he hated john marshall. he was in 1806 to have salt rubbed into the john marshall wound because in 1806 jefferson eagerly looked to richmond, virginia, where aaron burr was on trial for treason which jefferson thought he was definitely guilty of and the luck of the assignment of supreme court judges to the various outlying districts. john marshall was the at aaron trial in richmond and instructed the jury exactly as to what the treason clause in the constitution meant. and the jury may not like the jefferson's former vice president, jefferson hayes, but he ain't guilty so jefferson hated number of people. one of them was marshall. another one was burr. and of course, another was alexander hamilton, who, though he was dead by a at the end of jefferson's first term, as in the presidency of the time, jefferson was leaving office. and what. should 1809 he he he knew that his own past rule vision of an america of farmers small big farmers people close to the earth who were by that very fact moral is superior to p

i would say this john marshall, as a father story. john, john marshall. i mean, you know, chief justice who basically transformed ed the supreme court, which was pretty much nothing before he was there in a little power. and they start out they don't even have an office and there you know nobody wants to be it there trying to get somebody to be chief justice and he doesn't want it. you know, jay does want to come back to do that. i think jay was a founder, too. but from marshall, i live in new york now. so that no john marshall, i mean, who, as i said, sort of is kind of held on to the was that held on to the federalist redoubt in the supreme court in the united states, who transformed the american economy set, a notion of judicial review, triumph who made nationalism an important thing through his construction up there. mcculloch v, maryland and so i would definitely say he's a person who's a founder. he wasn't in the revolutionary war. he did fight and he was a politician and so forth. but he's not thought of. i don't think that most people think of him

joining her on stage is joni albrecht, director of the john marshall center for constitutional and civics at the virginia museum history and culture jay barth, director of the william j. clinton presidential library and museum john bridgeland co-chaired ceo move perfect and former director white house domestic policy council and julia kaufman associate department director and senior researcher for rand. please join me in welcoming our. tt, thank you so much for wonderful introduction. we're going to dig right in to this panel and i'm going to ask this first which civics and history are two sides of the same coin? how do you view the relationship between the two? well i think you put it well. they are the two sides of the same coin. i think they really work together. maybe like gears one drives the other. i think one way that we look at it, at the john marshall center, is that history really answers the why of civics. we look backwards to see how we govern and form communities today. and i think that's so important. and then i think civics answers the why does it matter now of history? and

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john marshal says we've got to be better at self-screening. tell your doctor if you notice anything be a norm. >> very important information. >> thanks to our viewers. aaron -- erin burnett starts "outfront" next. >> trump making a mockery out of a manhattan courtroom daring a judge to kick him out and insulting the woman he sexually assaulted. and a snuggling operation into the united states. our david culver following their dangerous journey and finding the migrants living in the united states when they get here. we'll see where he is tonight. >>> and a royal mystery. buck hamm palace announced kate middleton had very serious abdominal surgery. what's wrong? let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett. tonight the front charade. former president trump is about to speak in new hampshire after spending ghat had a new hampshire courtroom where he dared the judge in the e. jean carroll damages case out of the courtroom. this is what he wanted, the theater, the coverage, all of it. he wants this case to look like a charade, like a joke, t

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jefferson, who really would have loved to change the size of the supreme court because he and john marshall were constantly at odds like people related in virginia can be. they were actually distant relations. they were from the same class. jefferson became really frustrated with the federalists who he thought were treated to the bastion of supreme court even though they lost election after election. the one thing i thought was shocking to me was during the 2016 democratic primary. people may remember the kennedys were asked to show hands if they supported court packing. the only candidate who did not raise his hand was joe biden. all the other people running for president on the democratic ticket in 2016 were in favor of court packing, so i am glad it has not succeeded the last four years, but i worry about the future, whether it is going to return, and of court packing succeeds, i think the supreme court will become the court of 1937. fdr did not succeed in packing the court. the justices as we described had become so worried that they changed their minds and upheld the rest of the new de

jefferson, who really would have loved to change the size of the supreme court because he and john marshall were constantly at odds like people related in virginia can be. they were actually distant relations. they were from the same class. jefferson became really frustrated with the federalists who he thought were treated to the bastion of supreme court even though they lost election after election. the one thing i thought was shocking to me was during the 2016 democratic primary. people may remember the kennedys were asked to show hands if they supported court packing. the only candidate who did not raise his hand was joe biden. all the other people running for president on the democratic ticket in 2016 were in favor of court packing, so i am glad it has not succeeded the last four years, but i worry about the future, whether it is going to return, and of court packing succeeds, i think the supreme court will become the court of 1937. fdr did not succeed in packing the court. the justices as we described had become so worried that they changed their minds and upheld the rest of the new de

