john middleton, are you there? let's try one more time for mr. n. >> caller: hello. >> host: hi, middleton, tanks for joining us. why did you want to learn about the topic of gerrymander oring? >> guest: well, i've been watching various media including c-span over the last several weeks as the discussion of the deficit and the tea party came about, and i got a very clear impression from the media that gerrymandering was something new and nefarious and had been invented by the tea party, and that's how they got to be so powerful. but i didn't think that was the case. it's not new at all. and so i just thought it was very interesting, the media's current portrayal of gerrymandering and the actual history of it being so very different. >> host: how long have you been interest inside this topic? >> guest: oh, 50 years. i'm an american history major, so i've always been interested in it. >> host: talk a little bit then of the things you've learned either by watching this network or your own study, what have you learned about gerrymandering? what would