[applause] >> john mcginnis. >> this discussion has, i am sure you agree, been enlightening and stimulating. we have learned about fish that only die temporarily and other matters conlan and it is no wonder that this panel has become one of the popular high light features of our conference. we are now going to bring the conference to close. i would like to call judge karen williams. >> i too want to thank each of our panelists today, and also professor howard, for the wonderful job that he did as our moderator. this term included decisions on a variety of subjects, and you all did a masterful job of exploring those decisions providing us with important take aways. there were several other people i would like to thank. chief justice roberts, his willingness to be addressed to the conference. this session added a lot to the discussion. to the most recent supreme court 7. my good colleague, paul newline, i am committed to you for what you did as program chair, this has just been fabulous, it was most informative. and a great success. to my good colleague, judge wilkinson. i might be the chief

i don't think you can find any better panelists than london greenhouse, it john mcginnis, and ted olson. we're going to discuss some retirements and the past supreme court term. we're very proud of that panelists of this caliber would join us for the occasion. we are especially delighted as always to have our friend and circuit justice, the chief justice. as i mentioned last night, it is sometimes very hard to get judges to be unanimous about anything. i think you can say about judges sometimes, you can say about legislatures. getting together on something is like herding cattle -- herding cats. those of us and the federal judiciary are arguing -- it is out of respect. he is someone of great warmth and great humor. in the enormous legal skills. one of the things i think that we respect some much about him is that he has an essential sense of the dignity of the job. those of us in the federal judiciary are absolutely -- it is our great good fortune to have someone of the chief justice's caliber leading our system. i have a few questions of you, chief. you mentioned last night in your rem

we have john mcginnis. welcome back. he is a professor of law at northwestern university of school of law and knows the justice department from the inside, a much published scholar. we also have well-known to you a washington attorney who has argued, i think, 52 cases before the supreme supreme court that'a record but certainly puts him in the big league of practitioners before that body. i know my colleagues feel as i do in thanking the fourth circuit, chief justice williams, judge neirmeyer and the other judges of the circuit for their hospitality. i can't thank the staffpeople too much for having helped us with the arrangements, so they have made us comfortable and so that the panel doesn't assume your expectations it is not because the staff didn't do their best. we are now in the fourth year of the so-called roberts court. there is the convention of calling the supreme court by the name of the chief justice that is sometimes a little bit deceptive. we have every reason to believe that this will be in every sense of

don't think you can find any better panelist than jan crawford greenberg and lizzie greenhouse and john mcginnis and ted olson. they are going to discuss replacements an retirements, and the past supreme court term. we're very proud that our pals of this caliber would join us for the occasion, and we're especially delighted, as always, to help our friends to serve as the chief justice. as i mentioned last night, sometimes it's very hard to get judges to be unanimous about anything. i think you can say anything you can say about judges sometimes, which you can say about legislature is getting them together on something is like herding cows, but if there's one thing that those of us in the federal judiciary argue now about in this hour of respect, affection for the chief justice. he is someone of great warmth and great humor, and enormous legal skills, and one of the things i think we respect so much about him is he has an essential sense of the dignity of the job, so those of us in the federal judiciary to have someone of the chief justice's caliber leading our system. i have a few questions of y

"the new york times" and she is now a scholar of residents at yale law school, we haven't john oldham mcginnis, he is a professor of law at northwestern university school of law. he knows the justice apparent from the inside much published scholar. and we have ted olson also well known to you. a washington attorney who has argued i think 52 cases before the supreme court, that is not a record but certainly put some in the big league of practitioners before that body. i know my colleagues feel as i do in thinking the fourth circuit, chief judge williams, judge niemeyer, and the other judges of the circuit for their hospitality. an extraordinary staff. i can't think the staff people too much for having helped us with the arrangements so they have made us comfortable and so that the panel doesn't suit your expectations not because the circuit and a staff didn't do their best. we are as you know now in the fourth year of the so-called roberts court. there is the convention of calling the supreme court by the name of the chief justice that is sometimes a little bit deceptive here and we have reason