we don't know exactly where the robe with after john marshall died in 1835, but it is likely pass to his daughter mary marshall harvey who inherited most of his richmond property. although she owned the john marshall house which is marked in green on the map she and her household lived a few blocks away down briefly at marked in red. the rope was probably stored at that location for a period of time. the next time we have ya confirmed sighting of the rope is 1888. andy fischer harvey one of mary's daughters, so one of john marshall's granddaughters, mowed the rope to the virginia agricultural chemical agricultural exhibition.an they had a relics and antiquities selection. by 1892 amy and her sister emily were back at the john marshall house living there. for years that denigrated o other families but they were back in the family residence peter and one of the nephews, doctor norton mason recalled that the rope was tucked away in a box in the cabinet in the parler this is a picture of the parler at about 1890, and we interpret this as the small dining room, family dining space. and in

we don't know exactly where the rope went after john marshall died in 1835. likely pass to his daughter mary marshall harvey who inherited his richmond property. although she owned the darn marshall house which is marked in green on the map she lived a few blocks away or use it marked inis red. the robe was probably stored ate that location for a period of time. the next time we had a concern sighting of the road is 1888. amy fisher harvey one of amy's daughters one of john's granddaughters a general aquacultural tobacco exhibition. relics and actiq to cody section. my 1882 amy and her sister emily were back at the john marshall house living there. they had rented it out to other families but they're back in the family residence. and even that nephews doctor was tucked away in a box and the cabin in the parler this the picture of the parler about 1890.ed their approach of this is a small dining room of the family dining space. you see the corner there's a couple of doors i think that's the cabinet he is referring to. you can see x-ray vision through those doo

by 1892 annie and her sister were back at the john marshall house living there. for years it had been rented out but they were back in the family residence in one of the nephews dr. hat lee norton mason recalled that the robe was tucked away in a box in the cabinet in the parlor. this is a picture of the parlor in about 1890 and we now interpret this as the small dining room space. in the far back corner you will see a couple of doors and i think that's the cabinet he is referring to so if you can see with your x-ray vision through both stores that's where the robe is. he recalled how his mother, it is 12 years older at the time draped this robe over him and pranced around the house. the marshall house was transferred to the stewardship of the association for the preservation of virginia antiquities down on this preservation virginia and in 1913 the house opened to public and on that opening weekend the star attraction was the robe on loan from the harpy sisters. when emily died in 1920 the robe became part of the permanent collection. since that time the robe ha

they were back at the john marshall house living there. one of the nephews recalled that it was tucked away in a cabinet at the parlor and this is a pitcher of the parlor at about 1890. there useful but pointing to a couple of doors and i think that isan the covenant that he is referring to. he recalled how his mother pranced around the house. it transferred to the stewardship for the virginia antiquity and is preservation in 1911. in 1920 it became a part of our permanentt collection. since that time it had beenob extensively exhibited and one major conservation campaign took place with over 600 hours. an occasion of this 1962 conservation campaign he came back to the house and was gone again. there were various spots around the marshall house including this one in 1967. the exposure to light and express on the fibers all compounded the remarkable object. since 2005 there had been special events and visitors showing the road. there was a campaign to help support the conservation of the subject. the road can be safely and responsibly share

this is very much a partnership but it's really a great way to to -- the chief justice john marshall. that's just as quick sampling of some of the ways we are using it. >> thank you jen. panel we will hear from elizabeth vehmeyer with the national park service in d.c. along with administering the technical assistance to 55 of these areas and 34 sites. eshe is also working, sorry although technical issue here. along with 55 of these areas and 34 states the program provides technical assistance from the capability study process. she has also worked as an archaeologist specialist with the national park service and the american protection program. elizabeth. thanks chuck and i want to say thank you to preservation virginia and i'me happy to be here but i'm going to give an overview of the national heritage area program and where the national heritage areas are and a little bit about what they do that benefits the heritage areas and a little bit about how their designated in the process. first what our national heritage areas? the quick answer is they areby large landscapes of national imp

