john mcardle: maxine in new york. can you talk about the race debate as you saw it on the ground develop from wednesday night? robert costa: charleston has a troubled history when it comes to racial history. this is a place where slaves were brought in. there are still the remnants of a slave market in charleston not far from ame emmanuel. the tensions from the past, the crimes from the past haunt the city. but in the last 40 years under mayor raililey, a move for peace. this is a city that hasn't had uproar in the streets decade after decade. you have seen a lot of growth in charleston and charleston deserves credit for moving forward in a lot of ways. but i think the caller, the anger is there there were not mass protests in charleston. but it is right beneath the surface in almost every conversation. people kept telling the two things on the ground. one, this is a charleston. charleston is better than this. they are really protective of the progress charleston has made, black or white. they are proud of their city.

john mcardle: william yeomans is our guest. we're talking about the history of federal hate crime law. if you want to join the conversation republicans (202) 748-8001, (202) 748-8000 democrats, independents (202) 748-8002. william yeomans is a law and government fellow at american universities washington college of law. we appreciate your time. we will start with muriel in florida. for republicans. good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to say this person was just evil. he is just evil. i hope people control themselves. i hope it doesn't make it worse by people taking it out on everybody and things happen after this. i just hope people keep calm. people like this boy should be put to death. people like that -- our tax money should not be pay for him to go to trial. like all the others that went into schools and all of the rest of the places that they killed so many people. they should be put to death instead of having a trial for them. and another thing. why was this person thinking of going into a place where he knew

kendra hinkle: and john mcardle was a shoemaker.hey still have the book shingle for his business at the andrew johnson museum and library. he also opened a tavern in the town of warrensburg, tennessee as well. susan swain: we referenced the scrap book. i think we saw one of those in the video. but denise layman wants to know, do any of her scrapbooks still exist? jacqueline berger: i'll change it to how many of her scrapbooks exist. kendra hinkle: we have one of her scrapbooks now on display at the house. i left it out. i pulled it out for the show. and that's generated a lot of interest by the public. susan swain: what kinds of things did she collect? kendra hinkle: she collected newspaper articles primarily about her husband. she would show him some in the evening, some in the morning depending on the tone. susan swain: we were also in the age of photography by this point. did she collect any photographs? kendra hinkle: no photographs in there, but -- susan swain: political badges and things of that nature? kendra hinkle: there's

john mcardle on twitter says rand paul was grandstanding for personal gain and added no substance, just emotion for this great. you may agree or disagree. give us a call on the lines. on the independent line this is james. caller: rand paul is just grandstanding and this will hurt him but there is one question i have been asking to everybody is talking about the security of america. who allowed those people in 9/11 -- host: as you go on, back to rand paul what you think it will hurt him? caller: he has done not done anything since he has been there. host: philip from new york on the libertarian line to caller: -- libertarian line. caller: thank god for the libertarian line again. every once in a while i have to switch to republican so i can vote for somebody. i will vote for rand paul. i believe in everything he says and i think this country needs libertarian. too bad new york state will hardly let a libertarian get on the ballot in host: when it comes to -- on the ballot. host: when it comes to what he said in the usa have you think that plays out to his campaign going on. caller: i am