juan: i want to bring in john nichols, political writer for the nation. with this latest situation the president's discussion, phone conversation with the president of ukraine apparently has become a turning point for nancy pelosi and other democrats on whether to begin the impeachment inquiry. what is your assessment of this? there are those ththat are sayig the american president is in constant conversation with leaders of other countries, threatening them if they do not do it the u.s. wants. and trump rebuttal about the whole issue of hunter biden having been so heavily involved in ukraine at the time that joe biden was vice president and also attempted to influence the ukrainian government? >> very good question, juan. i am honored to be on with congressman greenen. at the heart of your question is the answer. presidents are often on the phone yelling at other leaders, trying to get what america wants, what the u.s. wants. that is not what is at stake here. what is at stake here is the question of whether donald trump got on the phone trying to get wh

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i want to bring in john nichols, national affairs correspondent for "the nation" magazine, and back with former prosecutor maya wiley. john, i turn to you as someone who's followed many of these things with an eye to the facts and not the way washington usually works. how do you think these facts are playing out in the real world with real people getting some sense, we just showed some of the clips that maybe this time is different? >> i think this time is different. and one of the things that i think a lot of people in the trump circle dent quite understand, because many of theme are frankly very inexperienced with washington, and frankly unexperienced with a lot of governing issues, that is that impeachment is different. people do understand it. if they're of a certain age, they may even remember nixon. if they're a bit younger, they will remember obviously clinton. and at the very least, they really did learn it in their civics class. i can only tell you that i have a 15-year-old daughter who is in ap civics right now, and impeachment is a really big part of what folks learn of the co

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speaking on radio 4's sunday programme cardinal vincent nichols, said that the events in the commons last week had provoked an unambiguous response. (pres)john joins me now with more this is the second intervention by british christians in a few days about tone and language and the breadth of the date. on friday the group church of england bishops wrote a public letter saying that the tone had become unacceptable and seeing the people inside and outside parliament should not denigrate or patronise each other are the views of fellow citizens that the cardinal has gone even further on this interview radio 4. he is also the westminster archbishop and does not get involved in social and political debate of this nature but it's been pretty blunt about what he sees as a dangerous threat went to some of the parliamentary language we have heard. referring to that very noisy ill tempered debate on wednesday in parliament between mps and the primers that were even some mps themselves call for moderation of language, he said the reaction to that had been unambiguous and this wasn't the kind of leadership we need and that kind of language can give encou

john bolton. joining us is hans nichols.from the president of the united states. we saw the tweets from the secretary of state. i understand there was a phone call between "the crown" prince of saudi arabia and the president of the united states. >> reporter: what's remarkable about this is the speed with which these statements making this allegation came out. it was just a couple hours after this full scope of this attack had come in. mike pompeo went to twitter and clearly alleged and made the allegation that iran was behind this. not the houthis, who claimed credit for it. so we have an allegation. we don't necessarily have evidence. in the past, when the u.s. has been trying to make the case that iran has been behind things, they have brought reporters out to say the defense logistics agency, scud missiles, they will get down to the serial numbers and say this was clearly made in iran. that usually takes five to six weeks. that evidence isn't always overwhelming. in that case when the yemenese, houthis sent missiles into

speaking on radio 4's sunday programme cardinal vincent nichols, said that the events in the commons last week had provoked an unambiguous response. johnore. these remarks are pretty specific. he says it is not the kind of leadership we need, not the kind of, and is the kind of language that can encourage extremist views and actions. pretty blunt and this is the second intervention in 2—3 days, because on friday, senior church of england bishops wrote an open letter talking about the tone and style of language being used around the brexit debate. he said the tone had been come unacceptable and we should not denigrate or patronise people on the opposite side of the political spectrum. cardinal vincent nichols has gone even further, talking on radio for this morning, he said that it, he had been pretty blunt in the threat she thinks have been posed by some of this language. i am referring to this debate in parliament, the very bad—tempered debate between mps and boris johnson, where some mps themselves call for moderation of the language. cardinal vincent nichols says the reaction to that had been unambiguous and that wasn't the kind of

radio 4's sunday programme cardinal vincent nichols, said that the events in the commons last week had provoked an unambiguous response. our correspondent, johncatholic church normally tries to stay out of the political sphere. this is the second intervention into oi’ this is the second intervention into or three days by senior christians. on friday, senior church of england bishops wrote an open letter talking about the tone and style of language being used around the brexit debate. they said that the tone had actually become unacceptable and that we should not denigrate or patronise people on the opposite side of the political spectrum. vincent nichols, the leader of catholics in england and wales, has gone even further, talking on radio for this morning. he said that, he had been pretty blunt in terms of the threats he thinks are posed by some of this language. i am thinks are posed by some of this language. iam referring thinks are posed by some of this language. i am referring to the debate in parliament, you remember, very bad—tempered debate between mps and boris johnson. very bad—tempered debate between mps and borisjohnson. where som