to tie current judicial issues back to our historic site of chief justice john marshall. so that's just a really quick sampling of some of the ways that that preservation virginia sites are using our historic landscapes. all right. thanks jim. now we will hear from elizabeth veemeyer who is a program coordinator with the national heritage areas program at the national park service in dc along with administering financial and technical assistance to 55 of these. areas in 34 sites excuse me. she's also. working i'm sorry having a little technical issue here and along with the ministering financial and technical assistance in 55 these areas and 34 states the nha program provides technical assistance on the feasibility study process for emerging nhas. she's also worked as an archaeologist grants management specialist with the national park service and for the american battlefield protection program. elizabeth thanks chip, and i just want to say thank you to preservation, virginia for the invitation this afternoon. i'm happy to be here. i'm going to give an overview of the nat

and six of the properties including and i will put in a quick plug, scott's town, john marshall house, jamestown and the cape henry lighthouse. i urge you all to come visit. she will briefly share some information on these historic sites.ou >> i know that most all of the panel is going to be talking about the swamp but before we get to that i'm going to talk about some of the ways that the site is utilizing our agency end the landscape around us. i'm going to give a brief little overview of some of the projects that wend are involved in. so i'm going to go ahead and share. >> sothere we go. okay so the first site that we are going to dive into is going to be patrick henry. this is a great aerial shot of the property and next i have a mapp drawn in the 60s i believe 63. it's upside down so you can see the orientation. but i did want to point out that atpo this point, scott's town is in the process of developing a master plan for the entirety so we are not just focused on the structure book so we can integrate the landscape for all of our visitors in the general public. we own about 23

the john marshall years. but it hasn't been -- that hasn't been true in the united states for a long time. we sort of show our disagreements and allow the world to judge who has the better of the argument. and for the most part i think that that's the better system. that we don't pretend that there's only one answer in tough cases and that we give the parties and everybody else sort of a chance to see the competing perspectives and to know that some cases do produce different thoughts about which outcome is correct. i mean, do i believe very strenuously, very strongly, in working strenuously to achieve consensus. so i do think it's better when the court can achieve more consensus among more actors and i hope and think that i try hard to participate in that process on our court in a constructive way. you know, i would rather have an opinion in which we decide less and achieve greater consensus in most cases than an in which we decide more and everybody splits because the opinion is overly ambitious. so i would

with me now to talk about the trump georgia case, is michael meers, a professor at atlanta's john marshal law school. this is remarkable. while we heard from the fulton county sheriff who says trump will be treated like everybody else, but what we saw in new york and in florida, trump was not subjected to a mugshot or even medical screenings. do you see that regardless of whether his attorneys object to it or not that he will indeed be treated like every other defendant in fulton county? >> i think the sheriff is going to follow the rules for trump like he would for anyone else. the wildcard with regard to trump's turning himself in is going to be the secret service. law gives the secret service certain responsibilities and rights when it comes to someone under their protection. >> what do you mean? how would that differentiate from how other defendants are treated? yes he'll have that detail with him, but what does that mean in terms of the process? >> the secret service is going to go with him through this process. i fully believe he'll be fingerprinted, mugshot, probably not a body sea

john marshall opened that trial 214 years ago today.serves, television hadn't been invented in 1807. we don't have excuse now. we've got television. we could have live coverage. the country and the world could see this most fundamental trial of the ma el len area. >> tv cameras are not allowed in federal trials as of now. let's see if that ever changes. >> nothing inevitable. >> i would certainly like to see cameras inside so the whole country, the whole world could see that trial. but as of now, no cameras, tv cameras are allowed inside. how big of a test, professor s this for america's judiciary and for the rule of law? >> well it's a very important test. the rule of law looks like it will prevail. but the rule of law is subordinate to the rule of politics. and even though the former president tried unsuccessfully to overturn the election, he might succeed this time in becoming president again or having someone else become president and then simply erase this trial. simply -- then dismisses it all. the people who say we can't pardon o

