random house executive, john meachem. and senior staff writer at salon, brian boitler. also joining us, white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, let's talk about what has just happened. 3 1/2 hours of what i will say is exhaustive testimony from kathleen sebelius, defending the president, defending the affordable care act. the president is going to sort of follow that up later today, this afternoon. how concerned is the white house at this point? republicans seem to have moved sort of -- they have a hybrid strategy of attacking both the website and the quote/unquote president's failed promises that everybody could keep their health care. from 1600 pennsylvania avenue, what's the view? >> i think there's definitely frustration. there's obviously concern, as you have conversations with white house officials privately. they hope this can have a better context. they want this to be explained. because the website is down and there's little they can do to help provide the exact information for those americans who say their plans are being canceled or changed, they wa

we have john meachem. he's going to say grand things. harold ford, jr. to his plumber. we have a lot to get to. that was fantastic. did you see the guy's face? he couldn't because he had nothing to say. >> either do i. for once. >> this morning president obama will be in boston. i know you invited him. >> you want to go to the game? >> i didn't realize i was invited until now. >> not for the red sox, but to speak about the affordable care act, but kathleen sebelius is expected to blame contractors. >> the profiling period. caroline kennedy. >> saying they did not meet expectations. >> the private sector's false. who is in charge of that? >> however the oversight committee chairman released do you means showing one of the primary contractors had warned the government agency that there was not enough time to adequately test the website. yesterday the woman in charge of the obama care market place testified before congress and apologized for issues with the site and asked about when we will see people actually signed up and how many people signed up for cov

john meachem and sam stein are with us. sam is in washington. day two of the government shut down. afraid. everywhere was fighting. >> the twitter is explodinexplo. can you move the closed date to? we get lapped here. ready? one, two, three. day two! >> we have few answers on how to break it at this point. >> why don't we have 3d projections? >> that's the same graphic we used in the 96 shut down. we just kept it around. >> why don't we? have hans solo and princess leia. >> and tupac. >> and we don't we have that? >> talk to phil. >> complete your news experience. if you don't have hologram, how can you understand the news? right? am i right? don't you want tupac's hologram next to wolf? >> i would take tupac's shut down if that's what you are getting at. >> yes house republicans tried to pass a series of stop gap measures, band-aids that would only fund the va, national parks and the city of washington, d.c. they all failed to get the 2/3 needed to pass. flanked by people who are beneficiaries. >> i don't think they are band-aids. if you live in ush with wash. >> and work in those

with us on set, we have michael steele, cokie robbers, al hunt and in nashville, john meachem. >> yesterdayely discussion. of all time? >> forever or i exaggerated a little bit. this is going to ravage it. this is tomorrow. they said something because we have been around here. we knew how this was going to end before it started. right before the deadline on the debt ceiling, they fold. >> we knew how it was going to end, but that doesn't mean it should have happened. real people were affected. that's the part that nobody is really talking about. real single moms went through their savings in the last 17 days. a lot of people were affected by this while people on capitol hill made fools of themselves. that's really what they did. >> al, with all apologies from the president of the united states, they are going to make fools of themselves again in a couple of months. >> that's the question he was asked on the way out. >> i had to laugh. >> just when i thought i was out, we are right back in. they are going to pull him back in. i am pessimistic about prospects of a budget accord. if there is n