i know that john mulligan has a he showed to you. did he talk about this necessary culture of bartering within that prison? >> well, he did say there is some bartering and richard matt used to paint cards, greeting cards for other inmates as a way of needed a favor from them it was the skill he had was he could provide them with a greeting card or a painting and his friend said it was possible that richard matt had done portraits for some of the guards, you know, in order to get some of the painting supplies he needed because paint is allowed inside clinton correctional and you have to get it in as inmates don't have a lot of money to get the colors and that he was looking for so he said if there's bartering mostly to get paints or to try to, you know win some favor with other inmates. >> adam you were talking a bit earlier about the leads were up to 1,400. that is a lot of leads here and authorities are saying that police are looking into every single one of these leads. help break down what these leads consist of. anyone coming to

. >> reporter: john mulligan served time with richard matt at clinton. >> it's terribly dangerous. i've had physical confrontations with people over the years. >> reporter: just weeks before the escape there was a prison yard brawl here. prison sources tell nbc news officials requested a lockdown, but it was denied. jeff dumas retired in november after working at the prison for 22 years. >> if they would have done a facility frisk after the incident that they had in the yard if albany would have approved that there's no doubt in my mind that they would have found those two cells. >> reporter: dumas says guards no longer regularly patrol between walls, underneath buildings or on the very catwalks sweat and matt used to make their escape. >> those catwalks were part of a regular search always looked at but now we just don't have enough men. >> reporter: employees who used to work here say those budget cutbacks meant contractors would leave their tools in those catwalks just like the catwalks that the prosecutors used to escape from. we reached out to the department of corrections as

the first is john mulligan joining the national counterterrorism as deputy director and was associate director for the terrorism at the national security agencies. francis taylor is next. secretary for intelligence and analysis at the department of homeland security since april 2014 and before that was assistant sept of state for diplomatic security and office of foreign missions. and we have michael steinbach finally who was fdi director and is the assistant director of the counterterrorism division in july of 2014. prior to assuming his current position he served as deputy assistant director of the counterterrorism division in the acting section chief of the fbi's international operation center. i want to thank you for being here. the chair recognizes deputy director john mulligan to testify. >> thank you chairman mccaul ranking member thompson and members of the committee. i look forward to discuss the growing use of social media for national security. i am pleased to join my colleagues. we work together every day as part of the counterterrorism community. this morning i will speak

but first, john mulligan joined the national counterterrorism center in march 2015, as deputy directoreviously he served as associate deputy director for the counterterrorism, the national security agency. next, we have mr. francis taylor assumed his post as undersecretary for intelligence and analysis at the department of homeland security in april of 2014. previously he served as as assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security and director of the office of foreign missions. and finally, we have mr. michael steinbach who is appointed fbi director by james comby as the assistant director of the counterterrorism division in july of 2014. prior to assuming his current position, he serves as deputy, assistant director of the counterterrorism division, and the acting section chief of the fbi's international terrorism operations center. i want to thank all of you for being here today. the chair now recognizes deputy director mulligan to testify. >> thank you chairman mccaul, members of the committee i greatly appreciate the opportunity to discuss some of the recent events of interes

the first is john mulligan joining the national counterterrorism as deputy director and was associate director for the terrorism at the national security agencies. francis taylor is next. secretary for intelligence and analysis at the department of homeland security since april 2014 and before that was assistant sept of state for diplomatic security and office of foreign missions. and we have michael steinbach finally who was fdi director and is the assistant director of the counterterrorism division in july of 2014. prior to assuming his current position he served as deputy assistant director of the counterterrorism division in the acting section chief of the fbi's international operation center. i want to thank you for being here. the chair recognizes deputy director john mulligan to testify. >> thank you, chairman mccaul, ranking member thompson and members of the committee. i look forward to discuss the growing use of social media for national security. i am pleased to join my colleagues. we work together every day as part of the counterterrorism community. this morning i will spe

i want to go right now to john mulligan served time at clinton correct,al. a couple of of hours ago was killed by police. david sweat is now still on the run. but they believe that they are "on top of him." do you believe the two men would have been this close together? >> yeah i do. i think they would have teamed up and stayed together. kidding the considering their circumstances. >> does it surprise you richard matt went outen enin this kind of a shootout? >> no no not considering this last appeal was denied. he always expressed to me that he couldn't live like that. you know he said that if he lost his last appeal he would commit suicide and i guess this was another option for him. >> so you are not surprised. and david sweat, of course i know obviously was with richard matt. you know we understand he was in clinton correctional because he shot a law enforcement sheriff's deputy 22 times. i would imagine you think this could go down the same way? >> well i don't know david sweat. i could only speculate on that. but i do know richard matt. i have seen david

john mulligan the deputy director of national counter terror center.mastering multiple social media tools in order to advance its objectives. he cited the recent attack in texas where gunman opened fire at a cartoon contest featuring drawings of the prophet mohammed. two suspected terrorists were gunned down by police. >> this event highlights the growing threat our nation faces from a new generation of terrorists often operating from a far who use social media to find light minded associates win our borders who can be motivateed to violence attacking with little or no warning. >> mulligan says this year isis published more than 1700 pieces of terrorist messageing and that includes videos, pictures and online magazines. >>> a science teacher at a tampa high school gets so frustrated with students using their cell phones during class that he jams them but now the school district is calling him out because it's not only against school policy, it's illegal. fox's ken suarez with the story. >> reporter: cell phones, kids bring them and use them in school a