well obviously jefferson and john marshall see things in the same light and marshall was the chief justice. right. so when you've got a constitution and interpreting the constitution, it is fundamental law, period. it sets the framework of government. the fact that our government doesn't work in the way that it was fully envisioned is is, you know, partly partly maybe good in a lot of ways, maybe not so good, but jefferson had a lot of ideas and never got any traction. and i can't remember first part of your question, but that's the answer to the second part. the constitution being. a living document. well, i agree with justice scalia. i'd rather see a document etched on mt. rushmore than, a document that changes with the perceptions of nine unelected ten. you'd life tenured in. sadly we are out of time. well, thanks so much for. taking this deeper dive into early life at the bradley foundation. we devote a lot of our energies to sustaining and restoring the very of civil society that was evidence during coolidge's times. and i think we can draw some conclusions about what we need to do, t

you know what happened, james madison and stice of -- the chief justice of the supreme court, john marshall, voted for the bill even after that objti. so, if anything, it cuts the other way. but i am not aware of a decision by this court that invalides early state constitutional provisions as being fedell unconstitutional in the way that this theory does. justice sotomayor: and you don't take quarrel with the fact that a state could interpret a state constitutionn way that violates the federal constitution? that's what they're arguing here. mr. katyal: right. no, we don't doubt that. it's suggests that, as we were talking about, that stratospheric standard of review because it's never -- to my knowledge, it's never really happened by ts court. and i think bush versus palm beach canvassing bays it's got to be the highest standard, higher than justice rehnquist's opinion in bush versus gore. justice yor: well, i -- i thought of those cases as basically saying that there was a federal due process problem if interpretation violates due process in some way. mr. katyal: correct. there's a novelty

marshall. she is with the john jay college or criminal justice in new york. welcome back to the day. good to see you too. and i want to know from you to how close has the us come to dr. king's dream coming true. as i think by the time dr. king was assassinated, close to that time period. he had started to look differently at his own dream, his own aspiration, because we're human and what human beings do is fallible. but here's the problem that we're encountering more than anything else. african americans have progressed greatly. we have an african american on the us supreme court, as was pointed out, we've had african american president, we have an african american vice president. we have advocate americans in every level of government and businesses in the arts, in sports, and that frightens people. and so we're always going to have problems because they're always going to be people who believe that their identity is that of someone superior to all people of color at all non christians. and so therefore, there's always going to be a problem, but this country have to realize that thi

used to say that the chain of command of the justice department was, short and straight, john door to work. marshall to robert kennedy to the president of the united states and he had great respect and admiration for the people that brought him to the eisenhower administration, for sure. but he really thought that the level of the justice department and the intensity of their efforts and the support that he got from the from the attorney general and the president was phenomenal. and so, you know, after that, you know, he went back to his hotel and sort of the way that the the kennedys operate know they said call the white house. the president wants to talk to you. and john kennedy came. the united states calling it he was an assistant attorney general. he was the deputy to the assistant attorney general saying, good job, john. and old and old miss. you know, you talk about drummond avenue, my mother was on drummond avenue and robert kennedy called her during the night to tell her that when meredith meredith was okay and john's okay, he also called dad and said, hey, john, you're a long way from wisc

new york herald estimated hundred and 50,000 people view the president, general john dix, who was essentially grand marshal of things while in new york city, estimated 100,000 people viewed the president. likely that number lies somewhere in between. next stop in albany, dr. brown, who was accompanying the along with frank sands, they had to issue this statement because the new york press had been so, shall we say, unkind about lincoln's appearance. all right. and they issued this statement to the press. but as we see lincoln moving further west, we see the press coverage of his appearance becoming more favorable until when he finally arrives in chicago. the chicago tribune reports no corpse in the world is better prepared, according to appearance. at the same time, the president his funeral is being held in albany. john wilkes booth is killed now. i thought this a little interesting when i was down at the national funeral history museum. they had this book here from the secret. and i don't know if you can read this little card here, but it says this book essentially contains the carefully guarded truth th

