john, welcome to mark mcternan. john, welcome to mark dolan tonight.he sequel , is it ? 1997, the sequel, is it? >> well, no, it's the 21st century, not the 20th century. and the leads that keir is having are actually greater than what the ones that, um, that tony had in a similar position. you know the leads are. i've looked at the last ten polls and the leads are between 15 and 24% with half the polls with a 20 points or more lead. and um, that's the difficulty , uh, for that's the difficulty, uh, for anybody like quentin letts who is saying there's a route back for the tory party because, you know, we've had this summer of campaign weeks from the tory party and the final, the final week before the of recess ends with this crumbling school story. um, and so the image what's the image of the current government. it's either being poured into the sea or into rivers or it is schools with roofs, which are so dangerous. pupils have to be decanted from them. i think these are going to be the lasting images that define government. it's define this government

john, welcome to mark mcternan. john, welcome to mark dolan tonight.he sequel , is it ? 1997, the sequel, is it? >> well, no, it's the 21st century, not the 20th century. and the leads that keir is having are actually greater than what the ones that, um, that tony had in a similar position. you know the leads are. i've looked at the last ten polls and the leads are between 15 and 24% with half the polls with a 20 points or more lead. and um, that's the difficulty , uh, for that's the difficulty, uh, for anybody like quentin letts who is saying there's a route back for the tory party because, you know, we've had this summer of campaign weeks from the tory party and the final, the final week before the of recess ends with this crumbling school story. um, and so the image what's the image of the current government. it's either being poured into the sea or into rivers or it is schools with roofs, which are so dangerous. pupils have to be decanted from them. i think these are going to be the lasting images that define government. it's define this government

john mcternan. phil says yes , of mcternan. we should introduce vat to schools. we have to private schools. we have equality into us. yet equality drummed into us. yet how can our society be considered equal when people with wealth can buy privilege and membership of the old boys network? you say give the education budget to the private sector all of our kids can sector so all of our kids can benefit . i sector so all of our kids can benefit. i don't sector so all of our kids can benefit . i don't quite get that benefit. i don't quite get that last line, but your first bit, i understand. and your point, joe giles says, no, do not do this enough already. pete says this is a disgraceful policy based on jealousy . starmer is busy trying jealousy. starmer is busy trying to level down lots of opinion. what's next, says suzanne, is labour are going to start adding even more things like extra vat or whatever to people who have to pay a private health care fees. all of this is a tax on ambition. there you go. you keep your thoughts com

great tony blair is john mcternan. joihave ank you much. great tony blair is john mcternan.joihave you on. why on earth'eat tony blair is john mcternan. joihave you on. why on earth ist to have you on. why on earth is keir starmer talking about brexit? just leave it alone . brexit? just leave it alone. >> he's not talking about brexit. >> he's talking about our relationship with the european union . union. >> and that's really important. 86% of people in the uk work in the private sector . we sell the private sector. we sell goods, we sell services , one of goods, we sell services, one of our biggest markets in the world by far is the european union . by far is the european union. therefore, where there is friction and it affects fishermen , it affects farmers, fishermen, it affects farmers, it affects food producers, it affects all exporters, musicians , all the creative industries where there is friction, it stops us selling goods , it stops stops us selling goods, it stops us selling services and therefore, if you take it away, we'll sell more , we'll create we'll sell mo

his former political secretary, john mcternan, just a moment. i'm mcternan, in just a moment. going be joined by lord theodore he theodore agnew. last year, he resigned as a treasury minister in house of lords over the in the house of lords over the government's lack action on government's lack of action on covid is the government covid fraud. is the government still here? in an still failing here? and in an exclusive interview, i'll be speaking to the legendary broadcaster alastair stewart, who will reveal about his who will reveal all about his decision to step back from gb news earlier this year. you won't to miss it, trust me. won't want to miss it, trust me. now, mcternan political now, john mcternan and political secretary joins me secretary to tony blair joins me now. speak to you this now. lovely to speak to you this morning, i want to morning, john. now i want to start perhaps with keir starmer's reshuffle and perhaps what you made of it. i mean, he's installed a number of blairites. he's sidelined his leadership rival, lisa nandy. is this him pandering to the right,

this now, john mcternan, political secretary to tony blair, joins me now. >> lovely to speak to you this john now, i want to start perhaps with keir starmer's reshuffle and perhaps what you made of it. i mean, he's installed a number of blairites. he's sidelined his leadership rival, lisa nandy. is this him pandering to the right, do you think, john, in a bid to win the next general election ? win the next general election? >> well, look, he's given a massive job to his deputy leader, angela rayner. she's now in charge of building planning and local government, regional inequality and on top of that, she's going to have to deal with devolution and the plans for a labour government devolving power to councils and more power to scotland and wales. so a gigantic responsibility for somebody who is from the soft left. he also kept ed miliband in place. so i think the idea is to shift to the right is to misunderstand it. it's a shift to promote those who are talented and those who performed well and people who've shone in their posts, whether in the cabinet or in in ministerial roles, have bee