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nichols, to start us off. >>> joining me now is jonathan allen, political recorder with nbc news digital, and reporter with yahoo news, katia tubman. john, i want to start with you. let's put this up. you have the ukrainian call, where the president asks for a favor. now, compare that to this may 2017 conversation. what do you take from that in comparison, and what did we learn? >> good morning, frances. there's tremendous parallel here. the president in both of these cases is in a situation where he obviously is not bothered by, not concerned about, according to the "washington post" reporting in the one case, and the second case according to the transcript the president has put out himself, not concerned about foreign election interference. in one case, the russians interfering in the 2016 election to help him. the second case, getting ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election to help him. so this is a problem for the president's narrative about 2016, of course. more importantly for the impeachment process going forward, a problem for him with regard to the question of whether he's using his powers as president to benefit himself pers

nichols at the white house. joining me, gabby orr with politico and john harwood, editor at large. gabby, what do you think about the timing of this announcement, anything to it. >> i think hans kind of hit the nail on the head here. it is kind of suspicious, given how much pushback president trump got last weekend over this invite of the taliban to negotiate with him at camp david. even his most ardent supporters were surprised that that invitation was ever extended in the first place. and so, i think that the white house is trying to do some type of damage control here by announcing this development today. >> yeah. i'm going to ask you the same question about timing but add this as well, john, because the state department described hans as an emerging al qaeda leader who has threatened attacks against the u.s. so, okay, timing here. what do you think? >> well, i think gabby and hans are both right, the president's been getting a lot of pushback for the idea that on the anniversary of 9/11, or around the anniversary of 9/11, he would have taliban leaders to camp david. he just rep

nichols from the white house. thank you for that. joining me now, california representative john garamendi. i know you heard the strong reaction from joe biden. in fact, we saw you through the camera nodding your head to that. what is your take to his response? >> he's doing exactly what should be done and what congress should also be doing. we need to push back on this president. this president's conduct is absolutely outrageous, most of it is illegal. quite probablied it engage in extort i extorting the new president, selenski, of ukraine, eight times. he did -- you notice the president didn't deny that he had said those things. we want the tapes. we want the information. we want to end the stone-calling that has gone on, and biden is absolutely correct to go right back at this president, punch back at him, because it is, in fact, the president of the united states that is outrageous in his activities. he is a serious abuser, just as the vice president said. >> so, when we heard the president say in his own words, when queried, it doesn't matter what i discuss, i imagine you probably vehe

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nichols. trump said he fired bolton. bolton said he resigned. what do these dueling narratives tell us. >> reporter: they tell us this story is not over. we may be hearing from john bolton his version of events. of all that we've heard from the cabinet, very few have given candid exit interviews on why 93 left. we may get that from bolton. just to recap the last three hours. about three hours ago the president had that bombshell tweet on twitter. firing his national security adviser. and then the national security adviser saying i resigned myself. i told the president i'd sleep on it. there were multiple disagreements, there was a whole range of issues they weren't on the same page on. we know most recently they clashed on this idea of whether or not you should invite the taliban to camp david. and the overall strategy of trying to pursue a peace deal with the taliban. i think one indication of where this might end up going is this idea someone close to bolton saying in bolton's 17 months as national security adviser, the president didn't make any bad deals. and i think as we all acknowledge, the president has a lot of foreign policy decisions that haven't been r

john bolton. he will do that next week, he said. and he is likely to solicit a range of views to help him narrow down his range of choices. >> hans nichols at the white house. thank you. >>> let's bring in nbc political analyst, jake sherman. good morning. >> good morning, peter. >> as you know, congress has been back for a week now, senators manchin and toomey pressing the president to get him to support background checks. there's new reporting that the talks may be grinding to a halt. what do you know and how likely is it that anything happens here? >> i think the odds remain slim. we know the politics. we know the issue set. and the president has not said anything in either direction for some time now. that trio of senators, chris murphy from connecticut, joe manchin and pat toomey, they expected an answer from the president this week. they didn't get one and they were left twisting in the wind, which is difficult. this is not a complicated issue. it's a charged issue. they want to expand background checks. that issue has been in front of the president for a very long time. the politics have been constant for a long time. >> we were s