mark: in the immortal words of john mclachlan, wrong!hey are testing whether outside groups can turn out aberrations and data. the koch's network is divided. i don't think it will get behind one candidate. those five they are looking favorably on getting a ton of support from the koch network. there are a lot of huge players, and others will be significantly more decisive in the short term. john: wow. it's certainly true that it will dilute their influence. mark: they are cautious. john: i grew with that, but the sophistication and the amount of money you would be crazy not to pay a little attention to those guys. mark: you know i say? have a "koch" and a smile. john: clinton had a private fundraising session at somebody's home yesterday. what it is folks up to when they are not in public? we never know what they are doing. what exactly do the presidential prospects and their advisers do? mark: we barely know. mike murphy, who is working with jeb bush, used to be a very visible guy. i have not seen him in public much. he is doing a lot o