john markoff did a video. and the next day we were back with only only in the "new york times" story behind the story. >> rose: let me guess what you were talking about. >> the final d... >> rose: and how you knew who he was dying and 40 who he didn't nt to see and how they had to close him down? >> that was difficult reporting. where... >> rose: because you have to be sensitive or... >> because, you know, the families... the family didn't want to talk right away and you don't want to intrude. but nonetheless everyone... you know everyone is interested and his final weeks were interesting and he met with people including might i say, the same john markoff was one of these who saw him last summer. >> rose: but this was mainly about the last days of his life. >> right, it was. >> rose: that was sopowerful. >>. >> rose: >> but that's what "new york times" signature journalism does and when i talked about covering lobbying before it takes the reader behind the curtain of public events and explains why they happene