerry about this -- we said our goodbyes it while back. he has not been himself for a number of...