historian msnbc contributor and author of the soul of america, the battle for our better angels, john meacham. john, i want to come to you in a second to -- for a little bit of conversation about exactly which angels are in charge right at the moment. i want to start with you, shawna thomas, because this week i remember sitting here a week ago sunday and wondering if this was going to be the kind of story that was actually going to breakthrough, that wasn't just going to be another handful of minutes of news cycle and those pictures galvanized the country. they galvanized both parties. and the president was forced to back down. >> yeah, and i think some of that is you still have people going down to the sites outside of el paso and down in mcallen. you had members of congress there yesterday. you were there apparently. >> briefly. >> briefly. >> yes. >> and also there was another event today that had basically activists, lawyers, immigration lawyers, that kind of thing. there are still people going down there. we had a correspondent there, santoro, one of the people there with someone running

august 18th, the mississippi book festival in jackson with john meacham, salman rushdie and others. for more information about upcoming book fairs and festivals and to watch our previous festival coverage click the book fairs tab on booktv.org. >> we want to introduce a first-time author, her book is called noncompliance, a known whistleblower exposes the giants of wall street, it comes out in october of this year. give us a brief synopsis of your career. >> i'm a lawyer by training and profession. i started working at law firms, that is what lawyers do and after a while i went into banking. one of the few fields that allowed women to progress. so i joined, and at some point the 2008 crisis hit and at that point in my career it was time to do a shift because you are getting older, getting up there and you are more senior and the opportunity came up to work at the bank of new york and i took it. >> reporter: what work do you do at the fed? >> i was a senior bank examiner and that is a fancy way of saying my job was to go into any bank the fed supervises and make sure they are complyi

. >> is there any other moment in time, john meacham, that matches what mimi just described, our country needing the supreme court as a check on a president who seems out of control? >> summer of 1974 when the supreme court ruled that nixon had to turnover the tapes which revealed the cover up which led to his resignation. it was a three-week drama. >> that's where we are? >> we've been there a long time. at least nixon had a sense of shame. that's potentially the difference. >> and no fox news. >> and no fox news. the speed is relative. let's not impute super powers to the opposition. got to have a vigorous conversation and we wish that reason played a bigger role in this battle against passion. but this is the end of the age of reagan on the supreme court. scalia, o'connor and now kennedy are gone. and in many ways it's the end of ronald reagan in other ways, too. the other thing i'd say is on the checks and balances point is that court, i believe nixon appointed four justices to that court including the chief justice and they ruled against him. and so what we have to continue to hope

conference freedom fest in las vegas and august 18th the mississippi breakfast of in jackson with john meacham, and others. for information on upcoming book fairs and festivals and watch previous festival coverage clickable cares tab on her website, book tv.org. .. >> welcome to the 34th annual chicago tribune printers row lit fest. to give a special thank you to our sponsors are today's program be broadcast live on c-span2 book tv. there will be time at the end of the session for question and answers . >> we have to use the to the si viewing audience with can hear your question. before we begin today's program, we ask that you silence your cell phones and turn off your camera flashes. please welcome our moderator rebekah,

, yesterday we saw some -- >> john meacham is here. >> supporters of donald trump melt like preciousa sun. >> that's terrible. >> because maxine waters said some things that i thought were very regrettable and she shouldn't have said, but you can look at that and of course you can say well, wait, is she really inciting violence because that's what a lot of people on twitter was saying that she was doing. look at those words and figure out if she was. and the president's response, be careful what you ask for was an incitement of violence but i do wonder how relatives and friends of mine will melt like the biggest most precious snow flake in the desert sun over something that someone might say against donald trump or against some of donald trump's people. and yet donald trump just out and out calls for violence. in that case, called for the shooting of hillary clinton by 2nd amendment people. he said well, you know, what can we do? maybe you 2nd amendment people can do something about it. and yet maxine is -- they -- i wrote a column about that when it happened. i didn't hear my friend

august 18th the mississippi breakfast of in jackson with john meacham, and others. for information on upcoming book fairs and festivals and watch previous festival coverage clickable cares tab on her website, book tv.org. .. >> welcome to the 34th annual chicago tribune printers row lit fest. to give a special thank you to our sponsors are today's program be broadcast live on c-span2 book tv. there will be time at the end of the session for question and answers . >> we have to use the to the si viewing audience with can hear your question. before we begin today's program, we ask that you silence your cell phones and turn off your camera flashes. please welcome our moderator rebekah, author of the fourth coming book "the great believers". [ applause ] >> hello and welcome. it's my pleasure to introduce arlene stein. she is a professor of sociology at rutgers university and director of the institute for research on women. she is the author of six books about gender, sexuality and american culture. among these is the stranger next door, which tells the story of a chris

and this, according to our friend the historian john meacham was the day the age of ronald reagan officially ended. this was the day supreme court justice anthony kennedy announced his retirement. and before we go on here, just a few things about anthony kennedy. he's been on the court for 30 years. he was reagan's third choice after the first two failed. in the end, reagan went with a northern caliifornian, a conservative, to be sure, but with a libertarian streak. classically trained at stanford, london school of economics and harvard law, kennedy employed an effortless intellect and a respect for liberty. he was never shocking. he was sometimes surprising, but he was mostly a highly reliable conservative. it should not be forgotten that during the supreme court term that just ended today, 14 cases were decided by a 5-4 vote. kennedy voted with the conservatives every time. and now comes the fight over what will be donald trump's second justice on the court. the republicans in the name of mitch mcconnell jammed up and held up obama's court choice to wait eight months for the presidential e

and this, according to our friend the historian john meacham was the day the age of ronald reagan officiallyhe day supreme court justice anthony kennedy announced his retirement. and before we go on here, just a few things about anthony kennedy. he's been on the court for 30 ye

