the role of the vice president has evolved to an enormous degree since i believe it was john nance garner who said it wasn't worth a warm bucket of spit, right? it's become an operational role that's a good thing. but that means the president has trust. so i think those two things, one, can you say that this person is prepared to be president? so then, if you look at the two names that you said, rob portman i think is someone who you can certainly present to the american people as someone has served in government, who has an understanding of the fiscal issues, who clearly has been through enough vetting processes. to play off what steve said, g about national issues. with senator rubio who i don't know his record as well, no, you would probably want to do some i think at the end of the day, decision, it's going to be republican nominee's decision and given the fact that the republican nominee is mitt romney, the guess is that he probably does want to pick someone who offers him regional diversity and who offers something to fill up his governing resume, something he . i would also add, th