like i'm your top he isn't there and of course he was our 1st guest now he's our 2nd guess after john mctiernan to be interviewed about decline early in 2011 so peter welcome to the show yeah thanks for having me and looking forward to chatting about the history of the project stuff i know you guys were there for some of it hopefully this article will bring some new insights to people who are there and who aren't there yet today here we are 20202021 everybody thinks they're a bit coin expert and o.j. but because he nearly didn't survive to meet these 2017. let's discuss the 1st war of 2011 at the time there were lots of bad press about stolen wallets and multi-state that sure could be the answer but 1st explained gavin andresen and hausa toshi had just handed off the lead of the project to him yeah sure so the story of the untold story of a.