our editor in christmas eve john micklethwait was able to sit down with zelenskyy in davos.listen. >> it's great if we will have talks, but they have to understand that the talks will not be in the center of the capital. they will not have relaxed time. yes. it's very important because i -- some allies said that yes, but it's ok. we can be the center of the city, no, no, we don't need such contingents. yes, with our people, of course. yeah. because this meant security and that's it. but it can be. it can be without the united states. i will explain to you why. even if some european friends think it will, no, it will not be. first of all, nobody will risk without united states. the second, that's what can divide nato, divide e.u. and u.s.a. that is a goal and dream of putin to divide this unity. >> you mentioned china. how important is china in these negotiations? i mean, china is the backer of russia. they seem to have an impact on things like putin not using nuclear weapons, those sort of things. can china push putin and do you have any contact with the chinese? >> i had so