john mendeloff, any response for the caller? guest: and companies differ. some are pretty good at trying to comply with safety and health standards and protect their workers. and there are others who are not. for them, we need to have some pretty good enforcement system to try to make sure that lapsus like the ones the caller described do not happen. we do not have a very good inspector in the u.s. osha has fewer inspectors per 1000 workers then provinces in canada do, or most of europe. we are hard-pressed, i think, to do a sufficient job of inspecting the employers who are not telling the line. host: bill wiatrowski, what events lead to fatal work injuries -- these are bls figures. exposure to harmful substances or environment. 9% of injuries have fatal work injuries due to what the caller was talking about guest: -- talking about. guest: that is right. although it, these aren't just injuries. -- these are just injuries. the we do not look at illnesses. host: so that would not be included. guest: that would not be included. and and lives will have a long