so when he moved into our neighborhood, i used to drive by his house going john meachum lives there. i'll be invited to have dinner with john. and sure enough, lo and behold, faith and i get an invitation to have doirn with john. we ended up at a dinner party and ended up late at night talking and hanging out. >> jan's library talking about history and current events. i fell in love with john and this is how it all happened. >> so let me ask you, john, in that first meeting when he came to your house, did you take the freezer off the the front porch? >> the good news was, because mcgraw likes to flop tires over for exercise, he could do that in the front yard. so it was like a gym and a house. >> usually that's what happens because he doesn't let me in. >> that's true. >> so he came over. did you guys started talking about it. how did it -- what was the genesis of the project? >> honestly, it hate to give tim credit. it was tim's idea. the soul of the country, the soul of america and it felt like this, mccarthy, wallace, all the way back to reconstruction. and tim said, have you ever