general john who was essentially the grand marshal of things while in new york city estimated 100,000 view the president. it's likely that number lies somewhere in between. next stop in albany, doctor brown who is accompanying the remains along with frank sams they had to issue a statement because the new york press had shall we say so unkind about the appearance and they issued this statement to the press as we see lincoln moving further west we see the press coverage becoming more favorable until when he finally arrives in chicago, "the chicago tribune" reports no corpse in the world is better prepared according to appearance. at the same time the president's funeral is being held in albany, john wilkes booth is killed. now, i thought this was a little interesting when i was down at the national funeral history museum they had this book here from thef secret service and i don't know if you can read this little corridor here but it says the book essentially contains the guarded truth that he wasn't found and executed as was believed by the public. now i am not one for conspiracy theo

generaler john who was essentiay the grand marshal in new york city estimated 100,000 people viewed thesent andnd it's likely the number lies somewhere in between. the next stop is albany. dr. who is accompanying the remained along with -- had issued a statement gives the new york press had been so shall we say i'm kind about lincoln's appearance. they issued this statement to p the press. as we keep lincoln moving further west to see the press coverage of his appearance becoming more favorable until he arrives in chicago. the "chicago tribune" reports no corpse in the world is better prepared for an appearance. at the same time the president's funeral being held in albany john wilkes listed as killed. i thought this was interesting. what i founded the national history exam i don't know if he can read this little card here but it says this essentially contains the carefully guarded truth that booth was not executed as once believed by the public. and i'm not a believer in conspiracy theories but he did order the photographer by the name of alexander gardner to photograph john wilkes-boo

marshals. placed under arrest and then head up to the courthouse. and all along this street, as you mentioned, john, we're seeing these metal barriers all around. what they're doing basically is keeping people to the sidewalk on this side and on the other side they're not even letting people walk. because that is the side where we believe the former president will be entering. the other thing really significant here this morning, we're not seeing the number of people we have seen previously when trump has appeared in court. certainly not to the level we saw in florida and certainly not to the level we saw in new york city. so we're not seeing those groups, those crowds yesterday. it's early, right. he happens not here until 4:00. but for now law enforcement taking every precaution getting ready, getting their people in place, getting equipment in place. as they await his arrival here sometime around 4:00, john. >> i'm fascinating by the snowplows. those are actual snowplows not because they expect snow but because they are using these big trucks to block the road. >> reporter: yeah that's what they

broke house in the marshall time district of johannesburg city center and used to be a business to a district in south africa's economic hub. probably the middle of has moved from john his back a well fly of sizes took about 2 hours to put out the place in the building behind me. there's being a search and recovery operations that have been going on for far longer than that was the day at least 70. the people were killed in the file that starts to disclosing and the early hours of thursday morning. we've spoken to i with this is we've said that they so people jumping out of the building as they struggled to escape that inferno. i'm going to step out of suck, to give you an idea of what it looks like. it's a 5 story building and then as i said, i was message i witnessed a said that they were allowed to to the place when they heard people screaming, screaming for help. and it took some time for firefighters to reach this building, but many remain trapped in the building because it's over was overcrowded. and many struggles to get out of this is what's considered a hijacked building in the old central business district. all the johannesburg, a building that was abandon

. >> john: let's not forget in the 2016 campaign donald trump at one point was at 1%. that changed as we all know. leslie marshall and charlie hurt. thanks for catching up with us. governor desantis will be busy over the next few days. fox weather ahead. idalia is a hurricane. people on the northwest coast bracing for powerful winds and life threatening storm surge. big concerns for florida's gulf course. it could intensify rapidly before hitting shore possibly getting to a category 3 before it makes landfall. ron desantis with an update this morning. listen here. >> the storm is forecast to make landfall on florida's big bend tomorrow morning as a major hurricane. so we have, you know, short amount of time here. i would urge everybody to take the appropriate precautions. i still have time to do what you need to do. we will be faced with a major hurricane hitting the state of florida within the next 24 to 36 hours. >> john: 20 million people are at risk. 46 florida counties are under emergency declarations. people in several counties along the gulf coast have been ordered to evacuate their homes. officials pleadi