. >> that's so interesting, because the other theme of books like john meacham's is that we are resilient and can get through this. thank you so much, susan page. watch more of craig melvin's interview coming up here on msnbc. >>> coming up, california dreaming. what tomorrow's primary in the golden state means for democrat's chance to retake the house. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. burning, of diabetic nerve pain these feet... ... made waves in high school... ...and built a career in construction. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rashves, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs, and feet. don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know ho

you know, i've been reading john meacham's book "the soul of america" and he suggests that we have tor angels. and hopefully we haven't crossed a rubicon here where it is too late. but, you know, there is that intransjens on the other side that there are people on the right that are rejoicing because these people are dead, because they're journalists. and somehow we have got to find a way to overcome that. that's just disgraceful. >> i hope that's not the case. i certainly haven't seen anyone rejoicing over this, this morning, but this is an environment where the media has been called by the highest office the enemy of the american people. andy -- >> sure, and that's what he does. he enables this kind of -- this kind of violence to take place. >> andy parker, thank you for joining me this morning. we all remember alison. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. attorneys say that undocumented toddlers, 3-year-olds, are being ordered to appear in court for these deportation proceedings. a lawyer who represented a 3-year-old in immigration court will join me next. brad's been looking forward

john meacham's look at american history and how they relate to today. hen the late zora hurston looks at the lives of atlantic slave trade followed by investor and venture capitalist john doour's thoughts on our tech companies use goals to achieve growth in measure what matters. after that, it's i'll be gone in the dark. the late true crime journalist firsthand account of her search for the golden state killer who has been charged with a dozen murders and 50 sexual assaults in california during the 1970s and 80s. and in fifth john mccain's reflections on his political career the restless wave. our look at the best selling books according to the los angeles times continues with mark manson's advice on leading a happier life and how psychodelic drugs are being used for medicinal purposes in how to change your mind. in 8th is investigative journal nist ronan farrow report on the state of the department on war on peace. and after that robyn the life and career of comedian robyn william and wrapping up our look at the non-fiction best seller list is clinical

and pulitzer prize winning his torreon a to historian john meacham.perspective. this is really, really big foreign policy news. it impacts the entire globe. how do you think the president did and how much can we believe given the patterns we know? >> well, first of all, with past his prologue we can't believe anything the north koreans tell us. you hear that from people who worked in the obama administration or the bush administration or the clinton administration or if you spoke with president carter who tried his best to bring peace to this region but every time the north koreans have lied it's hard to take anything out of this. this was one meeting. this is one meeting. even dennis rodman was able to fly over to singapore and get in front of cameras and talk about peace in the world. and because there was really no prelude to this, because there were no year long peace talks leading up to this, all we have is really, we're just actually seeing spring training here instead of the world series. if you want to go back, let's go back and talk about wha

topping the list is the soul of america, john meacham's look at critical moments in american historynd how they relate to today.and the late zora neale hurston called the life of one of the last known survivors of the atlantic slave trade in food followed by investor and venture capitalist john dewar's thoughts on how companies use thoughts to achieve growth and measure what matters. after that on in the dark, on true crime journalist michelle mcnamara's account of her search for the golden state killer charged with a dozen murders and 50 sexual assault in california during the 1970s and 80s and in, arizona senator john mccain's reflections on his political career, the rest will sway. our look at the best-selling books according to the los angeles times continues with mark manson's advice on leading a happier life and michael collins report on how psychedelic drugs are being used or medicinal purposes in how to change your mind. in eight is investigative journalist ronan farrow's report on the role of the state department in american diplomacy in the world today on war on peace. afte

so, john mn meacham, a lot of pe had blue check marks saying this is the bleakest moment of their liveso move forward with it. there are many things donald trump does that we criticize and talk about -- >> cause concern. >> cause great concern. they are violations of constitutional norms. just for our friends that are suggesting the same here, when you elect presidents, this is what happens and when hillary clinton didn't visit wisconsin and didn't visit michigan enough and when we saw a young woman yesterday with a campaign message that was more inspiring in three minutes than what hillary clinton gave us in two years, they can complain about internet this and that and the press did this and they should have done that. the fact is, hillary never had a message. she ran a horrible campaign. this is just -- this is the consequence of it. is it not? i mean, what donald trump did yesterday is what president's do. by the way, if mitch mcconnell said what should be constitutional norms of checks and balances, then democrats can try to do the same thing. >> well, yesterday was delivery day for

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