but there is also quite another intra wing angle to this to and dissect all of this is john mcternan, john, i'm quite surprised you're not in the shadow cabinet because it does appear that there are quite a few former advisers to tony blair are . advisers to tony blair who are. >> yeah, look , had they phoned >> yeah, look, had they phoned up and said, we'd like to put you in the house of lords and then the shadow cabinet, i then into the shadow cabinet, i would had say yes to. would have had to say yes to. >> would and what about would have had to say yes to. >> wabout and what about would have had to say yes to. >> wabout the and what about would have had to say yes to. >> wabout the £350 what about would have had to say yes to. >> wabout the £350 aiat about would have had to say yes to. >> wabout the £350 a day? out would have had to say yes to. >> wabout the £350 a day? john what about the £350 a day? john would have made you say yes to that? >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> on the on the fantastic dining and dining room. >> no, look, i'm. >> there is a return of blair, right?

anyway, i can speak now with former political secretary to tony blair, john mcternan. u very much forjoining me. why are they having to clean up so much after sir keir? is it because they realise he's dropped a clanger ? clanger? >> no, it's because the tories and the tory press are distorting and telling lies about what keir said . about what keir said. >> keir said something really clear . he >> keir said something really clear. he said that the labour party will not and i agree with this and i think all the brexit voters agree with this. the labour party will not, not lower labour will not lower labour standards, will not lower food standards, will not lower environmental standards . and if environmental standards. and if you want to look at somebody who's trying align themselves you want to look at somebody who'the'ing align themselves you want to look at somebody who' the european gn themselves you want to look at somebody who' the european gn the|thisves with the european union this week, at look at keir week, look at look at keir starmer's oppo , the prime starme

robotic leader, with blair's former adviser with tony blair's former adviser john , and quoted in john mcternan saying angela a labour saying angela rayner is a labour boris. she shouldn't be under estimated. however an old clip of red redange has now gone viral, where she establishes herself as the labour party's biggest talent . or does she ? biggest talent. or does she? >> what's the cut in the capital gains tax they've had? >> they've, they've cut the capital gains tax. >> they did that. >> they did that. >> they did that. >> they did that as part of the coalition government. >> raised they >> they they raised the they raised the capital gains tax in the government. the coalition government. >> saying, >> well, what i'm saying, andrew, no, what andrew, and no, no, what you're saying wrong. andrew, and no, no, what you're saying would the capital >> what would the capital gains tax a labour government tax be under a labour government and how much would that raise compared now? compared to now? >> told andrew, >> well, i've told you, andrew, what priority about what our priority is. it's abou

robotic leader, with blair's former adviser with tony blair's former adviser john , and quoted in john mcternan saying angela a labour saying angela rayner is a labour boris. she shouldn't be under estimated. however an old clip of red redange has now gone viral, where she establishes herself as the labour party's biggest talent . or does she ? biggest talent. or does she? >> what's the cut in the capital gains tax they've had? >> they've, they've cut the capital gains tax. >> they did that. >> they did that. >> they did that. >> they did that as part of the coalition government. >> raised they >> they they raised the they raised the capital gains tax in the government. the coalition government. >> saying, >> well, what i'm saying, andrew, no, what andrew, and no, no, what you're saying wrong. andrew, and no, no, what you're saying would the capital >> what would the capital gains tax a labour government tax be under a labour government and how much would that raise compared now? compared to now? >> told andrew, >> well, i've told you, andrew, what priority about what our priority is. it's abou

i'm joined by john mcternan, who was blair's political secretary when he was prime minister. n, llook,hank very, very when he was prime minister. john, llook, what very, very when he was prime minister. john, llook, what do very, very when he was prime minister. john, llook, what do you y, very when he was prime minister. john, llook, what do you think' much. look, what do you think about then? as about this then? it looks as though maybe stacking your shadow cabinet of blair shadow cabinet full of blair rights actually lead rights might not actually lead to kind politics that to the kind of politics that people look i think tony people want. look i think tony blair's record speaks for itself i >> -- >> peace in northern ireland and minimum wage. >> peace in northern ireland and minimum wage . there's a whole minimum wage. there's a whole host of things i could go through that were really good. and the geopolitical importance of actually securing former commun states in eastern europe into the european union was absolutely critical. and we see that when you you stop paying att