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i wanted i wanted to use the use of law the way john dore and bert marshall and the others in the civil rights division were using it in alabama and mississippi. and i was also shaped by my law school. i went to the chicago law school where i had great professors. my constitute and a law professor was philip kurland. and he taught us he taught us two things. he taught us the importance of the principles of judicial restraint that judicial restraint is really the only that keeps the federal courts, which are unelected from stepping into the lane of the other branches of government. and he also taught us that the most fundamental purpose of the courts is to protect the individual from the abuse of government power. that's what shaped my thinking about this. and then when i got appointed to the court i came directly from law practice. you know, i was not a district judge and i didn't have a judicial philosophy other than what i brought from law school and what i learned as a litigator. but i read lots of books of judicial biographies, and i read lots of cases and they are the concept of ju

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used to say that the chain of command of the justice department was, short and straight, john door to work. marshall to robert kennedy to the president of the united states and he had great respect and admiration for the people that brought him to the eisenhower administration, for sure. but he really thought that the level of the justice department and the intensity of their efforts and the support that he got from the from the attorney general and the president was phenomenal. and so, you know, after that, you know, he went back to his hotel and sort of the way that the the kennedys operate know they said call the white house. the president wants to talk to you. and john kennedy came. the united states calling it he was an assistant attorney general. he was the deputy to the assistant attorney general saying, good job, john. and old and old miss. you know, you talk about drummond avenue, my mother was on drummond avenue and robert kennedy called her during the night to tell her that when meredith meredith was okay and john's okay, he also called dad and said, hey, john, you're a long way from wisc

marshall. she's a professor of constitutional law and john jay college and new york. she's the author of numerous books on voting rights and race relations in america. professor, it's good to have you back on the program. president biden. i'm sure you were listening in. he was speaking to this long ark of history today, american democracy after the civil war, american democracy in the polarized present. i mean, do you agree that the states are indeed that great? are we talking about an ex essential moment for american democracy? now? we certainly are and unfortunately the risk to democracy is not just the risk of the united states because of donald trump becomes president. again, he's already decided he's going to re vengeance on anyone who opposes him, especially the so called enemy. he already has the government and anybody who didn't vote for him before, but he's also going to join with other strong been dictators around the country. i mean, around the world and create havoc around the globe. it will not just risks within the borders of the united states. there wil

thank you, marshall cohen for your reporting on this issue. john>>> what about other legal cases facing donald trump, cases that we reasonably thought we might have rules on by now? with me now is cnn legal analyst jennifer rogers, counselor, great to see you here. the first one, the federal appeals panel that heard arguments three weeks ago, january 9th, over whether donald trump had some presidential im immunity, over january 6th. three weeks no ruling. what's going on? >> i'm surprised, i thought it would be sooner because we have a trial date coming up. listen, it's one of two things, either they're really just trying to put together a comprehensive thorough pervasive opinion that they think that the supreme court did not take on appeal. or there's a dissent. when there's a dissent, judges engage with one another, they try to persuade one another and exchange drafts that makes the procedure longer. it might be a 2 to 1 split on this. >> as you say, it might not change the outcome, but what is the ruling going forward? >> if one has dissented it

inquiry into the massive file, if you building in downtown john his bag resumed last august, more than 70 people were killed in the central marshall town. district was ablaze that swept through an abundant 5 story, a boat in which was being occupied and rented out immediately. locals referred to these buildings as being hijacked. the file focused attention on the problem of derelict buildings on the deans at the post, the people living inside them. one of africa's which is cities that he's asked. i also left thousands of families homeless. many have been relocated to a new new builds mix of cell to that d. c is told to be unsafe. it'll be a correspondence. diane hawk visits at the site. this form of parking lot is now home to over 100 survivors of the marshalltown fire. one of south africa's west recent tragedies they were relocated to denver assuming industrial area, with hardly any shops or schools. the new temporary homes have no power or indoor plumbing residents, so i'm happy with the conditions. before we came here, we thought this would be a good place, but this is not a good place to stay. when you look at the hygiene and

john. ken coughlin, the fire marshal. it says batteries 2.0 and should be 2.7 or something. the times we have gone through this. i will cover highlights more of the changes happened over it. again, i will reuse some of the slides and hopefully this will lead to a discussion among comments that come forward. i want to say, what we tootle mower mobility devices. they are not just e-bikes they are skateboards, scooters-it is about the scooters. we know those start fires as much as anything else and we know what happen years ago with the hover boards that came out there. hazards. again, what are hazards? it is about mischarging more then anything else and thermal runway when one cell fails and ignites the next one. lithium ion batteries [indiscernible] the firefighters we are snding in there have to put up with toxic fume s and explosion risk. what is this legislation? what does it do for us? it will establish the standards. charging and storage, two different things. establishing safety certifications. not just [indiscernible] standards and [indiscernible] prohibiting the use o

