john mcnesby is not talking about this guy in any political sense, and i'm not, either.his guy is way off the map on anything possible. so i don't care about what managerial experience he had or not. he's a radical, and the mob that was with him the night on election night was chanting "'f' the police." when that was stopped and quieted down, they were chanting, "no good cops in a racist system." krasner then lectured everybody on freedom of speech and donald trump. he should have apologized, and he should have told those people that's not what he represents. i fear that he does. he was perfectly fine with that under the guise of freedom of speech. how would you feel being a cop in philadelphia today? >> but he was actually quoted in the newspaper as saying, "i don't necessarily believe what those people said." >> george, though -- george, isn't that pretty tepid? do you remember any public figure engaged in this? >> he should have said -- he did say it. he said, "i defend their right of free speech, but i don't agree with what they said." i don't think that grossman is