and what can we expect in the upcoming recall elections for some answers on this i'm joined by john nichols russian correspondent with the nation magazine john welcome. it's great to be with you tom a thank you very much what's behind this move against craft beers well i know it sounds pretty bizarre that you know all of these struggles over everything from collective bargaining to local democracy to voting rights we've got a crowd here fight in fact that matter is that governor walker has established pay to play politics in wisconsin and the big brewers are paid to basically erect a ceiling on top of small purse and basic concept here is that if you're going to you know sell a few bottles out of a group you could probably do ok but if you do gallop a craft beer that starts to get popular they want to make sure that you can't compete and you can set up your own distribution network and really get in again and effectively what this means is they're creating the perfect situation for the mega breweries it means that if the little guys starts to take off they can prevent him from getting too b

governor walker's agenda and those in wisconsin who are fighting against it for more i'm joined by john nichols washington correspondent of the nation magazine lives in madison wisconsin and democratic strategist erick knew who grew up in was because you're from wisconsin your family are going about here but my home my family is out there and throw out there i started my work and politics out and now the roll over was constant and john welcome great to have you with us good to be it's so john let me start with you what's a recap this story idea i touched on in the setup but what's the deal here choky one chief one supreme court justice choking another. absolutely it's a pretty remarkable story and of course this whole wisconsin controversy has been remarkable from the start we've had koch brothers phone calls and and secret meetings and scandals and fights and invasions so i guess a strange elation attempt had become eventually what happened who knows about it two weeks ago as justice prosser who was as you suggest governor walker's mentor in the legislature as justice process was preparing to

two years should be to president obama and term joining me now to talk more about this issue is john nichols washington correspondent with the nation magazine john welcome it's great to be with you to great to have you are the republicans trying to crash the economy some of them are some aren't look the republican party is probably the most divided political party we've seen in modern times you just saw it play out in remarkable ways on the votes on afghanistan in the patriot act where john boehner was scrambling to hold barack obama's butt out of the fire and so the fact all of his own and his own he was afraid the deficit is right resolution actually passed and so you have to understand this republican party is not a disciplined party they were very disciplined going into the two thousand and ten election now they're polling in a lot of different directions and surely yes i can guarantee you there's a group of republicans who would gladly get together and say anything we can do to defeat barack obama anything and that includes stirring up economic trouble but we have to understand there ar