john p or feel you thank you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line? after world war 2 diplomats and generals from around the world creative united nations, they launch the marshall plan to rebuild europe, and they turn the occupation of japan into a re wiring of that nation's politics. it's economy and even national psyche traumatic time supports us to rethink, to recalibrate and redesign. and that will happen with gaza as well, whether the west likes it or not. israel has cost previous attempts at economic development in gaza, but for thousands of years because a has been a prosperous and large cross road between north africa and the lavon helping cause had it become what it is always been. is the kind of creative thinking that turns a nightmare into a thriving and robust economy and a state that palestinians will one day be able to cherish and celebrate sure there's a long road ahead. but that's a vision that rides with history. and that's the bottom line, the, the car has been going off of the sauce the full day. it's a 120 kilometers in many areas. how does the news continues to define their basic needs to live? certainly this year most of them are some of t

john peter, feel you thank you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line after world war 2? diplomats in general, from around the world, created the united nations. they launch the marshall plan to rebuild europe, and they turn the occupation of japan into a re wiring of that nation's politics. it's economy and even national psyche. traumatic time supports us to rethink, to recalibrate and redesign. and that will happen with gaza as well, whether the west likes it or not. israel has cost previous attempts at economic development in gaza, but for thousands of years because a has been a prosperous and losh cross road between north africa and the lavon helping guys have become what it is always been. is the kind of creative thinking that turns a nightmare into a thriving and robust economy and a state that palestinians will one day be able to cherish and celebrate sure there's a long road ahead. but that's a vision that rhymes with history. and that's the bottom line, the of the memory center for nearly 3 years. evelyn lemitrus has been investigating the chart fen trafficking operation. now she's putting together the team that's going to rate it. and lexie though, they're s

john kirbs an update on the middle east. >> good afternoon everybody. i will be very quick. i'm sure you've all seen reports on the iranians appear seizure of saint nicholas marshall island we condemn the seizure in their unwanted into a lisa schiff in the crib is an acceptable ask any to start. we will work with allies and partners to determine the full range of iran's destabilizing behavior in close coronation with the international committee. i've gotten a question over the last two and each time i've gotten a question and my answer was as satisfying as a gravy sandwich so this is about the israeli decision for the supreme court. obviously i can't comment about cases before the supreme court but i can affirm the united states completely supports the critical work that journalists are doing around t world and certainly in the conflict in gaza and we want to make sure they are but to do that safely securely effectively and with full transparency. we discussed a wide range of topics with their israeli counterparts and i won't get into the specifics but i can assure you that media freedom is and will always be a part of those discussions. >> thank you. today at the

john w davis's arguments. the the brown case. now some people have other views about that i'm holding on to mine and because somebody proved me wrong, let me say thurgood marshall. yes. now history treats him as greatest lawyer of, the 20th century. it's well-deserved. he is remarkable. he tried many of his most important cases in front of judge waring. he won every case. the only one he didn't win initially was briggs versus elliott. but waring dissented from a three judge panel. and he that case before the u.s. supreme, many people have forgotten that thurgood did not argue brown versus board. he argued briggs versus of the supreme court. but absolutely now, there's also a story that he advised wearing advise the lawyers. carter and marshall was higginbotham the bob carter and marshall were embraced they were the. they advised him to open the frontal attack against segregation rather than to argue for equal rights to get a bus like the white kids that opened up frontal attack and so segregation percy is right but what had he had had a very successful strategy they use plessy plessy as a they said we're not challenging separate but we are demanding equality be

marshal in the front row and city attorney sitting here, maybe we can answer these now. is there issue of state preemption deputy city attorney the land use committee want informed about? >> johns to form which indicate the ordinance is defensible inchallenged. questions came up recently before this meeting about the interplay between the ordinance and state law which we are looking into. don't have a complete analysis of that question or those questions at this meeting. certainly will by next meeting whether you continue the item today or pass it first reading today. >> this raises process things and as president of the board and long-term member of this body, generally if there are some after the fact legal infirmties or questions president of the board knows about it and may suggest a continuance, but this is catching me totally by surprise. generally somebody tells me like this item is continued--mr. fire marshal, are you-my understanding of state law is that the state uniform building code, we -relative to the local conditions regulate more stringently if it is in the best interest of life safety and you made a presentation to the land use committee where you talked about

marshal in the front row and city attorney sitting here, maybe we can answer these now. is there issue of state preemption deputy city attorney the land use committee want informed about? >> johns to form which indicate the ordinance is defensible inchallenged. questions came up recently before this meeting about the interplay between the ordinance and state law which we are looking into. don't have a complete analysis of that question or those questions at this meeting. certainly will by next meeting whether you continue the item today or pass it first reading today. >> this raises process things and as president of the board and long-term member of this body, generally if there are some after the fact legal infirmties or questions president of the board knows about it and may suggest a continuance, but this is catching me totally by surprise. generally somebody tells me like this item is continued--mr. fire marshal, are you-my understanding of state law is that the state uniform building code, we -relative to the local conditions regulate more stringently if it is in the best interest of life safety and you made a presentation to the land use committee where you talked about