marshals. he will be fingerprinted and booked on criminal charges and be arraigned before a magistrate judge this afternoon. he will be represented by johnrom one of his former attorneys parlatore who insists that the case is weak. >> it comes down to the being a

marshals. he will be fingerprinted and booked on criminal charges and be arraigned before a magistrate judge this afternoon. he will be represented by john morrow. the defense still taking shape but we've heard more from one of his former attorneys parlatore who insists that the case is weak. >> it comes down to the being a achilles' heel of knowledge. jack smith must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that on the night of january 5 and into january 6, that donald trump knew that he had lost the election. and reading through the indictment, i didn't see anything new which would actually be able to establish that. >>> and just within the last hour, trump posted about today's events writing i'm now going to washington, d.c. to be arrested for having challenged the corrupt, rigged and stolen election. it is a great honor because i'm being arrested for you. he also wrote, i need one more indictment to ensure my election. joining us now, sasha burns live in bedminster, new jersey. tom winter is also covering the arraignment. and also peter baker is here with us. as well as chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney, senior fbi official and an msnbc c

georgia, and as i think marshal pointed out a moment ago, there are potentially others that can be part of this. there's an interplay between this and those other cases. if, for example, john eastman or rudy giuliani faces a charge here and ultimately decides that it's in their best interest to cooperate, that could have an impact on these other investigations as well. so definitely important. there's really a multiplier effect and interplay between these different prosecutions that we should keep in mind. >> another commonality in all of this, marshal, even though there are distinctions of these three indictments and now a possible fourth, is that trump's style is to go after the prosecutors, go after the special counsel, jack smith, go after the d.a., alvin bragg and also his record of going after -- and i'm talking about verbally, taunting, threats, however you want to put it, of fani willis. so given that, then, marshal, how does that continue to complicate these cases, even as these prosecutors, special counsel may try to coordinate with one another? >> the atmosphere of threats and intimidation and vitreal has only been getting stronger and stronger, and with fani wi

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john w davis's arguments. the the brown case. now some people have other views about that i'm holding on to mine and because somebody proved me wrong, let me say thurgood marshall. yes. now history treats him as greatest lawyer of, the 20th century. it's well-deserved. he is remarkable. he tried many of his most important cases in front of judge waring. he won every case. the only one he didn't win initially was briggs versus elliott. but waring dissented from a three judge panel. and he that case before the u.s. supreme, many people have forgotten that thurgood did not argue brown versus board. he argued briggs versus of the supreme court. but absolutely now, there's also a story that he advised wearing advise the lawyers. carter and marshall was higginbotham the bob carter and marshall were embraced they were the. they advised him to open the frontal attack against segregation rather than to argue for equal rights to get a bus like the white kids that opened up frontal attack and so segregation percy is right but what had he had had a very successful strategy they use plessy plessy as a they said we're not challenging separate but we are demanding equality be

marshals, he will then make that initial court appearance. and the court confirms for us that he will be arraigned, he'll be flanked by his attorneys, todd blanch and john lauro in the lead there. we fully expect he will plead not guilty to the four felonies he's facing. three are conspiracy charges. one is an obstruction charge. now, the magistrate judge will go before today is not the judge that will preside over the trial. that is a judge named tanya chutki, a 2014 obama appointee. she'll deal with the majority of the trial. this is just the initial court appearance and the arraignment. and this magistrate judge, we don't expect it to take a long time on the scene out here. by the way, obviously heightened security. you can see the us marshals put up railing all around here. a lot of law enforcement, a handful of protesters, some for the president, some against the former president, and a lot of media. it's somewhat resembles a scene we saw in june when we were down in miami, outside the courthouse, when former president trump was arraigned for alleged mishandling of classified documents. but it's a little less of a circus, but nonetheless, certainly